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Eddie,

I'd like to hear your opinion about the momentum of Scott Niedermayer hook had on Holmstrom?

Not sure I understand the question. You mean did Scott Niedermayer's hook play a part in Holmstrom hitting Wisniewski in the face? If so - possibly. I do believe that Holmstrom was trying to spin away from Niedermayer when he hit Wisniewski in the face.

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Not sure I understand the question. You mean did Scott Niedermayer's hook play a part in Holmstrom hitting Wisniewski in the face? If so - possibly. I do believe that Holmstrom was trying to spin away from Niedermayer when he hit Wisniewski in the face.

Ya, I didn't want to bait you so I was trying to be a bit ambiguious. I'm a Wings fan(but I do try to be objective as I can), so in my eyes I saw a hook and as he was falling down, Wisniewski got popped.

What ever happened, thats the least of his concerns, I doubt that even with his pulmonary reserves his body will be able to take the increased blood flow to play through this injury. I wouldn't have him on a bike for 2 weeks. Who ever cleared him for activity in 48 hours is nuts! He's lucky he doesn't have a rib fracture as well.

Edited May 7, 2009 by servo

[Guest MrSandMan]

People are splitting hairs with the elbow thing. Sure Holmstrom accidentally elbowed a player that wasn't called. Who cares, a lot of BS crap isn't getting called.

For example, the BS call against Stuart in GM3 and Neidermayer (I think it was him) who not only interfered with Osgood, but molested him - no call.

If Duck fans want every elbow (or questionable physical infraction) called, they'd spend most of the game killing 5 on 4's on 5 on 3's.

I just hope Babcock takes notice what isn't being called and totally utilizes this in our favor. I hope he has all our players molesting and interfering Hiller, I hope Franzen and Holmer knock Hiller the f*** out, since it's not being called. May as well take advantage of what refs aren't calling, Ducks are.

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It should of been a call, but no means was it dirty.. Maybe the ref didn't see it, just like he couldn't see the puck

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It should of been a call, but no means was it dirty.. Maybe the ref didn't see it, just like he couldn't see the puck

[kidish 0]

I just hope Babcock takes notice what isn't being called and totally utilizes this in our favor. I hope he has all our players molesting and interfering Hiller, I hope Franzen and Holmer knock Hiller the f*** out, since it's not being called. May as well take advantage of what refs aren't calling, Ducks are.

Here's where your reasoning falls short: if Detroit starts it, Anaheim will finish it. Because Anaheim did earn their dirty reputation by, you know, actually playing that way. Seeing as how both of these teams could lose (if possible) in this series and it'd be fine by me, I'll simply point out that Anaheim really hasn't been getting away with all that much more than Detroit (who has redefined the definition of embellishment and diving since game one).

Although seeing these two teams kill each other might be fun. And then Anaheim starting Parros in the next game...probably be even more fun.

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Detroit (who has redefined the definition of embellishment and diving since game one).

You think? Other than Hossa who did dive on a call that went our way, we are not a team of divers. Maltby has about a total of 4 minutes of ice time to date. So who is the embellisher?

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I don't think anyone is suggesting that Holmstrom elbowing Wisniewski in the face is what caused Wisniewski's injury nor what sent him to the hospital. If they are, they are wrong but please post a link to such allegations for all of us to see.

Holmstrom said he knew two guys were on him and yet says he didn't know Wisniewski was there. It's gotta be one or the other. I have to assume that he knew a Ducks player was there but did not know that it was Wisniewski nor that he was seriously hurt.

The Ducks are not happy, obviously, and Wisniewski has called Holmstrom "gutless" and "dirty" and described the elbowing as "blatant". It should be very interesting to see how Holmstrom is treated tonight and throughout the rest of this series, especially if the Ducks are as dirty of a team as many of you claim.

LINK TO WISNIEWSKI PRESS CONFERENCE

L O freaking L

[kidish 0]

You think? Other than Hossa who did dive on a call that went our way, we are not a team of divers. Maltby has about a total of 4 minutes of ice time to date. So who is the embellisher?

Cheilos, Franzen (someone from Anaheim I'm sure posted on Youtube the video of Getz telling him to get up and be a man), Hossa.

