wingsownnhl43 14 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 I dont know if anyone else has brought this up about Hossa signing with Chicago yet, but I was looking at their depth chart on capgeek.com and I noticed that Jonathan Toews, Patrick Kane and Duncan Keith are all set to be RFAs next season. I dont expect them to get anything less than 5 mil/per as free agents or through arbitration. Did they just sign Hossa at the expense of a Toews or a Patrick Kane? Or is Hossa the one who made the mistake for not looking into this? If Chicago really gets in a bind, could it be possible that they deal Hossa at 5.2? I could see a bottom feeder giving a pretty penny for him at a reasonable cap hit. Or is the GM just going to magically make this all work? Itll be interesting for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrazyGangsta 79 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 Patience my friend ... Your going to love the ride. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Big Red Machine 0 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 They're thinking Chicago Blackhawks, 2010 Stanley Cup Champions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben_usmc 253 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 They're thinking Chicago Blackhawks, 2010 Stanley Cup Champions. with Huet and Campbell still on the team.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 Joel Quenneville coaches their team. That should calm your fears. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pat 44 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 They will trade hossa to wings, holland arranged this. Wings will have 12m in cap space after next season and 7m of it to lids. Leaving around 5m left for the great hoss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EuroTwin 240 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 (edited) I believe Seabrook is a RFA or UFA the year after that as well. This is going to be amusing. eta: Joel Quenneville coaches their team. That should calm your fears. Yes, this times 1000. Whenever I think of the Hawks, there is usually a LOL QUENNEVILLE thought in there that always brings a smile to my face. Edited July 2, 2009 by EuroTwin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Big Red Machine 0 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 with Huet and Campbell still on the team.... I never said I believed it, but that's what they are thinking. You don't go spending this kind of cash with any other thought in your head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 the depression in chicago is on it's way again. after next year, let the rebuilding begin again. bolland just got a hefty raise as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsownnhl43 14 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 (edited) Joel Quenneville coaches their team. That should calm your fears. I have absolutely no fear about Chicago. I was merely pointing out that this could be a huge blunder of a signing if it means they lose Kane or Toews as a result. I think this would have been a good signing if it puts them over the top. If winning a championship means losing one of your star players, then it works. But they gained Marian Hossa and lost Kabibulan and Havlat. I dont think Hossa would do that much better than Havlat in a 7 game series against the winged wheelers. Edited July 2, 2009 by wingsownnhl43 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 All I know is that Hossa with that contract is great trade bait if need be. Other then that they really are going for it all next year, they'll have to pull out so good moves to keep the face of the team intact the next coming years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 2009-2010 CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS FORWARDS Marian Hossa $5,233,333 Patrick Sharp $3,900,000 Patrick Kane $3,725,000 Dave Bolland $3,375,000 Dustin Byfuglien $3,000,000 Jonathan Toews $2,800,000 John Madden $2,750,000 Andrew Ladd $1,550,000 Jack Skille $1,275,000 Tomas Kopecky $1,200,000 Jake Dowell $725,000 Adam Burish $712,500 * Troy Brouwer $675,000 * Colin Fraser $500,000 * Kris Versteeg $491,000 DEFENSEMEN Brian Campbell $7,142,875 Brent Seabrook $3,500,000 * Cam Barker $2,751,000 Brent Sopel $2,333,333 Duncan Keith $1,475,000 Niklas Hjalmarsson $643,333 GOALTENDERS Cristobal Huet $5,625,000 Antti Niemi $892,500 BUYOUTS Curtis Brown $456,000 LOST VIA REENTRY WAIVERS NONE CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (INCLUDING BONUSES) ROSTER SIZE 23 SALARY CAP $56,800,000 PAYROLL $56,730,874 BONUS MONEY (ESTIMATED) (9.2% of cap) $5,225,000 CAP ROOM $69,126 CAP ROOM PER OPEN SPOT $0 this is with no raise for the ufa's using capgeek. should be fun being the hawks gm next july. though, kane and toews already make decent money, but will be getting raises. probably 5mil needs to be trimmed next offseason, or hossa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pat 44 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 I honestly think it's a possibility that hossa is on his way back at some point. Eventually chicago will have to make big decisions and the two young guns were there first. I respect hossa for not signing with a non contender and being loyal to the wings in his conference call today. It's gonna take from now until next season to get over it tho... this is a real big stinger.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 They're thinking Chicago Blackhawks, 2010 Stanley Cup Champions. I swear to god they think they are. Talking with some of there fans and they think there all the sudden favored to win the West. They think that Wings, Ducks are not good anymore after what has happened today. They also told me that Hossa wants to be paired with Towes and Kane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,962 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 They will trade hossa to wings, holland arranged this. Wings will have 12m in cap space after next season and 7m of it to lids. Leaving around 5m left for the great hoss. ^This! although I think Lids will re-sign for more like $5m himself. The we get Hossa for 11 years at a lessor contract than the $6m he wanted! What a genius Holland is! (well unless he makes that one mistake this offseason) Shhhh, cannot mention any names.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Big Red Machine 0 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 I swear to god they think they are. Talking with some of there fans and they think there all the sudden favored to win the West. They think that Wings, Ducks are not good anymore after what has happened today. They also told me that Hossa wants to be paired with Towes and Kane. That's a ridiculous waste of their talent to pair them all together. Oh, what bandwagon fans will say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 That's a ridiculous waste of their talent to pair them all together. Oh, what bandwagon fans will say. Now there telling me this... Well i think they have a trade or 2 to be made, they are allowed to go as far as 5% over the cap until a certen say in September i believe, so they have worked it perfectly so far Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winged_Wheeler 3 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 I know it's hard to believe it, but I very well think our chances are still great. Look... Hossa is gone, that's going to change a lot of things in terms of how players will HAVE to play. Zetterberg is going to have to step up, 40+ goals Franzen is going to have to score 40+ goals Cleary has to step up his play in the regular season to ensure we win games, he's fantastic in the playoffs. Filppula is going to have to play a bigger role, Number 2 center and is expected to break out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Big Red Machine 0 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 Now there telling me this... Well i think they have a trade or 2 to be made, they are allowed to go as far as 5% over the cap until a certen say in September i believe, so they have worked it perfectly so far The Hawks need to trade Huet and Campbell, but no one is going to take on their horrible contracts. They are done with their trading. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 The Hawks need to trade Huet and Campbell, but no one is going to take on their horrible contracts. They are done with their trading. Agree, I am trying to tell them that there primetime is going to come to an end fast when they got no more cap space for these players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 I should add that they think our 3rd and 4th lines are going to not be very strong. There saying it will be youth, physical, speed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Big Red Machine 0 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 I should add that they think our 3rd and 4th lines are going to not be very strong. There saying it will be youth, physical, speed. At least we have a goalie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 (edited) At least we have a goalie. And I don't think our 3rd and 4th lines are that bad. They won't be studs out on the ice but will get the job done. EDIT: Who is there goalie now? Edited July 2, 2009 by HadThomasVokounOnFortSt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Big Red Machine 0 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 And I don't think our 3rd and 4th lines are that bad. They won't be studs out on the ice but will get the job done. EDIT: Who is there goalie now? Huet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878 Report post Posted July 2, 2009 Huet. Is he even good, never really heard of the guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
