LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted February 10, 2009 ...to quote Bon Jovi, "it's all the same, only the names have changed..." ...whether it's NBC/VS/FOX/ABC/ESPN, it's always about someone else OTHER than the Detroit Red Wings! Are the Wings the Al Queda of the NHL? Are we the enimies no matter who was responsible for 9/11 or how many Stanley Cup/Presidents Trophies/Norris/Selke's/Bing/Conn Smythe are within the organization? Gimme A Break! ...if it's not Gretzky in the 80's, or Lindros in the 90's, Roy throughout his career, Pronger recently or Kathy Lee Crosby now, no matter who the Wings are eliminating from the playoffs, the Networks just will not focus on who the best players are or which team has been the most consistant and winningest and best throughout the 1990's and so far in the 2000's... ...Of course that is the power of the media, most (North) American's will believe anything they hear on TV even though they are seeing something completely different. If the media tells you that a man living in cave orchastrated the single worst attack on the USA since Pearl Harbor, then they will believe you. If NBC tells you that Cindy "Kathy Lee" Crosby is the best player in the NHL, even though, like 9/11, they can see right in front of their eyes that Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Hossa are far superior and more complete hockey players than Crosby can ever dream to be (maybe when he grows up, but not now.) Heck, most "experts" agree Ovechkin is FAR superior to Crosby in every aspect of the game, so why aren't the blowing him? Of course if the Wings face the Caps in the Finals, they will be, but at least Ovechkin is worthy of it, more so than Crosby. Datsyuk alone is so much better than Crosby and he proves it each time they play. Even a NON-Wings fan (of course they cannot be a Pens fan) would rank Datsyuk ahead of Crosby and possibly #2 behind the electricity of Ovechkin. But that media, those spin-masters that brain-wash the viewing public wants you to believe it was a man in a cave and that snot nose, crybaby is the best player in the NHL and nobody else compares... ...I am not one to wish injury on anyone at anytime, but just as Lindros was reaching his invincible status given to him by the folks that run the NHL, he was clocked 7 or 8 times a lost his marbles. (of course, the blanket party he received in Philly because he was boinking Rod Brind'Amours old lady didn't help his concussions to much either.) Give Kathy Lee a few mega hits at center ice or with his head down after a pass and the NHL will have to find someone else to call the prodical son. And I can guarantee he won't play in a Winged Wheel, yet he'll get elimated more than once by those same Wheelers! ...I don't claim to know who exactly was responsible for 9/11, I have my beliefs and it doesn't involve a man in a cave, as the media tells me I should believe. I also don't claim to know who the #1 player in the NHL is, I have my beliefs there as well, but again although the media tells me what I should believe, it does NOT involve a boy wearing a Penguin sweater, much like the one his gramma knitted him when he was 10.(<- I made that part up) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted February 10, 2009 9/11 conspiracy theories and the NHL go together like... like... uhm.... Coffee and.... sand? I guess that's good enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlakChamber 8 Report post Posted February 10, 2009 Call your doctor, they need to up the dosage of your meds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted February 10, 2009 I have to agree with you about how silly the media is and the bulls*** they perpetuate, but I doubt the 9/11 comparison to the Red Wings is going to draw many to your side in this case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted February 10, 2009 ...to quote Bon Jovi, "it's all the same, only the names have changed..." ...whether it's NBC/VS/FOX/ABC/ESPN, it's always about someone else OTHER than the Detroit Red Wings! Are the Wings the Al Queda of the NHL? Are we the enimies no matter who was responsible for 9/11 or how many Stanley Cup/Presidents Trophies/Norris/Selke's/Bing/Conn Smythe are within the organization? Gimme A Break! ...if it's not Gretzky in the 80's, or Lindros in the 90's, Roy throughout his career, Pronger recently or Kathy Lee Crosby now, no matter who the Wings are eliminating from the playoffs, the Networks just will not focus on who the best players are or which team has been the most consistant and winningest and best throughout the 1990's and so far in the 2000's... ...Of course that is the power of the media, most (North) American's will believe anything they hear on TV even though they are seeing something completely different. If the media tells you that a man living in cave orchastrated the single worst attack on the USA since Pearl Harbor, then they will believe you. If NBC tells you that Cindy "Kathy Lee" Crosby is the best player in the NHL, even though, like 9/11, they can see right in front of their eyes that Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Hossa are far superior and more complete hockey players than Crosby can ever dream to be (maybe when he grows up, but not now.) Heck, most "experts" agree Ovechkin is FAR superior to Crosby in every aspect of the game, so why aren't the blowing him? Of course if the Wings face the Caps in the Finals, they will be, but at least Ovechkin is worthy of it, more so than Crosby. Datsyuk alone is so much better than Crosby and he proves it each time they play. Even a NON-Wings fan (of course they cannot be a Pens fan) would rank Datsyuk ahead of Crosby and possibly #2 behind the electricity of Ovechkin. But that media, those spin-masters that brain-wash the viewing public wants you to believe it was a man in a cave and that snot nose, crybaby is the best player in the NHL and nobody else compares... ...I am not one to wish injury on anyone at anytime, but just as Lindros was reaching his invincible status given to him by the folks that run the NHL, he was clocked 7 or 8 times a lost his marbles. (of course, the blanket party he received in Philly because he was boinking Rod Brind'Amours old lady didn't help his concussions to much either.) Give Kathy Lee a few mega hits at center ice or with his head down after a pass and the NHL will have to find someone else to call the prodical son. And I can guarantee he won't play in a Winged Wheel, yet he'll get elimated more than once by those same Wheelers! ...I don't claim to know who exactly was responsible for 9/11, I have my beliefs and it doesn't involve a man in a cave, as the media tells me I should believe. I also don't claim to know who the #1 player in the NHL is, I have my beliefs there as well, but again although the media tells me what I should believe, it does NOT involve a boy wearing a Penguin sweater, much like the one his gramma knitted him when he was 10.(<- I made that part up) You are an angry young man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted February 10, 2009 9/11 conspiracy theories and the NHL go together like... like... uhm.... Coffee and.... sand? I guess that's good enough. ...it was more of a comparison on how the media tries to brainwash viewers in to believing someting even though they are seing something different. I could've used anything as an example. I simply chose the biggest media spin job of the modern age. Although you cannot argue the NHL attempts at naming the "Next One" and the extensive media hype machine that tries to drive into your head like a wedge in a log. Even though most fans can see the Datsyuk far outplays Crosby everytime they play against each other, the NHL still tells you that Crosby is the best, not only by running constant promo's and commercials showing the LOSING team in the Cup final, highlight Crosby scoring the first goal Pitt manage to score against us in the series, NOT UNTIL GAME 3 BTW, but not once do they show LIdstrom lifting the Cup, Zetterberg holding the Conn Smythe or the Wings celebrating... ...just a quick question. The commercial on VS. that I am refering to shows Crosby celebrating a goal, but which goal (if you were the NHL) would you put on a commercial to accent to skill of one of your best players, that goal, or Pavel's goal on Turco? How about most any of Pav's breakaway goals? I am just saying, even though you are seeing something in plane sight, the media tells you that you are seeing this way, and no matter how much better Datsyuk looks than Crosby, Crosby is STILL the best in the NHL right now... ...as was Lindros and Roy (good argument here, but he wasn't the invincible man that touted in game 7 2002) and Pronger, yatta, yatta. The day the networks drool all over ANY Detroit Red Wings, is the day I believe 100% of what my Government is telling me! And that day will NEVER come... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted February 10, 2009 ...it was more of a comparison on how the media tries to brainwash viewers in to believing someting even though they are seing something different. I could've used anything as an example. I simply chose the biggest media spin job of the modern age. Although you cannot argue the NHL attempts at naming the "Next One" and the extensive media hype machine that tries to drive into your head like a wedge in a log. Even though most fans can see the Datsyuk far outplays Crosby everytime they play against each other, the NHL still tells you that Crosby is the best, not only by running constant promo's and commercials showing the LOSING team in the Cup final, highlight Crosby scoring the first goal Pitt manage to score against us in the series, NOT UNTIL GAME 3 BTW, but not once do they show LIdstrom lifting the Cup, Zetterberg holding the Conn Smythe or the Wings celebrating... ...just a quick question. The commercial on VS. that I am refering to shows Crosby celebrating a goal, but which goal (if you were the NHL) would you put on a commercial to accent to skill of one of your best players, that goal, or Pavel's goal on Turco? How about most any of Pav's breakaway goals? I am just saying, even though you are seeing something in plane sight, the media tells you that you are seeing this way, and no matter how much better Datsyuk looks than Crosby, Crosby is STILL the best in the NHL right now... ...as was Lindros and Roy (good argument here, but he wasn't the invincible man that touted in game 7 2002) and Pronger, yatta, yatta. The day the networks drool all over ANY Detroit Red Wings, is the day I believe 100% of what my Government is telling me! And that day will NEVER come... Not to be argumentative... but why do you care so much? We're happy. The players are happy. Who cares who gets more face time on TV? Why is it so important to you that certain Wings get 'credit'? Just wondering... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted February 10, 2009 ...it was more of a comparison on how the media tries to brainwash viewers in to believing someting even though they are seing something different. I could've used anything as an example. I simply chose the biggest media spin job of the modern age. Right, I'm sure you'll come to understand why that was a poor choice if you intend for your thread to be taken seriously. And yeah yeah, the NHL hypes Crosby and the Pens, big deal. If you know and watch the game than you can come to your own conclusions on it, if you don't than it doesn't really matter who you think is the best anyways. These essays are unnecessary, they make you sound like a bigger crybaby than Sid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted February 10, 2009 (edited) Not to be argumentative... but why do you care so much? We're happy. The players are happy. Who cares who gets more face time on TV? Why is it so important to you that certain Wings get 'credit'? Just wondering... ...don't know, maybe I am just tired of Detroit getting slighted every chance (and I don't mean just the Wings, the entire area as well.) Coming from a city, you have a lot of pride, and everytime you turn around you are getting slapped somehow, someway. Maybe with all the negativity, something, anything, that sheds even a little positive light on my home town, whether it be a hockey player FINALLY being recognized for what he is, or whether it be other media markets saying someting good about this part of Michigan. I grew up when Yzerman was getting slighted left and right, and it just seems that everything that remotely gives a highlight to Detroit, the media tries to overshadow it with something that is far inferior. No, essays are not necessary, but neither are 900 threads on the same goaltending and Franzen subjects. This was a different subject, someting that may generate opinions other than "Trade Filpulla" "Sign Hossa" "Osgood is or is not God." If you don't think the subject is worth replying to, then don't, but don't come and try to knock someone down because your brainwashed by the media and think just because someone has an opinion other than yours, you can make fun. Just turn the channel or lift up the needle if you don't want to hear it... ...that last part wasn't aimed toward you Broken 16, sorry if it seemed that way... Edited February 10, 2009 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted February 10, 2009 No, essays are not necessary, but neither are 900 threads on the same goaltending and Franzen subjects. This was a different subject, someting that may generate opinions other than "Trade Filpulla" "Sign Hossa" "Osgood is or is not God." Trust me, there's enough room under my umbrella of "stupid topics" to fit those in, too. As it stands, "the media loves Crosby" is far from a new and exciting topic. If you don't think the subject is worth replying to, then don't, but don't come and try to knock someone down because your brainwashed by the media and think just because someone has an opinion other than yours, you make fun. Brainwashed? You're killin' me with that stuff. Anyways, should I have come in here to nod my head in agreement with you? I'll pass on that. You come in here crying about how Detroit doesn't get enough love from the NHL. Maybe instead of promoting Crosby and Malkin they should just cling onto Hank and Pavel? Then we're right back where we started. The NBAs got LeBron, the NFLs got Peyton, the NHLs got Crosby. That's who they've attached themselves to. And they're all good players. I bet Washington fans would love for there to be a million AO commercials, Jersey fans would think that's a load of s*** and cry out for Brodeur love, and Calgary supporters would roll their eyes because they know Jarome is the league's true superstar. You can't have it every which way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted February 10, 2009 (edited) Trust me, there's enough room under my umbrella of "stupid topics" to fit those in, too. As it stands, "the media loves Crosby" is far from a new and exciting topic. Brainwashed? You're killin' me with that stuff. Anyways, should I have come in here to nod my head in agreement with you? I'll pass on that. You come in here crying about how Detroit doesn't get enough love from the NHL. Maybe instead of promoting Crosby and Malkin they should just cling onto Hank and Pavel? Then we're right back where we started. The NBAs got LeBron, the NFLs got Peyton, the NHLs got Crosby. That's who they've attached