I'm not saying it's outlandish, but considering Detroit has some of the best skaters in the league, a lot of us out here in hockeyland are wondering why they are suddenly so easy to take off the puck.

[Guest MrSandMan]

Cheilos, Franzen (someone from Anaheim I'm sure posted on Youtube the video of Getz telling him to get up and be a man), Hossa.

I'm not saying it's outlandish, but considering Detroit has some of the best skaters in the league, a lot of us out here in hockeyland are wondering why they are suddenly so easy to take off the puck.

Please post these videos that you speak of. I know what Franzen one you are talking about, he was cowardly back handed in the chops by Getzlaf after Franzen lost his skating.

I am REALLY interested in seeing this Chelios one you speak of, this should be good! I think you are talking about the time he was high sticked in the face and neck area....

Are you for real?

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Please post these videos that you speak of. I know what Franzen one you are talking about, he was cowardly back handed in the chops by Getzlaf after Franzen lost his skating.

I am REALLY interested in seeing this Chelios one you speak of, this should be good! I think you are talking about the time he was high sticked in the face and neck area....

Are you for real?

I only saw a Youtube of the Franzen one, not the Chelios one. No video from me, sorry to say. Maybe hit up some Anaheim faithful for that stuff.

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I only saw a Youtube of the Franzen one, not the Chelios one. No video from me, sorry to say. Maybe hit up some Anaheim faithful for that stuff.

Yah I forgot about that Franzen one. In fact, I burried it deep deep down. Embellishment spelled with a *****. There was however, no diving in that one, embellishment on the love tap and then Getz making him look pretty euro.

[Guest MrSandMan]

I only saw a Youtube of the Franzen one, not the Chelios one. No video from me, sorry to say. Maybe hit up some Anaheim faithful for that stuff.

Just what I thought. You come to the boards talking big s***, yet when confronted, you happen to only see "the Franzen one"... and you still have that incident wrong. He was back handed in the chops by Getlaf after Franzen fell (working/chasing Getzlaf behind the net), yet that cheap shot prick took a swing at a man down on his knees, that, my friend, is a true coward!

Please don't come here and make s*** up without backing up your claims. So far you've been called out, yet now admit that you didn't even see what really happen with your own two eyes.

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Just what I thought. You come to the boards talking big s***, yet when confronted, you happen to only see "the Franzen one"... and you still have that incident wrong. He was back handed in the chops by Getlaf after Franzen fell (working/chasing Getzlaf behind the net), yet that cheap shot prick took a swing at a man down on his knees, that, my friend, is a true coward!

Please don't come here and make s*** up without backing up your claims. So far you've been called out, yet now admit that you didn't even see what really happen with your own two eyes.

I'm not really here talking "big s***." But hey, whatever gets you riled up. This place is more alive than any Toronto boards, and for good reason! (There's your invitation to slam my own beloved team.)

I really didn't see the thing with Chelios, so...yeah, that makes me some kind of coward or some s***.

And IN THE CHOPS? Oh lawd. Dude, if Franzen can't take a gloved-love tap to the SIDE OF THE HELMET, he needs to figure skate already. Take the red glasses off, mate, the blue-tinted ones are much better.

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I haven't seen a bunch of goons cry foul so much since 1938.

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The elbow by Holmstrom could have been a penalty, and had it been called, it would have off-set the hook by Niedermayer. For Wisniewski to say what he said, especially after admitting he has no recollection of the actual event and watching "3 different replays", to call it blatant and to call Holmstrom gutless, that shows a complete lack of class on his part. Part of me wants him to be able to come back to we can take a few whacks at his face and show him what blatant elbows really look like. He was not hunched over coughing up blood when the elbow happened, he was back in the play playing the body and possibly interfering with an opponent screening his goalie. He did not hunch over and cough blood until well after the play was stopped. Just a case of a guy who is new to the team, is obviously aware of his current team's reputation (hence his comment about Pronger) and trying to make his mark since he will likely not be able to play again in this series. As if we needed any more bulletin board material to enhance our hatred of the Ducks, I just hope that his absence exposes more than ever their lack of depth, and we get a few breaks as a result. Go Wings!

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I don't think anyone is suggesting that Holmstrom elbowing Wisniewski in the face is what caused Wisniewski's injury nor what sent him to the hospital. If they are, they are wrong but please post a link to such allegations for all of us to see.

Holmstrom said he knew two guys were on him and yet says he didn't know Wisniewski was there. It's gotta be one or the other. I have to assume that he knew a Ducks player was there but did not know that it was Wisniewski nor that he was seriously hurt.

The Ducks are not happy, obviously, and Wisniewski has called Holmstrom "gutless" and "dirty" and described the elbowing as "blatant". It should be very interesting to see how Holmstrom is treated tonight and throughout the rest of this series, especially if the Ducks are as dirty of a team as many of you claim.

LINK TO WISNIEWSKI PRESS CONFERENCE

Hmmm Ducks...most penalized team in the league in the reg season. Wings....One of the, if not THE least penalized team in the reg season.... Playoff time....that number somehow reverses in the series. Something isn't quite right and its in the numbers man. The ducks are well known to be the dirtiest team in the league. They take the most penalties, they goon it up the most and they led the league in fights with like 86 to the wings 9? i think. again, the proof is in the numbers.

Its playoff hockey now and for whatever reason....when the ducks do certain things theres a grey area....mainly in the goonery department. Most of the wings penalties have been marginal at best. Especially Stuarts Phantom interference call.

Edited May 7, 2009 by XxGoWingsxX

[hail2ducks 0]

I haven't seen a bunch of goons cry foul so much since 1938.

lmao, great post

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Please post these videos that you speak of. I know what Franzen one you are talking about, he was cowardly back handed in the chops by Getzlaf after Franzen lost his skating.

I am REALLY interested in seeing this Chelios one you speak of, this should be good! I think you are talking about the time he was high sticked in the face and neck area....

Are you for real?

The Chelios dive was in the third against Selanne and it deserved and acadmy award. Honestly it was BAD. Couldn't find any video's on youtube sorry.

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Hmmm Ducks...most penalized team in the league in the reg season. Wings....One of the, if not THE least penalized team in the reg season.... Playoff time....that number somehow reverses in the series. Something isn't quite right and its in the numbers man. The ducks are well known to be the dirtiest team in the league. They take the most penalties, they goon it up the most and they led the league in fights with like 86 to the wings 9? i think. again, the proof is in the numbers.

Its playoff hockey now and for whatever reason....when the ducks do certain things theres a grey area....mainly in the goonery department. Most of the wings penalties have been marginal at best. Especially Stuarts Phantom interference call.

The ducks receive a ton of major penalties from fighting, not to mention they have questionable calls on them constantly b/c of their reputation. Detroit could literally get a diving call every game if not multiple times a game. Not to mention Lidstrom could honestly be called for interference EVERY shift.

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ok. I think there are enough threads concerning this topic. We will all agree to disagree. Homer elbowed, Brown diliberate headshot on Hudler. Homer gutless, 90% of the Anaheim tean gutless. Lets move on.

[kidish 0]

ok. I think there are enough threads concerning this topic. We will all agree to disagree. Homer elbowed, Brown diliberate headshot on Hudler. Homer gutless, 90% of the Anaheim tean gutless. Lets move on.

But everyone here can agree that the hockey is great and the series intensity is fantastic.

...wish it were with my team, damnit.

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The ducks receive a ton of major penalties from fighting, not to mention they have questionable calls on them constantly b/c of their reputation. Detroit could literally get a diving call every game if not multiple times a game. Not to mention Lidstrom could honestly be called for interference EVERY shift.

Jesus Christ. Watch the replay. Hostrom never even saw him.

Lidstrom interference every shift. riiiiiight. That's how he got the six freaking Norris Trophies

You are one stupid Ducks homer

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Homer elbowed, Brown diliberate headshot on Hudler.

Not a head shot in ANY way elbow was completely tucked in. Tell your boy to stop admiring his passes. Last I check hitting was legal in the NHL.

Edited May 8, 2009 by ducks4cup

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Jesus Christ. Watch the replay. Hostrom never even saw him.

Lidstrom interference every shift. riiiiiight. That's how he got the six freaking Norris Trophies

You are one stupid Ducks homer

I watched the replay multiple times. No reason for Homer's elbow/ arm to flare up like that. Ohhh and being a hall of fame defense men doesn't mean he can't interfere every shift. Didn't know it was impossible for great players to take (or in his case not take) penalties.