StevieY'sguy 1 Report post Posted September 23, 2009 I was bored so I decided to make a list of one or two players in the history of each organization that is the pride of that organization. Not necessarily the best players ever on for each team but a player who is the first one to come to one's mind when thinking about the history of an organization, in most cases players have spent most or at least the best years of their career with this team. See what you guys think! Anaheim- Paul Kariya Atlanta- Ilya Kovalchuk Boston- Bobby Orr Buffalo- Gilbert Perreault Calgary- Jarome Iginla Carolina/Hartford- Ron Francis Chicago- Bobby Hull Colorado - Joe Sakic Columbus- Rick Nash Dallas- Mike Modano Detroit- Steve Yzerman (neck and neck with Gordie in my mind but got the edge because Gordie played a yearw/ Hartford) Edmonton- Wayne Gretzky Florida- John Vanbiesbrouck Los Angeles- Marcel Dionne Minnesota- Marian Gaborik Montreal- Maurice Richard Nashville- David Legwand New Jersey- Martin Brodeur New York Islanders- Mike Bossy/ Bryan Trottier New York Rangers- Mark Messier Ottawa- Daniel Alfredsson Philly- Bobby Clarke Phoenix/Winnipeg- Dale Hawerchuk Pittsburgh- Mario Lemieux San Jose- Owen Nolan St. Louis- Brett Hull Tampa Bay- Vincent Lecavalier Toronto- Dave Keon Vancouver- Trevor Linden Washington- Rod Langway/ Peter Bondra Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lamothe 5 Report post Posted September 23, 2009 I'd include Borque on Boston as well. Rest looks pretty good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted September 23, 2009 Buffalo- Dominik Hasek Calgary- Al MacInnis Detroit- Gordie Howe Montreal- Jean Beliveau New York Islanders- Denis Potvin New York Rangers- Rod Gilbert Toronto- Turk Broda I'd agree with the rest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted September 23, 2009 I would rate Teemu Selanne over Paul Kariya. Maybe it's bias, maybe not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted September 23, 2009 (edited) Gordie Howe has to be the Detroit choice. As someone on the Philly radio broadcast of last night's game said-- Howe was the Babe Ruth of hockey. EDIT: I'd also change the Calgary choice to Fluery since he was so critical to their only cup win and he also has the best PPG ratio. Edited September 23, 2009 by Drake_Marcus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted September 23, 2009 I'm not sure I would say Dave Keon with Toronto since theres all that bad blood between them. Not sure who I would say higher then him though. CLark or Gilmore perhaps? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted September 23, 2009 I'd also change the Calgary choice to Fluery since he was so critical to their only cup win and he also has the best PPG ratio. Fleury was a rookie the year they won the cup I believe, he wasn't that crutial. There were far more important players that year, like Gilmour, Mullen, Otto, etc. THE most important player in their cup run was MacInnis and he's my pick for them. He had 31 pts that playoff season (compare that to Fleury's 11). Fleury's ppg stat with Calgary is only slightly better than MacInnis's, but MacInnis is also a defenseman. However, the best ppg in team history was probably Nilsson. For Chicago, I'd throw Stan Mikita's name out there, he played a lot of years with them and I believe he never played anywhere else. Him and Hull played around the same time and I believe Mikita edges him in both points and awards, although both have a lot of each. Also, Hull wasn't there as long and played elsewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted September 23, 2009 id say Gordie Howe for detroit Rod Gilbert for NY, mess came to NY in the latter half of his career, won one cup, and otherwise helmed a series of dissapointing teams loaded with talent. I might do Selanne over Kariya. For Washington i'd have to go with Ovechkin. No player has ever meant more to that organization than he does now, and after that contract he signed, he is going to be with them for a long time. How about doing a list of current players/teams. Nowadays it seems like a lot of teams have more than one star franchise player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted September 23, 2009 You might consider Ratelle or Leetch as the better "Ranger", although Messier was the best all-time of the bunch. Also, Ovechkin is close to already being the best Capital. Maybe Hasek as the best Sabre. The list was very good, though, and hard to debate against. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lidstromboli Report post Posted September 23, 2009 i think mikko koviu will probably end up being minnesota's flagship player after some time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted September 23, 2009 Calgary- Mike Vernon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted September 23, 2009 Fleury was a rookie the year they won the cup I believe, he wasn't that crutial. There were far more important players that year, like Gilmour, Mullen, Otto, etc. THE most important player in their cup run was MacInnis and he's my pick for them. He had 31 pts that playoff season (compare that to Fleury's 11). Fleury's ppg stat with Calgary is only slightly better than MacInnis's, but MacInnis is also a defenseman. However, the best ppg in team history was probably Nilsson. For Chicago, I'd throw Stan Mikita's name out there, he played a lot of years with them and I believe he never played anywhere else. Him and Hull played around the same time and I believe Mikita edges him in both points and awards, although both have a lot of each. Also, Hull wasn't there as long and played elsewhere. Didn't he score a series winning goal or something like that? Whatever, I'm not an expert on Calgary. I'd have said Lanny McDonald because he's so damn cool, but he played for Colorado and the Leafs as well, so it probably wouldn't fly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted September 23, 2009 Anaheim - Paul Kariya / J.S. Giguere Atlanta - Ilya Kovalchuk Boston - Bobby Orr / Eddie Shore Buffalo - Gilbert Perreault / Pat LaFontaine Calgary - Jarome Iginla / Lanny McDonald Carolina/Hartford - Ron Francis Chicago - Bobby Hull / Glenn Hall Cleveland / Oakland - Ted Hampson Colorado - Joe Sakic / Patrick Roy Columbus - Rick Nash Dallas / Minnesota - Mike Modano Detroit - Gordie Howe / Steve Yzerman Edmonton - Wayne Gretzky / Mark Messier Florida - John Vanbiesbrouck / Roberto Luongo Los Angeles - Wayne Gretzky / Marcel Dionne Minnesota - Marian Gaborik Montreal - Maurice Richard / Guy Lafleur Nashville - David Legwand New Jersey / Colorado / Kansas City - Martin Brodeur / Scott Stevens New York Islanders - Mike Bossy / Denis Potvin New York Rangers - Mark Messier / Jean Ratelle Ottawa - Daniel Alfredsson Philadelphia - Bobby Clarke / Eric Lindros Phoenix / Winnipeg - Dale Hawerchuk / Keith Tkachuk Pittsburgh - Mario Lemieux / Sidney Crosby San Jose - Owen Nolan / Joe Thornton St. Louis - Chris Pronger / Brett Hull Tampa Bay - Vincent Lecavalier / Martin St. Louis Toronto - Darryl Sittler / Syl Apps Vancouver - Trevor Linden / Pavel Bure Washington - Alex Ovechkin / Peter Bondra Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevieY'sguy 1 Report post Posted September 23, 2009 You might consider Ratelle or Leetch as the better "Ranger", although Messier was the best all-time of the bunch. Also, Ovechkin is close to already being the best Capital. Maybe Hasek as the best Sabre. The list was very good, though, and hard to debate against. Thank you, as for all of the suggestions, most of the ones that have been suggested i had thought about and had some tough decisions to make but i tried to keep it down to one for most of the teams. Calgary, NYR, Toronto, Montreal and Detroit were probably the hardest decisions for me. Calgary for me was a toss up between MacInnis, Fleury, Mcdonald and Iginla with some thought of Vernon but in the end I gave it to Iginla on the tiebreaker that he's played there his entire career. The Rangers was neck and neck for me between Leetch and Messier, they both played a big part in the Rangers Cup win and although cheap because Leetch played there longer, I gave it to Messier because in the ECF he said he would score a hat trick against the Devils and he actually did it, which in my mind is one of the most improbable moments in hockey lol. Toronto- I gave it to Keon over Dougie Gilmour because Keon won a Conn Smythe and 4 cups, while Gilmour didn't win any during his time there. Montreal i wavered between The Rocket, Beliveau, and Lafleur...Jean had the most Cups, Guy had the most goals but Maurice was really the first "It" player in NHL history so that's why i decided on him. Detroit- I really should have put Gordie on there, to be honest even I am critical of my reasoning that he played a year with the Whalers, in retrospect i would like to add Gordie to the list. Also as far as Ovechkin goes I agree that if i were to do this list again in 2-3 years barring something catastrophic he would be the Capitals representative but Bondra stayed with the Capitals through 15 mostly crappy years and i respect him for that, his edge in years barely beat out Ovie...although that won't be the case for long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poxer 0 Report post Posted September 23, 2009 The list and suggestions look pretty good but whenever I think of Washington I always think of Kolzig and Ovechkin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted September 24, 2009 (edited) I just made a list and put the first person from each team that popped into my head. Anaheim - Chris Pronger Atlanta - Ilya Kovalchuk Boston - Cam Neely Buffalo - Alexander Mogilny Calgary - Theo Fluery Carolina/Hartford - Chris Pronger Chicago - Jeremy Roenick Colorado - Joe Sakic Columbus - Rick Nash Dallas / Minnesota - Mike Modano Detroit - Steve Yzerman Edmonton - Wayne Gretzky Florida - John Vanbiesbrouck Los Angeles - Wayne Gretzky Minnesota - Marian Gaborik Montreal - Patrick Roy Nashville - David Legwand New Jersey - Scott Stevens New York Islanders - Brian Trottier New York Rangers - Brian Leech Ottawa - Alexi Yashin Philadelphia - Eric Lindros Phoenix / Winnipeg - Keith Tkachuk Pittsburgh - Mario Lemieux San Jose - Owen Nolan St. Louis - Brett Hull Tampa Bay - Martin St. Louis Toronto - Doug Gilmour