crazy13 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2009 http://www.capgeek.com/ You make the team!! can we really fit hossa under the cap??????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evanbartlett 6 Report post Posted June 7, 2009 thanks for the link. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 (edited) Assuming no players retire and NTC are waived if necessary: Datsyuk $6,700,000 Zetterberg $6,083,333 Hossa $6,000,000 Franzen $3,954,545 Filppula $3,000,000 Holmstrom $2,250,000 Hudler $1,800,000 Draper $1,583,333 Leino $1,000,000 Maltby $883,333 Helm $599,444 Kopecky $575,000 Lidstrom $7,450,000 Rafalski $6,000,000 Kronwall $3,000,000 Lilja $1,250,000 Ericsson $900,000 Lebda $650,000 Meech $483,333 Osgood $1,416,667 Howard $716,667 Edited June 8, 2009 by eva unit zero Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheOwl 77 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 ^ After these mediocre play-offs by the passenger Hossa, why would you take him over Stuart. Don't you think that 6 million could be much better spent on a guy who can actually score? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLWINGSFAN4013 5 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 stuart has played pretty darn well and is not going anywhere Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flip 5 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 ^ After these mediocre play-offs by the passenger Hossa, why would you take him over Stuart. Don't you think that 6 million could be much better spent on a guy who can actually score? Great point. That bum only scored 40 goals in the regular season. I've seen you rail against Hossa on more than one occasion. Did he not sign your puck one night or something? Grow up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Booster313 138 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 (edited) Don't take it personal on this board it's what have you done for me lately. That doesn't mean I think we should get rid of Stu (or anyone else for that matter) to keep Hossa. I love Hossa but it's a tough decision and one I am glad I don't have to make. Edited June 8, 2009 by Booster313 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flip 5 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 Don't take it personal on this board it's what have you done for me lately. He's not even playing poorly. He's doing everything but scoring and the Wings are winning. Babcock said the exact same thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Booster313 138 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 I agree, Hossa has played really well most nights, there were a couple where he looked really slow but I think like a lot of Wings he has an injury he is playing through. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lidstrom for life 20 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 We will definately have to trade/release a defenseman because even if Cheli is gone we will have 8 and even if we don't resign Hossa I dont think we can keep 8 defenseman. It sucks but either Hossa, Rafalski, Kronwall or Stuart won't be on this team next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casey 145 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 Assuming Maltby and Homer retire: 2009-2010 Detroit Red Wings FORWARDS Pavel Datsyuk $6,700,000 Henrik Zetterberg $6,083,333 Johan Franzen $3,954,545 Valtteri Filppula $3,000,000 Daniel Cleary $2,800,000 Kris Draper $1,583,333 Mikael Samuelsson $1,200,000 Jiri Hudler $1,015,000 Ville Leino $875,000 Justin Abdelkader $850,000 Darren Helm $599,444 Aaron Downey $500,000 DEFENSEMEN Nicklas Lidstrom $7,450,000 Brian Rafalaski $6,000,000 Brad Stuart $3,750,000 Niklas Kronwall $3,000,000 Andreas Lilja $1,250,000 Jonathan Ericsson $900,000 Chris Chelios $750,000 Derek Meech $483,333 GOALTENDERS Chris Osgood $1,416,666 Ty Conklin $750,000 Gives 1.78M to play with for raises and the like, and keeps this team strong for the long haul. Yeah, Cheli's still in there, pretty much as a depth pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslionstigers 12 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 iri Hudler $1,015,000 Hudler for 1 mill? Doubt it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 Minute Misconduct 104 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 i can guarantee u that stuart isnt going anywhere! neither is kronwall or rafalski. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dano33 41 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 Don't forget, the roster needs 22 players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 Minute Misconduct 104 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 (edited) i dont think conklin will be back for only 750k next year either. EDIT: i think its quite foolish for ppl to assume that maltby and holmstrom will retire when thats not happening Edited June 8, 2009 by 10 Minute Misconduct Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joshy207 156 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 Don't forget, the roster needs 22 players. There are 23 roster spots, but not all have to be filled. I don't think the Wings will be able to carry more than 21 players (with everyone healthy) next year. They may even have to go with 20 just to fit under the cap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 Minute Misconduct 104 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 hmmm seems like theres no room for hossa if u wanna keep a good D corpse and depth up front. