StevieY9802 6 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 Everyone, the Wings aren't trading for a goalie. Aside from the fact that KH came out and said so, it doesn't make sense. An upgrade from our current goaltending situation would cost millions more than we can afford. You cannot get a 2-time Cup winning goalie for Osgood's price. So why would Kenny change that? Bingo. You can't get an upgrade over Osgood or Conklin for what the Wings can afford. Making a trade for the sake of making one isn't a good strategy. I certainly don't want the wings to give up picks for a depth player. Trust in Ken Holland. He will make the right call. Yeah I don't udnerstand. After everthing we've seen post-lockout people still rip into Kenny and think he NEEDS to make a trade. He didn't go and spend money and useless players in the summer of 07, like many in here kept yelling for him to do, and then went and got Stuart at the deadline and the Wings win the Cup. If Detroit doesn't "need" a goalie then no team has ever needed one ever. And who will the Wings pick up who is an upgrade over the two goalies they have now that is affordable with their cap situation? A checker is a possibility and clearly the most popular among the fans. But I think we'll move for a stay-at-home defenseman. But they have like 8 d-men. Lids, Rafalski, Kronner, Stuart, Lebda, Cheli, Lilja and Meech. Where would another dman fit in? I know people in here don't lke Lilja but the Wings do so if he's healthy he's probably playing. I don't see a dman fitting in. just cuz holland said hes not tradin for a goalie doesn't mean a damn thing. And the same response I had to someone above.. who do they get that's an upgrade for a low cap number? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 He played a major part of the season in getting them to the playoffs. Without his contribution, they don't even make it. IMHO it should count and it does. I think its cheap of anyone to slight any player like that. Especially someone who did his job and maybe got injured in the first round of playoffs and was unable to compete. My apologies. Next time I'll be more sensitive to your defintion of a Cup-winning goalie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Third Man In 2,091 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 Gretzky to LA! I don't think Phoenix would move him and Jokinen on the same day. Maybe those rumors were bogus after all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingAbner 13 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 3 time cup winning goalie. 97, 98, and 2008 1997 doesn't "count." He was the backup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozen-Man 144 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 But they have like 8 d-men. Lids, Rafalski, Kronner, Stuart, Lebda, Cheli, Lilja and Meech. Where would another dman fit in? I know people in here don't lke Lilja but the Wings do so if he's healthy he's probably playing. I don't see a dman fitting in. I agree no way Lilja is leaving, he is great for this team. No he wouldn't be great for Lids money or even for Little Nick's money but I don't think they will get rid of the best shot blocker on the team, one of the best PK Dmen, and a (mostly) solid stay at home defense man whose cap hit is only $1.25M. I can't see anyone we could trade for who offers as much without taking a much bigger cap hit which we don't have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SDavis35 140 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 And the same response I had to someone above.. who do they get that's an upgrade for a low cap number? Just throwing it out there, rumours about Clemmenson being available ($500K) So we could theoretically afford him. His contract also runs out at the end of the year, which would say we could let him walk next year. That being said, I have confidence in our goaltending situation, and think that it's been getting better as the year goes on. Osgood still gets me a little nervous, but not enough to waste a trade on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 Ian Lapierre! Please Holland? He's exactly the Drake type we need on the 4th line! I'd like the Wings to get him, too. But the thing is, he wants to stay in Colorado. So the Avs aren't operating under a "move him or lose him" stance. But maybe they'd take a pick or weak prospect for him as it stands, knowing they can just re-sign him in the summer. In my mind, lappy is even more appealing than Drake because of the way hes been killing penalties. Hes a great PKer, which would allow the Wings to keep their offensive stars even more fresh in the playoffs with lesser PK time. Babs manages the PK time well as it is, but with the way our PK has had a penchant to implode at times, plus the added grit and energy Lappy brings, it'd be a good pick-up should it not cost too much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P. Marlowe 748 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 With everyone healtyhy Red Wings have 14-15 forwards for 12 roster spots. Where would you put Laperriere or Roberts or Neil? Ottawa wants 2nd round draft pick for a 4th line player. None of those player bring more than what Maltby, Draper, Helm, Kopecky, Leino or Abdelkader do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Donaldjr2448 43 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 