Vancouver - Trevor Linden Washington - Alex Ovechkin Edited September 24, 2009 by Broken 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Selke13 0 Report post Posted September 24, 2009 For Chicago, I'd throw Stan Mikita's name out there, he played a lot of years with them and I believe he never played anywhere else. Him and Hull played around the same time and I believe Mikita edges him in both points and awards, although both have a lot of each. Also, Hull wasn't there as long and played elsewhere. I agree about mikita, he also still lives in chicago and is very much involved in the team. not like ted lindsey, but he does some commercials for the hawks. since the hawks became relevant, theyve also brought old players back to commemorate and hes always there for that. hes a player that hawk fans will never forget. as for hull, all i remember about him is a big shot, a drinker, and a wife beater. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted September 24, 2009 I just made a list and put the first person from each team that popped into my head. Anaheim - Chris Pronger Atlanta - Ilya Kovalchuk Boston - Cam Neely Buffalo - Alexander Mogilny Calgary - Theo Fluery Carolina/Hartford - Chris Pronger Chicago - Jeremy Roenick Colorado - Joe Sakic Columbus - Rick Nash Dallas / Minnesota - Mike Modano Detroit - Steve Yzerman Edmonton - Wayne Gretzky Florida - John Vanbiesbrouck Los Angeles - Wayne Gretzky Minnesota - Marian Gaborik Montreal - Patrick Roy Nashville - David Legwand New Jersey - Scott Stevens New York Islanders - Brian Trottier New York Rangers - Brian Leech Ottawa - Alexi Yashin Philadelphia - Eric Lindros Phoenix / Winnipeg - Keith Tkachuk Pittsburgh - Mario Lemieux San Jose - Owen Nolan St. Louis - Brett Hull Tampa Bay - Martin St. Louis Toronto - Doug Gilmour Vancouver - Trevor Linden Washington - Alex Ovechkin Wow, you've got a thing for Chris Pronger, huh? I forgot all about his days in Hartford. It does sound like a good idea, so maybe I'll try to see who's the first that pops into my head. Kind of like those psychiatry tests. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted September 24, 2009 Wow, you've got a thing for Chris Pronger, huh? I forgot all about his days in Hartford. It does sound like a good idea, so maybe I'll try to see who's the first that pops into my head. Kind of like those psychiatry tests. I used to have a hockey card from when he was with the Whalers. That's probably why he popped into my head for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedisappearer 291 Report post Posted September 24, 2009 Yzerman would say Howe deserves it for Detroit, so I vote that wat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted September 24, 2009 I can't believe no one has suggested Belvieau for Montreal yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MotorCityMadness 388 Report post Posted September 24, 2009 Anaheim- Paul Kariya Atlanta- Ilya Kovalchuk Boston- Bobby Orr/ Cam Neely Buffalo- Dominik Hasek/ Pat LaFontaine Calgary- Lanny McDonald/ Theo Fleury Carolina/Hartford- Ron Francis Chicago- Bobby Hull/ Stan Mikita Colorado / Quebec - Joe Sakic/ Peter Stasny/ Anton Stasny Columbus- Rick Nash Dallas- Mike Modano Detroit- Steve Yzerman/ Gordie Howe/ Terry Sawchuk/ Nicklas Lidstrom Edmonton- Wayne Gretzky/ Grant Fuhr Florida- John Vanbiesbrouck Los Angeles- Marcel Dionne / Luc Robitaille/ Rob Blake Minnesota- Marian Gaborik/ Dino Ciccarelli (North Stars) Montreal- Maurice Richard/ Guy Lafleur/ Jean Beliveau Nashville- David Legwand/ Jason Arnott New Jersey- Martin Brodeur/ Scott Stevens New York Islanders- Mike Bossy/ Bryan Trottier/ Denis Potvin/Bob Nystrom/ J.P. Parise (he was my coach in Bantams) New York Rangers- Mark Messier/ Brian Leetch/ Mike Richter Ottawa- Daniel Alfredsson Philly- Bobby Clarke/ Eric Lindros/ John LeClair Phoenix/Winnipeg- Dale Hawerchuk/ Teemu Selanne Pittsburgh- Mario Lemieux San Jose- Owen Nolan/ Arturs Irbe St. Louis- Brett Hull/ Al Maccinis Tampa Bay- Vincent Lecavalier Toronto- Dave Keon/ Felix Potvin/ Mats Sundin Vancouver- Trevor Linden/ Pavel Bure Washington- Rod Langway/ Peter Bondra/ Olaf Kolzig Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted September 24, 2009 I can't believe no one has suggested Belvieau for Montreal yet. I did. Post no.3. Beliveau was better than Richard imho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted September 24, 2009 Weird that people are listing guys like Pronger and Giguere for Anaheim over Selanne. Like Kariya I still can partly agree but not these weird suggestions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted September 24, 2009 Calgary for me was a toss up between MacInnis, Fleury, Mcdonald and Iginla with some thought of Vernon but in the end I gave it to Iginla on the tiebreaker that he's played there his entire career. I could have sworn seeing Iggy in a Stars sweater somewhere in the foggy past. So I looked it up and indeed he was drafted by the Stars. They must have traded him at some point prior to him making his NHL debut. But I swear I saw him on the ice in a Dallas sweater. Preseason maybe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
