Electrophile 3,554 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Just got back from my friend's bridal shower.....nice to see a Wings victory to come home to! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alowicious 0 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 (edited) You know, I just want to make a comment on how great the Red Wings organization/ Olympia entertainment is. I was talking to a nice elderly couple at my work today, and they missed the game today, and got there at 5:00 like their tickets said. The box office gave them two free tickets to Round one game two of the playoffs. Now, that is class. Let's go Ilitchs! I agree, class acts all the way! Wish I had bought tickets and missed the game too. Edited April 5, 2009 by alowicious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingAbner 13 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Mebee that's because they were a little late going after their man? Hmmmmm? Somehow defensemen ending up lying down in the crease doesn't take me to a happy place. Take the play as a whole. Osgood lingered too long, made a bad play on the puck, the Wings didn't clear it, and both defensemen were scrambling. But bravo on loving Osgood. That isn't a knock, if you think he's turning it around, great. I don't hate the guy, but at least I can assess his play objectively. He WAS a great goalie, but he is past his prime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 (edited) And if it's all the same with you, I'm just gonna hope the Wings, INCLUDING THE GOALIES, do well in their last few games. Because none of the people who are critical of Osgood's horrible year this year want that, right? I'm sure only the people who have defended Ozzie here want the team to succeed. The rest of us are mad that we're making the playoffs. It's too bad Ozzie won any games at all because then we'd REALLY be able to bash him! GRRR, I'm just steam-boatin mad, folks. Yee-haw. How about you tell me what regular season GAA means in the playoffs, and I'll conjure up some other statistics to claim both why the Wings should win and why they should lose. It's easy to play this game. Answer these questions for me, I just want to know exactly what you think: On a scale from 1-10 (ten being the best) rate the year Osgood had overall in 07-08. On a scale from 1-10 (ten being the best) rate the year Osgood has had overall (ie not just the past 10 or so games) in 08-09. On a scale from 1-10 (ten being the best) rate the year Conklin has had overall in 08-09. And lastly: Do you think that a goalie, any goalie, can have a horrible regular season, then play in the playoffs and win the cup. Please, I just want straight answers. Edited April 5, 2009 by Z and D for the C Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syntax 359 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 (edited) I just got back from the game. I thought we had a good game overall, with Ozzie to blame for the first goal and bad D on during the scrum in front of the net on the 2nd. Ozzie looked good and overall I didn't have a problem with the way anyone played. The refs missed a couple of calls, but we got the W anyway. See you all next game! Sorry about the pic, too many Foster's during the game to take a good one! Edited April 5, 2009 by syntax Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown Red Wings 245 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 That was much better. Yeah, it was closer than it should have been, but the Wings played with some purpose and energy today. They made very few mistakes, and when they did, Ozzie actually came out and stopped them. He stopped the puck, we won....nothing else matters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 (edited) And lastly: Do you think that a goalie, any goalie, can have a horrible regular season, then play in the playoffs and win the cup. Please, I just want straight answers. I'll skip the silly rating part to get down to the good question. The answer is "yes". Cam Ward 2005-2006 regular season: 28 GP 3.68 GAA .882 SV% 2005-2006 playoffs: 23 GP 2.14 GAA .920 SV% Carolina Hurricanes, Stanley Cup Champions Are we done yet? Edited April 5, 2009 by Datsyerberger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
digitaljohn88 4 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 (edited) And lastly: Do you think that a goalie, any goalie, can have a horrible regular season, then play in the playoffs and win the cup. Please, I just want straight answers. Cam Ward: 05-06 Regular Season: 28GP .882% 3.68GAA 05-06 Playoffs: Cup win and Conn Smythe Maybe not likely, but certainly possible. edit: i was beaten to the punch Edited April 5, 2009 by digitaljohn88 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Cam Ward: 05-06 Regular Season: 28GP .882% 3.68GAA 05-06 Playoffs: Cup win and Conn Smythe Maybe not likely, but certainly possible. edit: i was beaten to the punch S'alright, I forgot about the Smythe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Great win; the only thing that kept it close was Backstrom. Osgood made some great saves when they had to be made. In the last minute of the third, Minnesota iced the puck... twice...in a span of 18 seconds. That's what separates the teams fighting for a playoff spot from the ones in the playoffs. Things like that might help Lemaire make his mind up about leaving. And, I swear I heard Mike Emrick call Olvecky "Ovechkin". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 I'll skip the silly rating part to get down to the good question. The answer is "yes". Cam Ward 2005-2006 regular season: 28 GP 3.68 GAA .882 SV% 2005-2006 playoffs: 23 GP 2.14 GAA .920 SV% Carolina Hurricanes, Stanley Cup Champions Are we done yet? Nice. I got one too: Patrick Roy 1985-86 regular season: 47 GP, 3.35 GAA, .875 SV% Playoffs: 20 GP, roughly 2.05 GAA (can't find SV% but I bet you it was pretty good) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Nice. I got one too: Patrick Roy 1985-86 regular season: 47 GP, 3.35 GAA, .875 SV% Playoffs: 20 GP, roughly 2.05 GAA (can't find SV% but I bet you it was pretty good) Ozzie himself is another good example. His career regular season SV% with the Wings is something like .907 or .908, but his career SV% with the Wings in the playoffs is .920 (better than Brodeur with NJ, who sits at .919 SV%) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 I'll skip the silly rating part to get down to the good question. The answer is "yes". Cam Ward 2005-2006 regular season: 28 GP 3.68 GAA .882 SV% 2005-2006 playoffs: 23 GP 2.14 GAA .920 SV% Carolina Hurricanes, Stanley Cup Champions Are we done yet? Is this supposed to make us feel better about Ozzie? Cause it's not working... Possible? Yes Likely? No. esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Is this supposed to make us feel better about Ozzie? Cause it's not working... Possible? Yes Likely? No. esteef So read my post above this one of yours. Or the one about Roy before that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeahhh.....And you always offer such creative, positive and supportive banter on this board. I look forward to your every post; whether it's about Ozzie's stats; Ozzie's positioning; Ozzie's stupid supporters; Conklin's chances; how good the team is in spite of Oz; etc., etc., etc., etc., etc. I have always felt variety was the spice of life and boy do you fullfill that notion, yessirrreee.... You're either Shoreline's oil boy, or you're about 10 years old. Grow up and stop making childish posts like this, whomever the hell you are. GMR was absent for the first two goals, and especially the early Ozzie saves (particularly on Gaborik from the circles where Ozzie was confidently way out of his net) only to conveniently show up to s*** all over Ozzie for Minnesota's first goal. How's that for rolling in? I see that you've still not gotten over me, which is a problem that many people seem to have. Ozzie did play well in the 3rd period, but goals like that 1st goal are why he's struggled all season with consistency, and are things we can't afford to have in the playoffs against top teams. My evaluation of Ozzie's play this season is more realistic than your blind homerism towards him. Your only defense of his play is based on how he played in previous seasons, which no one is really arguing against. No one will take you seriously if you're unwilling to admit that Ozzie has been horrible all season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dimaline312000 51 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Great Win Wings!! Glad to see the Wings get win #50!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted April 5, 2009 I see that you've still not gotten over me, which is a problem that many people seem to have. Ozzie did play well in the 3rd period, but goals like that 1st goal are why he's struggled all season with consistency, and are things we can't afford to have in the playoffs against top teams. Hey guess what, not all goalies are consistent, only the few, elite ones and even they are allowed bad seasons without the vitriol people who call themselves fans, like you, spew his way. Ozzie only needs to be good enough to help this team win. That's all. And as for getting over you, the person I quoted was already talking about a poster's reply to your post, which is the only reason your name even came up, so don't flatter yourself. My evaluation of Ozzie's play this season is more realistic than your blind homerism towards him. Your only defense of his play is based on how he played in previous seasons, which no one is really arguing against. No one will take you seriously if you're unwilling to admit that Ozzie has been horrible all season. Strange, because I've been called an Ozzie basher and an Ozzie homer all in the same season. If you want to continue making an uneducated nonsensical argument about me being a blind Ozzie homer, then by all means I'll hand you a series of quotes from me throughout this season. On the other hand, you appear in convenient times during the game to s*** on players of the Red Wings, then monday morning quarterback how this team needs an enforcer which somehow would help their defensive/goaltending struggles -- not. What's funny is if you've paid any attention at all you'd notice that earlier on in the season I agreed with you and as the season went along, I actually understood the problems the Wings have, while you continued to whine about the same s*** over and over. Osgood's play has actually gotten better, and this team has shown how it can win without an enforcer, but your tune hasn't really changed. Funny how that works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 So read my post above this one of yours. Or the one about Roy before that So we can count how many times this has happened on one hand? I still don't feel better. esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted April 5, 2009 (edited) So we can count how many times this has happened on one hand? I still don't feel better. esteef This team is a lost cause. f*** the Red Wings Osgood! Feel better? Edited April 5, 2009 by Shoreline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#18 the _Hoss_ 2 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 I would like to point out the GWG, everybody touched the puck from Lids to Hoss, that was a beautiful play by the best team ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 This team is a lost cause. f*** the Red Wings Osgood! Feel better? Kinda. esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 I would like to point out the GWG, everybody touched the puck from Lids to Hoss, that was a beautiful play by the best team ! Yes sir- it was a sweet play and very Red Wings-like. That first goal on Osgood was his only bad one and I'm more than ok with Osgood letting in one bad goal a game if he's only going to let in one other goal. Two goals against? Very, very, very good. No one's going to walk into the playoffs with a sub-2-GAA. The high octane offense of this team can definitely bring us a cup if Ozzy only lets in two goals a game in the playoffs. Really nothing to complain about in this game. Zetterberg was clearly snakebitten, though- how many times did he set Cleary or Franzen up with an great scoring chance only to come up empty-handed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 So we can count how many times this has happened on one hand? I still don't feel better. esteef Well, I just named the one I thought of right off the top of my head. Hey, if you want a complex statistical analysis, you can pay me. "Datsyerberger" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Hey guess what, not all goalies are consistent, only the few, elite ones and even they are allowed bad seasons without the vitriol people who call themselves fans, like you, spew his way. Ozzie only needs to be good enough to help this team win. That's all. And as for getting over you, the person I quoted was already talking about a poster's reply to your post, which is the only reason your name even came up, so don't flatter yourself. That only holds true in the regular season. In the playoffs we'll have to win because of goaltending, and can't get by with lackluster play. Oh and Ozzie has been consistent this season. Consistently bad. His save percentage and GAA prove that very few goalies have been as bad as him, yet you keep defending those stats with his record, which is a complement to the team more than him. He's lucky the players in front of him have carried him into the playoffs this year, because he hasn't done much to help. Imagine if he got peppered with 30-40 shots a game like some other goalies have to face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted April 6, 2009 That only holds true in the regular season. In the playoffs we'll have to win because of goaltending, and can't get by with lackluster play. Oh and Ozzie has been consistent this season. Consistently bad. His save percentage and GAA prove that very few goalies have been as bad as him, yet you keep defending those stats with his record, which is a complement to the team more than him. He's lucky the players in front of him have carried him into the playoffs this year, because he hasn't done much to help. Imagine if he got peppered with 30-40 shots a game like some other goalies have to face. The talented and aggressive offense has prevented any goalie from getting peppered like that, as well as the good backcheck to screw up their chances of a clean zone entry, but once opposing teams have got deep into the zone, the defense breaks down, allows chances (players to stand in front of the net, outhustle defensemen around wide angles, and so on), and that leads to it being down to the goalie, who won't make every save (worse, on excellent scoring chances), especially if he isn't a top tier HOFer like Brodeur, who, even in his own right, has had plenty of his own playoff problems in years past, as well as successes. If Osgood sucks in the playoffs (and I don't mean one-and-done unless Babs decides this is the way to go), and that's assuming he is the playoff starter, he will be on a short leash like Hasek, and I have every bit of confidence this cup winning coach can decide when the right time would be, and I have high hopes it won't come to that. I'm more in a wait-and-see-until-I-judge mode (and try to ******* enjoy the games rather than complain all the time), whereas some people have made up their minds way before the playoffs even started. *ahem* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites