Onsides and Offsides Rule - Control or No Control

[CenterIce 83]

This scenario used to be called offsides, but the league changed the rule a few years back to allow the player, who has control of the puck, to back in.

[Rivalred 630]

I think it is an interesting rule.

[SiLkK19 67]

I think it is an interesting rule.

Yeah it really is.

[drfnr14 0]

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it depends on the player!

crosby-onside

any detroit player-offside

[joshy207 156]

This scenario used to be called offsides, but the league changed the rule a few years back to allow the player, who has control of the puck, to back in.

It's been this way for as long as I can remember....... at least 20 years... and probably much longer than that.

[HOCKEY MATTERS 167]

I don't care what the rules say. It's offsides. Period.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

I don't care what the rules say. It's offsides. Period.

Actually it's not offsides mmmkay. Period.

[HOCKEY MATTERS 167]

Actually it's not offsides mmmkay. Period.

is too.

[kook_10 1,705]

It's been this way for as long as I can remember....... at least 20 years... and probably much longer than that.

what does look to have been changed more recently is that you only have make skate contact blue line to clear the zone. correct me if i am wrong, but i think it used to be all the way out.

[LIDDYGIBBY5 1]

It seems like the puck needs to be in contact with the blade of the stick as the player crosses the line in reverse. Not just handling the puck, but actually have contact with the stick. I remember when that happened with Shanny. Mickey was adamant that it should have been offsides because he was handling the puck when he crossed and the stick wasn't in contact with the puck.

[lars1970 1]

I am surprised that none of you have mentioned that there is no such thing as "offsides" or "onsides". It is Offside and Onside. No "s'" at the end. Just look at the NHL rule link posted earlier. Nit picky maybe, but it is what it is.

Come on people. You are Red Wings fans.

[Rivalred 630]

I don't care what the rules say. It's offsides. Period.

LMAO....

[Rivalred 630]

I am surprised that none of you have mentioned that there is no such thing as "offsides" or "onsides". It is Offside and Onside. No "s'" at the end. Just look at the NHL rule link posted earlier. Nit picky maybe, but it is what it is.

Come on people. You are Red Wings fans.

We are from Michigan, we put an "s" on almost everything. When we go to a store; we do not say we are going to "Meijer"; we say we are going to Meijers"

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

We are from Michigan, we put an "s" on almost everything. When we go to a store; we do not say we are going to "Meijer"; we say we are going to Meijers"

I am utterly defeated if that store is not, in fact, named Meijer's.

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[Jarret_G 0]

It's onside if a player crosses the blue line before the puck and has control of the puck. It is offside if a player enters the zone and does not have control of the puck.

Here's some situations that should lock this thread.

1)A player has the puck and is skating alongside the blue line with it. His feet enter the zone first and then he brings the puck in, that is perfectly fine.

2) An attacking player has both skates in the opponents defensive zone. A pass is sent to him by another player before the blue line. That player takes the pass and then proceeds into the zone. This would be offside as he didn't have control BEFORE entering the zone.

3)An attacking player crosses the blue line with the puck. He then brings the puck back over the blue line into the neutral zone and then back into the attacking zone. OFFSIDE. For a player to remain onside he would have to have at least one skate touch the blue line before the puck could re-enter

4) An attacking player straddling the attacking blue line takes a pass on his stick in the neutral zone. He then brings the skate which was int he neutral zone over the line while the puck is still on his stick in the neutral zone. He then pulls the puck over the blue line. NO OFFSIDE. He had control of the puck as he was crossing the line.

Edited May 12, 2009 by Jarret_G

[ComradeWasabi 109]

It's onside if a player crosses the blue line before the puck and has control of the puck. It is offside if a player enters the zone and does not have control of the puck.

Here's some situations that should lock this thread.

1)A player has the puck and is skating alongside the blue line with it. His feet enter the zone first and then he brings the puck in, that is perfectly fine.

2) An attacking player has both skates in the opponents defensive zone. A pass is sent to him by another player before the blue line. That player takes the pass and then proceeds into the zone. This would be offside as he didn't have control BEFORE entering the zone.

3)An attacking player crosses the blue line with the puck. He then brings the puck back over the blue line into the neutral zone and then back into the attacking zone. OFFSIDE. For a player to remain onside he would have to have at least one skate touch the blue line before the puck could re-enter

4) An attacking player straddling the attacking blue line takes a pass on his stick in the neutral zone. He then brings the skate which was int he neutral zone over the line while the puck is still on his stick in the neutral zone. He then pulls the puck over the blue line. NO OFFSIDE. He had control of the puck as he was crossing the line.

Along with these, another onside moment is when a player drags his skate to stay onside as another forward rushes the puck into the zone. As long as both of the player's skates aren't across the blueline when the puck enters, it is onside.

[Jake Ryan 1]

Here's the one rule I would like to see added to hockey: the ability for the linesman to put both arms in front of him or wave both hands in a foward motion to acknowledge that a player is offside but that the linesman is not blowing the whistle because the player was pushed offside. The referees seem to have a hard time calling interference with this play, and I HATE the fact that the attacking team gets DOUBLE screwed by an offside whistle. Soccer has this signal when a player is fouled but the attacking team is better off not having the play blown dead. They call it "advantage". I wish the NHL would put something like this in as well. It could be used for the player who goes in feet first, as well. The linesman acknowledging that the player has put himself offside, but puck control is determining the continuation of the play without a whistle.

[Doggy 130]

Here's the one rule I would like to see added to hockey: the ability for the linesman to put both arms in front of him or wave both hands in a foward motion to acknowledge that a player is offside but that the linesman is not blowing the whistle because the player was pushed offside. The referees seem to have a hard time calling interference with this play, and I HATE the fact that the attacking team gets DOUBLE screwed by an offside whistle. Soccer has this signal when a player is fouled but the attacking team is better off not having the play blown dead. They call it "advantage". I wish the NHL would put something like this in as well. It could be used for the player who goes in feet first, as well. The linesman acknowledging that the player has put himself offside, but puck control is determining the continuation of the play without a whistle.

The "advantage" concept is used in hockey, it's called "delayed" offside (and penalty).

I don't think I understand your post properly because as I understand, what you're describing does happen. I don't get it.

[CenterIce 83]

It's been this way for as long as I can remember....... at least 20 years... and probably much longer than that.

Nope, it was only changed within the last few years.

[Jarret_G 0]

Nope, it was only changed within the last few years.

The wording was changed within the last few years, the rule has always been the same. A player has always had to have control of the puck before entering the attacking zone. There was a lot of debate over a few things...like the situations in the posts i posted above. The NHL simply clarified what the rule was. Hockey Canada and USA hockey have always had those rules and since all officials have origins in either associations then it really wasn't needed for the NHL to put in the clarification until a few years ago.