AO possibly hurt.... He was probably celebrating one of his practice goals, and then the other four guys on his line jumped on him and began celebrating!! LOL Just kidding!! But NHL Network said it was a foot injury and he was helped off the ice!! Seriously I like AO, they just need to chill on the goal celebration especially when your down 5-1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ashenhigh 9 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 With everyone healtyhy Red Wings have 14-15 forwards for 12 roster spots. Where would you put Laperriere or Roberts or Neil? Ottawa wants 2nd round draft pick for a 4th line player. None of those player bring more than what Maltby, Draper, Helm, Kopecky, Leino or Abdelkader do. Lappy and Neil bring the pain. Maltby forgot how to check, draper forgot how to play defense. Any tough hitter would be a solid addition. But unfortunately it wont happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hckypete96 3 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 clemensen would be a great guy to have come to detroit.... nj didnt have him see a lot of shots and neither would the wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 With everyone healtyhy Red Wings have 14-15 forwards for 12 roster spots. Where would you put Laperriere or Roberts or Neil? Ottawa wants 2nd round draft pick for a 4th line player. None of those player bring more than what Maltby, Draper, Helm, Kopecky, Leino or Abdelkader do. ... maybe Roberts because of age doesnt, but Neil and Lappy are more impact players then any of them. Leino is the most talented of all of them, but I'd take Neil or Lappy over him in the playoffs, those 2 are playoff players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 With everyone healtyhy Red Wings have 14-15 forwards for 12 roster spots. Where would you put Laperriere or Roberts or Neil? Ottawa wants 2nd round draft pick for a 4th line player. None of those player bring more than what Maltby, Draper, Helm, Kopecky, Leino or Abdelkader do. Neil is out of the picture. Holland already said so. The Avs won't ask for a 2nd for Lappy, and if they do then no deal - its as simple as that. But I would honestly take Lappy over any one of those guys - even Helm. Hes more physical than all of them, and is as good a PKer as Draper is (if not better this year). And then theres the experience factor. If somehow he comes at the price of a 4th rounder or a weak prospect, then I would hope Holland would snap him up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 Seriously I like AO, they just need to chill on the goal celebration especially when your down 5-1. Was he on the ice for that goal? I didn't think he was. Doesn't detract from your point though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGKEIB 32 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 With everyone healtyhy Red Wings have 14-15 forwards for 12 roster spots. Where would you put Laperriere or Roberts or Neil? Ottawa wants 2nd round draft pick for a 4th line player. None of those player bring more than what Maltby, Draper, Helm, Kopecky, Leino or Abdelkader do. Roberts probably won't happen, but Neil and Laperriere bring a level of physicality higher than what Maltby and co. can aspire to. They also score some goals too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 LAST UPDATED (3-4-2009, 11:17 AM CT) March 4th, 2009 To DAL: (F) B. Morrison - To ANA: Waivers To TOR: (G) M. Gerber - To OTT: Waivers To BUF: (G) M. Tellqvist - To PHX: 4th Round Pick[/b] To PIT: (D) A. Wozniewski - To STL: (D) D. Richmond To CAL: (D) J. Leopold - To COL: (D) L. Nycholt, (D) R. Wilson, Draft Pick To CBJ: (F) Antione Vermette - To OTT: (G) Pascal Leclaire, 2nd Round Pick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 Holland on TSN right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 Holland live on TSN now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elshupacabra 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 Ken Holland is on TSN right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 Kenny Holland being interviewed by TSN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 (edited) LAST UPDATED (3-4-2009, 11:17 AM CT) March 4th, 2009 To DAL: (F) B. Morrison - To ANA: Waivers To TOR: (G) M. Gerber - To OTT: Waivers To BUF: (G) M. Tellqvist - To PHX: 4th Round Pick[/b] To PIT: (D) A. Wozniewski - To STL: (D) D. Richmond To CAL: (D) J. Leopold - To COL: (D) L. Nycholt, (D) R. Wilson, Draft Pick To CBJ: (F) Antione Vermette - To OTT: (G) Pascal Leclaire, 2nd Round Pick Craig Adams to Pittsburgh via waivers. Erik Reitz to Toronto via waivers. Edited March 4, 2009 by MacK_Attack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozen-Man 144 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 Hey did you guys know Kenny is on TSN? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 Looks like Hossa is day to day after last night Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 Ken says the Wings don't have anything going on right now....so he says, atleast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 "It appears were not going to do anything, but you never know" What would you be looking for? "Grit up front or on the back-end" Couple things from Kenny, not really happy hearing this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