themselves to. And they're all good players. I bet Washington fans would love for there to be a million AO commercials, Jersey fans would think that's a load of s*** and cry out for Brodeur love, and Calgary supporters would roll their eyes because they know Jarome is the league's true superstar. You can't have it every which way. I agree, and you are right about each town thinking their superstar is the best. But in a non homer position, I do think Overchkin is far better than Crosby (as I thought Mario was better than Wayne) and would rather see him on the commercials than Crosby. On a side note though, I never thought Lindros was better than Fedorov during the 90's, though. Your points are well taken and respected, just a little tired of all the snuffs from the media, sports-wise and city-wise (of course Kwame-gate didn't help too much in that aspect!) Edited February 10, 2009 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted February 10, 2009 (edited) I think this topic falls under the 'careful what you wish for' category. Think about it... do you REALLY want Pav or Z getting as much national attention as Crosby? One could argue that the pressure placed on him has seriously stunted his development. I mean, look how wonderfully Pavs and Z have blossomed before our eyes. Has Crosby made such significant strides? I don't think so. He doesn't look all that different from the day he entered the league. Granted, I don't see him play 82 games a year, but still. Malkin on the other hand... Thank God Crosby is the media darling. That just means that our guys can relax and have fun. I'm pretty sure being the media darling isn't all it's cracked up to be. Edited February 10, 2009 by Broken 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozen-Man 144 Report post Posted February 10, 2009 ...to quote Bon Jovi, "it's all the same, only the names have changed..." ...whether it's NBC/VS/FOX/ABC/ESPN, it's always about someone else OTHER than the Detroit Red Wings! Are the Wings the Al Queda of the NHL? Are we the enimies no matter who was responsible for 9/11 or how many Stanley Cup/Presidents Trophies/Norris/Selke's/Bing/Conn Smythe are within the organization? Gimme A Break! ...if it's not Gretzky in the 80's, or Lindros in the 90's, Roy throughout his career, Pronger recently or Kathy Lee Crosby now, no matter who the Wings are eliminating from the playoffs, the Networks just will not focus on who the best players are or which team has been the most consistant and winningest and best throughout the 1990's and so far in the 2000's... ...Of course that is the power of the media, most (North) American's will believe anything they hear on TV even though they are seeing something completely different. If the media tells you that a man living in cave orchastrated the single worst attack on the USA since Pearl Harbor, then they will believe you. If NBC tells you that Cindy "Kathy Lee" Crosby is the best player in the NHL, even though, like 9/11, they can see right in front of their eyes that Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Hossa are far superior and more complete hockey players than Crosby can ever dream to be (maybe when he grows up, but not now.) Heck, most "experts" agree Ovechkin is FAR superior to Crosby in every aspect of the game, so why aren't the blowing him? Of course if the Wings face the Caps in the Finals, they will be, but at least Ovechkin is worthy of it, more so than Crosby. Datsyuk alone is so much better than Crosby and he proves it each time they play. Even a NON-Wings fan (of course they cannot be a Pens fan) would rank Datsyuk ahead of Crosby and possibly #2 behind the electricity of Ovechkin. But that media, those spin-masters that brain-wash the viewing public wants you to believe it was a man in a cave and that snot nose, crybaby is the best player in the NHL and nobody else compares... ...I am not one to wish injury on anyone at anytime, but just as Lindros was reaching his invincible status given to him by the folks that run the NHL, he was clocked 7 or 8 times a lost his marbles. (of course, the blanket party he received in Philly because he was boinking Rod Brind'Amours old lady didn't help his concussions to much either.) Give Kathy Lee a few mega hits at center ice or with his head down after a pass and the NHL will have to find someone else to call the prodical son. And I can guarantee he won't play in a Winged Wheel, yet he'll get elimated more than once by those same Wheelers! ...I don't claim to know who exactly was responsible for 9/11, I have my beliefs and it doesn't involve a man in a cave, as the media tells me I should believe. I also don't claim to know who the #1 player in the NHL is, I have my beliefs there as well, but again although the media tells me what I should believe, it does NOT involve a boy wearing a Penguin sweater, much like the one his gramma knitted him when he was 10.(<- I made that part up) WOW . . . :blink: . . . JUST WOW IS ALL THAT I CAN SAY. Your nuttier than you were after the trade deadline last year. Seriously, who cares how many commercials have Crosby in them - I sure wouldn't think someone without a Red Wings card would care. Your points are well taken and respected, just a little tired of all the snuffs from the media, sports-wise and city-wise (of course Kwame-gate didn't help too much in that aspect!) You've said more crap about this team and organization than any media person I've ever heard. Here are a few examples from last year when you "officially turned in your Red Wings card" whatever that is: "that doesn't mean I cannot come on this forum and enjoy all you guys sucking on the teet of Ken Holland and then laughing when the Wings lose their #1 seed and then lose in the first round (swept prolly.) Just because I am not blinded by the Ken Holland light doesn't mean I cannot comment on this forum..." “...we trust this guy? He's brought us DISAPPOINTMENT every year!!! ...if he thinks that just landing Hossa will give this team a Cup he's an bigger idiot than I thought! He hasn't even landed Hossa yet!!!! ...Fedorov, Foote, Salei all players we could have gotten EASILY and he lets them go! I know what he's gonna say, "We were'nt prepared to give up what they were asking." BULLs***! If you f*cking think that your team is better off holding on the crap like Hudler and Filuplla and Sammy and whoever else isn't on the first line, then you need to check into a psycho ward, bastard!!! ...EVERY F*CKING YEAR HE DOES THIS TO US!!! We need a top6 scorer we need a big defensman, we need this, we need that!!! What do you we get? DARREN F*CKING MCCARTY!!!!!! F*CK YOU! ...this team will end up in the 3rd seed of the playoffs and lose in the first round!!! When the F*CK are we gonna stop believing that this guy is a good GM!?!?!? ...same s*** is gonna happen on draft day and then on July 1st! This guy has to go, I am officially handing in my Red Wings card, this team is doomed as long as Holland is in charge... This is my favorite though: "...Avs will make the playoffs, prolly play us in the first round and whoop the s*** out of us!" And a few more - just for humor's sake: "Holland is an idiot!” "Damn whoever it was who put themselves ahead of the team by telling Holland to NOT get Fedorov! Kizmit is a son-of-a-b*tch! To whoever cried to momma about Fedorov, you and your team deserves everything you get. Way to lose the last 9 out 10! Say bye bye to that #1 and #2 seed this season! Start booking your tee times! Sure Fedorov may not have made a difference tonight because we actually got some scoring, but like I said Kizmit is a powerful force and just because there was one or two individuals (Babcock) who put themselves ahead of the TEAM, you have doomed your club! Enjoy another 42 years without the Cup!!!! (at least) ...yes Crymson, my card is still turned in... ...Holland sucks and so does his staff... ..oh wait McCarty is the Messiah, all is good... ” “...for some reason there are a lot of fans on here today that have meaningless opinions aren't there? I am not the only one pissed. Open the eyes and stop sucking Wings. They will lose the #1 seed and they will be out in the 1st and I will continue to post on here about how much of an idiot Holland and this organization is... This is the begining of a downward spiral. Lets drafts some more soft Euro's and lets sign not do a thing on July 1st... That has been Holland for the past 2 to 3 years, and a lot of us are tired of it. You can continue to enjoy your awesome regualr season team, but I want Cups wins. I'd rather finish 4th or 5th and win the Cup instead of 1st or 2nd and lose in the 1st round...” “...which part of that post says that I support Holland and the Wings upper brass still? They are ALL assess! We all know that Fedorov would have helped our secondary scoring, and so did some of them but not everyone was on board with address the secondary scoring? Whomever that was, whether it was Jim Nill, Develllano, Holland or even Gods gift to Homerism Steve Yzerman THEY SHOULD BE FIRED!!! Holland felt they wanted too much for Feds? WTF did Holland offer? So personal feelings outway the better of the team? Holland is an idiot, whoever nixed the deal should be fired... ...get it right Crymson, handing in my card doesn't mean I cannot comment on the idiot and the idiot organization for keeping him around. I am not gonna suck Holland like you and other folks on here. . . Will I cheer for this team, no! Will I support Holland? No! Will I laugh my ass off when they lose in the 1st round, yes! If they go on to the 2nd or further, will I pretend I never handed my card in, NO! I will not re-new my Red Wings membership (support them) until Holland is GONE! And if that is never, then so be it, but I will ALWAYS have an opinion!!! If you can't handle it, then take a hike yourself...” So according to your last post I guess you still don't support the Wings and have handed in your super secret decoder ring (I mean Red Wings card) but you want everyone else to show them respect? Me like most here like the team, like the players, like the management, and don't freak out about the rest (especially with all the 9/11 nonsense). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slave 31 Report post Posted February 10, 2009 I agree with ou in the sense that I am sick of seeing Crosby in almost 80% of the hockey commercials i see, (and the one you mention with pitsburgh doing all that stuff in the finals and not evening mentioning that they lost haha) is a little frustrating, and I agree with you that i do not think crosby is the premier player in the league, i can think of 5 off the top of my head that i would take ahead of him if i was starting my dream team (Z and Dats being 2 of them).... But in saying that i liken it to Marilyn Manson of the mid 90's, To be honest with you I didn't even care about his music didn't like it much either i can not remember actually knowing anyone who really liked the band, but most of the people i knew had his album, like you said the media can be a popular tool either good or bad The NHL (bettman) has latched onto Crosby as their go to guy and seriously, anything that gets the NHL in the papers and noticed, and anything that helps get people into hockey, whether by watching on tv or getting asses in the seats at arenas, or jersey sales or whatever is a good thing. I am sure we could have a bunch of commercials with riberio fromdallas on in them but noone would know (outside of dallas and die hard hockey fans) what it was for, and realistically we do not need to market to the die hard fans, if Crosby's face gets the nhl more money (and hence a higher salary cap )i am all for it; besdies we kicked crosby's ass in the only place that matters, on the ice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedisappearer 291 Report post Posted February 10, 2009 WOW . . . :blink: . . . JUST WOW IS ALL THAT I CAN SAY. Your nuttier than you were after the trade deadline last year. Seriously, who cares how many commercials have Crosby in them - I sure wouldn't think someone without a Red Wings card would care. You've said more crap about this team and organization than any media person I've ever heard. Here are a few examples from last year when you "officially turned in your Red Wings card" whatever that is: This is my favorite though: And a few more - just for humor's sake: So according to your last post I guess you still don't support the Wings and have handed in your super secret decoder ring (I mean Red Wings card) but you want everyone else to show them respect? Me like most here like the team, like the players, like the management, and don't freak out about the rest (especially with all the 9/11 nonsense). :clap: My only regret is you didn't use the quote where he turned in his Wings Fan Card. Classic! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted February 10, 2009 Thats some funny s***. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clutchngrab 12 Report post Posted February 10, 2009 Please make sure you return that shopping cart when your done with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozen-Man 144 Report post Posted February 11, 2009 :clap: My only regret is you didn't use the quote where he turned in his Wings Fan Card. Classic! Thanks, it took me a while to pick out the best stuff because there was so much there. Oh by the way look back up to the end of the first time I quoted him from last year - I do have the turning in of the Red Wings card but it cracks me up so much that here it is again. ...same s**t is gonna happen on draft day and then on July 1st! This guy has to go, I am officially handing in my Red Wings card, this team is doomed as long as Holland is in charge... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted February 11, 2009 The whole reason of Crosby being on more commercials than Ovechkin (and even so Ovechkin is still on many) is because of marketability. Marketing has as much to do with skill as politician's marketing has to do with integrity. Only in small ounces. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted February 11, 2009 WOW . . . :blink: . . . JUST WOW IS ALL THAT I CAN SAY. Your nuttier than you were after the trade deadline last year. Seriously, who cares how many commercials have Crosby in them - I sure wouldn't think someone without a Red Wings card would care. You've said more crap about this team and organization than any media person I've ever heard. Here are a few examples from last year when you "officially turned in your Red Wings card" whatever that is: This is my favorite though: And a few more - just for humor's sake: So according to your last post I guess you still don't support the Wings and have handed in your super secret decoder ring (I mean Red Wings card) but you want everyone else to show them respect? Me like most here like the team, like the players, like the management, and don't freak out about the rest (especially with all the 9/11 nonsense). well a few things, I was a totally different person back then, drinking, marriage problems, UNGODLY debt, concessions at work and a few other things I wish to not get into. I know that doesn't excuse those words, but I am a different person from a year ago... ...second, are you sure I said all those things? I remember some of them, but not all, man I was irate! lastly, how is it that you found all those, is there way to just search replys by a username? That is cool! touche' by the way. That does not sound like someone who is proud of their team or the city, but like I said, a whole different life back then. Really I was only using 9/11 to talk about how the media manipulates the truth to get viewers to believe something. I guess it was a bad (or maybe too sensitive) example. seeing how I used to be really reminds me of how far I have come as a human being, you wouldn't think something as silly as comments in a sports forum would be so profound in someones life, but take that stuff and translate it to real life and that is the type of person I was. I am thankful everyday that I was able to transform myself into a decent human being, and now I thank you for putting that up and reminding of just how bad a person I was in life and how much I have changed. Wow, I look back over the way I was and cringe. I am thankful for everyday, and very thankful for the wonderful people in my life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozen-Man 144 Report post Posted February 11, 2009 well a few things, I was a totally different person back then, drinking, marriage problems, UNGODLY debt, concessions at work and a few other things I wish to not get into. I know that doesn't excuse those words, but I am a different person from a year ago... ...second, are you sure I said all those things? I remember some of them, but not all, man I was irate! lastly, how is it that you found all those, is there way to just search replys by a username? That is cool! touche' by the way. That does not sound like someone who is proud of their team or the city, but like I said, a whole different life back then. Really I was only using 9/11 to talk about how the media manipulates the truth to get viewers to believe something. I guess it was a bad (or maybe too sensitive) example. seeing how I used to be really reminds me of how far I have come as a human being, you wouldn't think something as silly as comments in a sports forum would be so profound in someones life, but take that stuff and translate it to real life and that is the type of person I was. I am thankful everyday that I was able to transform myself into a decent human being, and now I thank you for putting that up and reminding of just how bad a person I was in life and how much I have changed. Wow, I look back over the way I was and cringe. I am thankful for everyday, and very thankful for the wonderful people in my life. Congrats on the new outlook on life, it will make the world a more enjoyable place for you. Yeah, all the comments are from you. If you click on a member's name next to their post one of the options is to see all the member's posts - that little button has come back to bite many of us here on the butt in the past. Again, truly congratulations on the changes in life, I hope that they serve you well throughout the rest of it. It is amazing how much our lives can change and the effect that has on us as a person. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted February 11, 2009 :clap: My only regret is you didn't use the quote where he turned in his Wings Fan Card. Classic! PWNED! Just kidding! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shockwave180 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2009 Aw, this has turned out to be a heartwarming thread. Who'da thought? I'm not gonna touch the "Everyone hates us" topic again. That's been done to death in here. But I respect your ability to own up to and move past your old self, LeftWinger. In other news, being a Wings fan is awesome, regardless of who's covering the games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted February 11, 2009 Aw, this has turned out to be a heartwarming thread. Who'da thought? I'm not gonna touch the "Everyone hates us" topic again. That's been done to death in here. But I respect your ability to own up to and move past your old self, LeftWinger. In other news, being a Wings fan is awesome, regardless of who's covering the games. ..yes it is, and to put to bed the "Card" issue, I will never turn it in again! to go along the lines of another user in another thread, I should have it tattoo'd on my ass! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted February 11, 2009 The "media spin doctors" aren't a part of Fox Sports Detroit or LetsGoWings.com. While it certainly wouldn't be nice, they aren't required to stroke the egos of the Red Wings organization 24-7-365. And while I don't particularly pay that much attention to sports media or broadcasting, when I do I fail to see how everybody is just completely against the Red Wings. Get a fan of another team, I bet you'll get a response every now and then that national media stroke the Red Wings egos more than necessary. They have no effect whatsoever on the Red Wings organization or the game. You enjoy the Wings, so do I, so does everybody in here. Who cares what the national media might think? We all like them in here, that can really just be enough and it can really be that simple. Not everybody has to like them or kiss their butts, and not everybody will. Nothing wrong with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
