TheCapt19 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2009 ***This is not a panic thread, just an observation. Just remember the Pens have to win 3 out of the next 4 games.*** I recall back at the end of the Chicago series that Babcock remarked commenting the other players stepping up. I also sustinctly recall him saying something to the effect of, "...it's great that they step up. However, they can't play like Lidstrom every night. No one can. Only Nick can play like Nick every night." I think Dats is becoming more and more noticable out of the line up. Without him, I think we may very well go back to Motown 2-2. Thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmubronco420 25 Report post Posted June 3, 2009 yep, dats is starting to be very noticeably absent, of course this is just the second loss we've suffered w/out him in the lineup. so it might just seem that way...though i would love to have him back for game 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greene709 27 Report post Posted June 3, 2009 I agree, his possession game is key. Although I do believe we can win without him. A couple of better bounces tonight and we would've won. Hossa needs that edge back, hopefully his game 4 dominance will continue. We're ok for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted June 3, 2009 i say dats plays next game. the wings want to go back to the joe up 3-1. dats will add some fire...and less sloppiness in the d-zone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharomyga 6 Report post Posted June 3, 2009 i say dats plays next game. the wings want to go back to the joe up 3-1. dats will add some fire...and less sloppiness in the d-zone agreed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snazzy 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2009 Lol. hell yeah we can win. Penguins have thrown everything they had at us and still can't compete with us 5 on 5. We ended Chicago's season without Pavs, we sure in hell can put away the one hit wonder in the Penguins team. Wings in 6. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted June 3, 2009 If he does come back, he'll most likely be useless, since he can barely even walk. If you guys are waiting for the Pavel Datsyuk of the regular season to magically suit up for us, it's not going to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inultus 12 Report post Posted June 3, 2009 I think it speaks a lot to the team that we've done so well without Datsyuk. How would Pitts play if Crosby or Malkin were out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snazzy 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2009 I still haven't seen anything impressive in the Penguins team yet. The media keeps telling me how great they are and how they can do this and do that... I'm still waiting. We already put away two better teams. Penguins just don't have it. They're missing something.... but this isn't their year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCapt19 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2009 If he does come back, he'll most likely be useless, since he can barely even walk. Um... not according to Babcock... "They had another look at him today and everything seems to be fine," Detroit coach Mike Babcock said at the team's media session at downtown hotel here this afternoon. http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=424618 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted June 3, 2009 If he does come back, he'll most likely be useless, since he can barely even walk. If you guys are waiting for the Pavel Datsyuk of the regular season to magically suit up for us, it's not going to happen. We know Dats has been injured in some capacity since the regular season, that much has been clear from his shot selection, passing and play with the puck along the boards. He has, however, been our best defensive forward (tied with Z) all post season. The Wings don't need him to come back and score in bunches as much as they need him to come back and hold onto the puck, steal the puck and play amazing on the PK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted June 3, 2009 With Dats in the lineup the nhl doesn't have it's series. He would be Malkin's Zetterberg, and as Geno is as bad with giveaways as Datsyuk is good at takeaways, Osgood would've had two more shutouts and most likely a win tonight, but that's just speculation. No point wondering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted June 3, 2009 If we can't win the cup with the roster we have right now, then we can't win it with Datsyuk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShanahanMan 473 Report post Posted June 3, 2009 The team that wins game 4 will prob. win the series. They're the team that will return to Detroit with all the momentum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted June 3, 2009 Um... not according to Babcock... "They had another look at him today and everything seems to be fine," Detroit coach Mike Babcock said at the team's media session at downtown hotel here this afternoon. http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=424618 Even if that's true, he won't be playing at 100%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCapt19 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2009 Agreed he won't be at 100% but I'd take him at 80% just for the defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2009 I don't see how they can keep Dats out of the line up any longer. It's clear that his defensive prowess is badly needed. His face off ability isn't too shabby either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted June 3, 2009 He'll probably be ready to suit up for game 8. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedwingsPwn 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2009 If he does come back, he'll most likely be useless, since he can barely even walk. If you guys are waiting for the Pavel Datsyuk of the regular season to magically suit up for us, it's not going to happen. Darren Dreger from TSN said that he was limping noticably before game 2 but he said that Datsyuk looks significantly better since he first saw him. So i am optimistic that he will come back either game 4 or 5 ... hopefully. We can still win. Hossa with 2 goals next game again. GO WINGS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LidsFan 68 Report post Posted June 3, 2009 I am hoping that Babcock, will replace Maltby with Draper for game four. And if Pavel thinks that he can play, I say let him. Even if he is not 100% he will probably still be better than some of the players who are not doing much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wombat 26 Report post Posted June 3, 2009 Lidstrom is the only player on the Detroit team that this question makes sense for, at least to me. the Wings can win without Datsyuk. they could lose too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCapt19 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2009 Lidstrom is the only player on the Detroit team that this question makes sense for, at least to me. the Wings can win without Datsyuk. they could lose too. I'm referring specifically to this series. I know we can win without Dats. The question was posed regarding his defensive prowess and how its influence is becoming noticably absent as this series goes on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stiffy 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2009 We know Dats has been injured in some capacity since the regular season, that much has been clear from his shot selection, passing and play with the puck along the boards. He has, however, been our best defensive forward (tied with Z) all post season. The Wings don't need him to come back and score in bunches as much as they need him to come back and hold onto the puck, steal the puck and play amazing on the PK. Absatootely. If he doesn't so much as make a shot, he will still help us in a huge way. Okay, I exaggerate a little. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maltbymaniac 13 Report post Posted June 3, 2009 for sure,but i would just rather have him in.has to be a bummer not playin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRW Dominance 255 Report post Posted June 3, 2009 Dats is huge because Zetter is going to be exhausted. We need someone to match Malkin badly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites