RyanK 1 Report post Posted May 11, 2009 The fact that Cleary was even in Hiller's crease in the 1st place, tells me all that I need to know about this series. Whatever intimidation edge the Ducks had 2 years ago is just not there any longer. Take the freakin 2 minutes , whatever , but Cleary should have been picking up some teeth IMO . If i was the coach of this team, they'd be scraping wings off the ice. Ducks problem is that they are trying to beat the wings by playing hockey instead of turning this into a street fight. So apparently the fans over in Anahymen think that the NHL should be the UFC just so they can win games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowingsgo 3 Report post Posted May 11, 2009 Like the Ducks have room to argue, seeing as how we had a goal called off that should have counted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted May 11, 2009 While I'm not defending turing the game into a street-fight, whoever wrote that makes a point. The past few games the Wings have had no problem getting to the net....something that was a massive challenge the first 3 games. They've now invaded Hiller's turf and guys like Pronger aren't doing what they need to do for the Ducks to be successful. Clearing the crease, controlling the front of it, and getting rid of rebounds is what made the Ducks successful earlier in this series. If they aren't able to do that in Game 6, the Wings should win barring bad bounces or poor officiating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zetterbergfan 23 Report post Posted May 11, 2009 They are right. It would take extreme goonery for it to even look like the Ducks have a chance in this series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms_Hockey 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2009 I think I understand the sentiment underneath those comments. They came into this series trying to play Red Wings finesse hockey. When the Red Wings outhit the Ducks - you know something is off with their physical-meter. It's really the same way I feel when we try to play aggressive/physical hockey. It's not that we can't.. it's that we're not good at mixing that in with our finesse game. We tend to lose focus on scoring. It seems to me their general feeling over there is that the Ducks needs to play the physical game that they got here on instead of trying to turn themselves into a Wings finesse clone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turretin 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2009 I know it's not a very descriptive thread title, but this is already being talked about here: http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/index.ph...60&start=60 Not complaining, just thought you might want to read the thoughts there if you wonder what people are thinking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted May 11, 2009 I'm fairly confident those posts were made with the intent of the wanting the Ducks to be more physical and not allow the Wings to get to the net. Most Ducks fans know they don't have the talent to match up against this Wings team. If they're gonna have a chance, they're going to have to keep the Wings away from Hiller. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted May 11, 2009 Like the Ducks have room to argue, seeing as how we had a goal called off that should have counted. They're not complaining about the refereeing, they're complaining that their team is allowing the Wings near the crease without making them pay the price. They're right, too. Cleary was the only player near the goalie and not a single Duck was there bothering to try and remove him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjlegend 155 Report post Posted May 11, 2009 Interesting that they seem to be happy with 17-25 shots on goal, and that all they need to do is crosscheck some Wings to win. Are they mentioning that Getzlaf has to stop worrying about whether Jiri Hudler is diving and either lead his own team on the scoresheet or contribute in some other meaningful way? Watching him beaking Hudler gave me the impression the Ducks' best forward has been thrown way off his game, either by fatigue or frustration. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 Minute Misconduct 104 Report post Posted May 11, 2009 link to ducks forum? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted May 11, 2009 Interesting that they seem to be happy with 17-25 shots on goal, and that all they need to do is crosscheck some Wings to win. Are they mentioning that Getzlaf has to stop worrying about whether Jiri Hudler is diving and either lead his own team on the scoresheet or contribute in some other meaningful way? Watching him beaking Hudler gave me the impression the Ducks' best forward has been thrown way off his game, either by fatigue or frustration. Both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RockyMountainWingGal 108 Report post Posted May 11, 2009 I think you mean "losing" I don't care why they lose as long as the Wings win this series! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted May 11, 2009 They're right. No consistent physical game, whether in front of the net or just in general. Take away the hit on Hudler and what have they really shown? esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anaheim Lucks 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2009 If i was the coach of this team, they'd be scraping wings off the ice. Ducks problem is that they are trying to beat the wings by playing hockey instead of turning this into a street fight. lmao. more like "if i was the coach of this team, i'd have a player in the box every 5 minutes" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms_Hockey 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2009 link to ducks forum? http://forums.anaheimducks.com/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xBrave_Heartx 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2009 So apparently the fans over in Anahymen think that the NHL should be the UFC just so they can win games. Heh, I think they are trying to say, is that the only chance they have to beat the wings, IS to try and intimidate them, so they dont go in the high traffic areas.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antilles328 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2009 They're not complaining about the refereeing, they're complaining that their team is allowing the Wings near the crease without making them pay the price. They're right, too. Cleary was the only player near the goalie and not a single Duck was there bothering to try and remove him. It's a correct call. Basically, they aren't playing the caliber of defense that will allow them to beat the Red Wings. Sunday's game could have easily been 6-1 or 7-1 with all the opportunities we had. The Ducks really need to hold us to 2 or fewer goals a game, if they expect to win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mpitts 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2009 Don't forget that we are also winning because, according to some Duck fans, the NHL wants the Wings to advance and has influence on the games and their outcome. LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjlegend 155 Report post Posted May 11, 2009 Don't forget that we are also winning because, according to some Duck fans, the NHL wants the Wings to advance and has influence on the games and their outcome. LOL So that's why they scheduled Dan O'Hellnodetroit for the pivotal game 5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingNutt 12 Report post Posted May 11, 2009 They're not complaining about the refereeing, they're complaining that their team is allowing the Wings near the crease without making them pay the price. They're right, too. Cleary was the only player near the goalie and not a single Duck was there bothering to try and remove him. oh yeah they are, they are complaining and making excuses and all kinds of crap and the series isn't over yet, some fans already talking about off-season trades and stuff. California is fair weather fan haven. dont know how many saw it, but there was one detroit goal that I believe was a goalie interference against Hiller. You can clearly see on the replay that the reding player (forgot who) had his leg behind Hiller's. and as such (with Hiller being a butterfly goalie), he couldnt defend against the other side. The ref's decision may be final, but it just goes to show the blatant bias of the refs and their willingness to turn a blind eye to the Red Wings penalties. No sense getting all upset. You can't beat the league. They want Detroit, its pretty obvious if you've watchted this entire series and the funny thing is, we knew it going in. Its tough to overcome a very good team that the league wants to advance. All I have to say it is very hard to play with 6 players for the Ducks against 6 Red Wings, 2 linemen and 2 refs. So let's see 6 vs 10...who do you think will win. I have almost given up. As much as I love the Ducks and will be a fan forever, I have just lost all faith in the NHL Officials. The Red Wings get away with murder. It is just not fair. How can you play a fair game with those kind of odds. If I was the Ducks players, I would be completely frustrated. In the first period, Pronger gets a high stick to the head, NO CALL, and the numerous holding, interference, etc and nothing called on Detroit. How can we compete against that? The boys are working so hard out there and nothing to show for it. there are plenty more quotes off their forums off stuff like that If Getzlaf wasn't sick they would have won already etc etc. I rest my case, panicking maybe they are a little and I don't blame them I would be too if I was in there position but don't count your team out of the playoffs because they are down by one game. Go Wings ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrSandMan Report post Posted May 11, 2009 The real answer to why the Mighty Ducks are losing is because they are simply not good enough to compete against the Detroit Red Wings. Just think, Wings are dominating Ducks with out some of our top key players: Rafli: Our 2nd best D-man and PP quarterback. Draper: Selke winner and best face off man (one of our top PKer's) Lilja: The pain train who is our 2nd best PKer D-man. Ducks are just not good enough. Ducks come into this series thinking they were able to compete, because they beat the Sharks... but the Sharks beat themselves. Ducks had momentum, and Red Wings gave the Ducks a wake up call. If our key players were playing head-to-head with this Ducks team, this series would already be over! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turretin 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2009 Series is NOT over. All this relaxed talk is making me nervous. All they have to do is win 1 at the Ponda and this is a single elimination playoff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted May 11, 2009 The Ducks are "loosing" because the Red Wings are better. They'll sleep better at night when they accept that fact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big_Mike 1 Report post Posted May 11, 2009 Series is NOT over. All this relaxed talk is making me nervous. All they have to do is win 1 at the Ponda and this is a single elimination playoff. Well said, even though the Ducks look tired. Let's hope the Wings close this out tomorrow night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingNutt 12 Report post Posted May 11, 2009 Series is NOT over. All this relaxed talk is making me nervous. All they have to do is win 1 at the Ponda and this is a single elimination playoff. you've got a very good point, I'm feeling the same way, all our fans need to stop gloating we haven't won anything yet, we are up by one game just like they were last week, things can turn around very fast, I hope we can win Game 6 don't want any part of a Game 7 against the Ducks. they are down we need to keep them that way Share this post Link to post Share on other sites