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 (edited) Pavel Datsyuk $6,700,000 Henrik Zetterberg $6,083,333 Johan Franzen $3,954,545 Marian Hossa $3,950,000 Valtteri Filppula $3,000,000 Daniel Cleary $2,800,000 Jiri Hudler $1,400,000 Ville Leino $1,000,000 Kirk Maltby $883,333 Mikael Samuelsson $850,000 Justin Abdelkader $850,000 Darren Helm $599,444 DEFENSEMEN Nicklas Lidstrom $7,450,000 Brian Rafalaski $6,000,000 Brad Stuart $3,750,000 Niklas Kronwall $3,000,000 Andreas Lilja $1,250,000 Jonathan Ericsson $900,000 GOALTENDERS Chris Osgood $1,416,666 Jimmy Howard $716,666 Edited June 8, 2009 by Shaman464 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 hmmm seems like theres no room for hossa if u wanna keep a good D corpse and depth up front. Basically what has been said from the moment we signed him lol, well, at least by the people who understand the cap and the long-term ramifications of re-signing Hossa to anything over 3MM cap hit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 Pavel Datsyuk $6,700,000 Henrik Zetterberg $6,083,333 Johan Franzen $3,954,545 Marian Hossa $3,950,000 Valtteri Filppula $3,000,000 Daniel Cleary $2,800,000 Jiri Hudler $1,400,000 Ville Leino $1,000,000 Kirk Maltby $883,333 Mikael Samuelsson $850,000 Justin Abdelkader $850,000 Darren Helm $599,444 DEFENSEMEN Nicklas Lidstrom $7,450,000 Brian Rafalaski $6,000,000 Brad Stuart $3,750,000 Niklas Kronwall $3,000,000 Andreas Lilja $1,250,000 Jonathan Ericsson $900,000 GOALTENDERS Chris Osgood $1,416,666 Jimmy Howard $716,666 I see you went with the bare minimum of players and a very nice low cap hit to hossa to boot, how generous of him . And don't forget, even if Draper retires his cap hit still counts against us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frederick9125 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 Malts, Draps, Rafi retire 2009-2010 Detroit Red Wings FORWARDS Pavel Datsyuk $6,700,000 Henrik Zetterberg $6,083,333 Marian Hossa $5,000,000 Johan Franzen $3,954,545 Valtteri Filppula $3,000,000 Daniel Cleary $2,800,000 Tomas Holmstrom $2,250,000 Bill Guerin $2,000,000 Jiri Hudler $1,015,000 Ville Leino $875,000 Justin Abdelkader $850,000 Darren Helm $599,444 DEFENSEMEN Nicklas Lidstrom $7,450,000 Brad Stuart $3,750,000 Niklas Kronwall $3,000,000 Hal Gill $1,500,000 Andreas Lilja $1,250,000 Jonathan Ericsson $900,000 Jakub Kindl $821,666 GOALTENDERS Chris Osgood $1,416,666 Jimmy Howard $716,666 BUYOUTS ETC. NONE CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS ROSTER SIZE 21 BONUS MONEY (0% of cap) $0 SALARY CAP $56,700,000 PAYROLL $55,932,320 CAP ROOM $767,680 « EDIT THIS ROSTER » Comments, suggestions and corrections? E-mail admin@capgee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heikks86 21 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 Malts, Draps, Rafi retire 2009-2010 Detroit Red Wings FORWARDS Pavel Datsyuk $6,700,000 Henrik Zetterberg $6,083,333 Marian Hossa $5,000,000 Johan Franzen $3,954,545 Valtteri Filppula $3,000,000 Daniel Cleary $2,800,000 Tomas Holmstrom $2,250,000 Bill Guerin $2,000,000 Jiri Hudler $1,015,000 Ville Leino $875,000 Justin Abdelkader $850,000 Darren Helm $599,444 DEFENSEMEN Nicklas Lidstrom $7,450,000 Brad Stuart $3,750,000 Niklas Kronwall $3,000,000 Hal Gill $1,500,000 Andreas Lilja $1,250,000 Jonathan Ericsson $900,000 Jakub Kindl $821,666 GOALTENDERS Chris Osgood $1,416,666 Jimmy Howard $716,666 BUYOUTS ETC. NONE CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS ROSTER SIZE 21 BONUS MONEY (0% of cap) $0 SALARY CAP $56,700,000 PAYROLL $55,932,320 CAP ROOM $767,680 « EDIT THIS ROSTER » Comments, suggestions and corrections? E-mail admin@capgee Why would Rafi retire, and seriously Bill Guerin and Hal Gill, why in the hel would the Wings sign Gill. Gill is freaking terrible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frederick9125 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 Why would Rafi retire, and seriously Bill Guerin and Hal Gill, why in the hel would the Wings sign Gill. Gill is freaking terrible to piss off pitts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 Malts, Draps, Rafi retire 2009-2010 Detroit Red Wings FORWARDS Pavel Datsyuk $6,700,000 Henrik Zetterberg $6,083,333 Marian Hossa $5,000,000 Johan Franzen $3,954,545 Valtteri Filppula $3,000,000 Daniel Cleary $2,800,000 Tomas Holmstrom $2,250,000 Bill Guerin $2,000,000 Jiri Hudler $1,015,000 Ville Leino $875,000 Justin Abdelkader $850,000 Darren Helm $599,444 DEFENSEMEN Nicklas Lidstrom $7,450,000 Brad Stuart $3,750,000 Niklas Kronwall $3,000,000 Hal Gill $1,500,000 Andreas Lilja $1,250,000 Jonathan Ericsson $900,000 Jakub Kindl $821,666 GOALTENDERS Chris Osgood $1,416,666 Jimmy Howard $716,666 Rafalski won't retire...Meech will be on the roster and Kindl will still be in Grand Rapids. And you have HAL GILL on the Wings' roster?? For $1.5m? One, he'll get a better offer elsewhere because of his size. Two, he is the exact opposite of the Wings' system...he's slow, can't handle the puck, and his defense is primarily based on hitting the puck carrier (or someone else) rather than blocking lanes and preventing shots. Guerin and Gill will stay in Pittsburgh, probably for more than you listed them for here. Look for Samuelsson to come back instead of Guerin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MississippiWing 14 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 actually on my roster I had Rafi retiring. I just kinda get the sense that if we win it all this year, this may be his last go around. I mean what else is there to do for him. He's at the peak of his game. He's still got it but occasionally his age shows a little. I mean what does he have to look forward to hanging around until everyone on this board starts bitching at him about missing assignments because he's "lost a step" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
