Guest Four Report post Posted October 28, 2009 After Ovie and Artyukhin's 'slew-foot' hits, the league has followed up by suspending Ott for a hip check and fining Scuderi for a hip check. http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=503701 http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=503723 Next the players will get fined and suspended for bruising players when hitting them >.> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted October 28, 2009 I don't have a problem with these. Ott is just a ***** so I could care less with what ever happens to him, and Scuderi certainly isn't a dirty player, but that hit was extremely low and I love hip checks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Four Report post Posted October 28, 2009 Scuderi's was the only one out of all 4 that I would consider dirty because of how low he went, the other 3 don't seem that bad at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted October 28, 2009 ...this just in from the NHL, if you're a marquee player you get an automatic recinding of suspension because your team cannot win without you and heck, and besides, isn't the world tired of those "other guys" winnng all the time? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted October 28, 2009 I didn't see Scuderi's, but I thought Ott's was certainly penalty worthy, not so much a suspension. But you know the NHL, you gotta protect players' knees. Their brains however, are fair game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted October 28, 2009 I have never seen someone get so low to the ice to make a check. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hack & Whack Rule! 160 Report post Posted October 28, 2009 Scuderi was practically sitting on the ice. He was pretty low, so that one to me is questionable. A judgement call. Chimera got f***ed up on the landing, though. Maybe that's why the reaction from the brass. I saw nothing wrong with Ott's hit. Yeah, he was low, but he wasn't down at knee level with his hip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted October 28, 2009 Scuderi deserved a fine, he screwed that hipcheck up, he didn't even hit chimera wiht his hip, you should be punished if you cant control yourself when going for a hipcheck. THe ott one was fine Colaiacovo like always puts himself in a vulnerable position to get another injury. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted October 28, 2009 I didn't see Scuderi's, but I thought Ott's was certainly penalty worthy, not so much a suspension. But you know the NHL, you gotta protect players' knees. Their brains however, are fair game. Otts was clean, and if you think he went low check out this: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted October 28, 2009 Otts was clean, and if you think he went low check out this: I disagree that Ott's was clean. Like I said, a penalty, probably not suspension worthy. But that one was worth a penalty and suspension. That hit makes Lebda's hip checks look great by comparison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted October 28, 2009 I didn't see Scuderi's, but I thought Ott's was certainly penalty worthy, not so much a suspension. But you know the NHL, you gotta protect players' knees. Their brains however, are fair game. Booth got hit in the head because Richards had him lined up for a shoulder check and he STOPPED, but the stopping didn't keep him out of Richards' line plus Richards slightly leaned towards Booth to make contact rather than fall on his face. It wasn't an intentional hit to the head like you seem to believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted October 28, 2009 Booth got hit in the head because Richards had him lined up for a shoulder check and he STOPPED, but the stopping didn't keep him out of Richards' line plus Richards slightly leaned towards Booth to make contact rather than fall on his face. It wasn't an intentional hit to the head like you seem to believe. There's already a thread on that hit. Maybe you can argue with me there. This is the thread about where you can make up some imaginary movement on the Scuderi or Ott hits that only you can detect in the instant replay Though because you state your opinions as if they were irrefutable facts, there's a pretty good chance I'm not gonna answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted October 28, 2009 Everything is a joke after Richards got away with destroying another player's head on a ridiculously dangerous play. Honestly that check was the most dangerous thing I've seen on the ice in a long time. He could've been paralyzed on a hit like that. This two tier penalty system is an absolute joke. Stars shouldn't have the right to target the brains of other players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clutchngrab 12 Report post Posted October 28, 2009 I don't know - Scuderi's hit was low, but it was slightly above the knees. Jeez I remember when that was considered a good check. Hockey really has become pussified. I've seen alot worse knee on knee, headhunting and hitting from behind - none of which was tolerated in the old days. I miss the 70's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XxGoWingsxX 0 Report post Posted October 28, 2009 I find it funny that these "dirty" hits as the league calls them...half the time aren't even warranting a penalty by the refs that this same league employs to call this kinda stuff, yet the league ...after the game will say it was dirty. Umm , in my opinion if no penalty was given that just proves to me that the ref wasn't doing his job...or he is UNCLEAR what the rules are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted October 28, 2009 There's already a thread on that hit. Maybe you can argue with me there. This is the thread about where you can make up some imaginary movement on the Scuderi or Ott hits that only you can detect in the instant replay Though because you state your opinions as if they were irrefutable facts, there's a pretty good chance I'm not gonna answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CenterIce 83 Report post Posted October 28, 2009 (edited) Look familiar: Edited October 28, 2009 by CenterIce Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted October 28, 2009 It's rediculous that ott got suspended for a very very nice hipcheck, while scuderi didnt even get a penalty yet his was illegal because he hit im on his knees - extremely low that is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank Dats 'N Homer 81 Report post Posted October 28, 2009 Look familiar: haha i love when a guy gets a clean hit then has to answer for it by fighting another guy and kicking the s*** out of that guy too. The only thing that makes this clip better for me was seeing malkin on the end of a good hit and seeing CROSBY on the side of the butt whoopin. Crosby cant even defend himself what was he thinking trying to defend his lover? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted October 28, 2009 Look familiar: Was low, but Malkin had his head down. Too bad, so sad. Of course, since it's Pittsburgh, he could have gotten his legs severed at the knee and I still would probably say it's a clean hit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted October 28, 2009 (edited) Ballard is what 5'10 malkin is like 6'5/6'6 p,us he was rising, of course it is going to be low, but even then ballard is thigh height unlike scuderi who is knee level and 6'1 checking a 6'0 dude. Edited October 28, 2009 by jollymania Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CenterIce 83 Report post Posted October 28, 2009 Ballard is what 5'10 malkin is like 6'5/6'6 p,us he was rising, of course it is going to be low, but even then ballard is thigh height unlike scuderi who is knee level and 6'1 checking a 6'0 dude. They are pretty much identical plays. Both players went way lower than a hip check and took out the knees. I recall everyone praising Ballard's hit, probably because it was on the Penguins. Both hits are dirty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted October 28, 2009 They are pretty much identical plays. Both players went way lower than a hip check and took out the knees. I recall everyone praising Ballard's hit, probably because it was on the Penguins. Both hits are dirty. no they are not, ballard was in full control and hit hip to malkin's (who's legs were straight pretty much) thigh, that is a hipcheck, Scuderi's was a failed hip check, he made initial contact with his shoulder to chimera's knee. A ballard hipcheck on Malkin will always look low but what is Ballard supposed to do grow 5 inches magically when he goes to make a hipcheck so they dont appear low? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted October 28, 2009 Scuderi's was a bad play. Not intentional, but I am not exactly mad about the fine considering he won't miss any playing time. Just a slap on the wrist. The same goes for the hit on Malkin that was shown earlier. Both hits to the knees. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjlegend 155 Report post Posted October 28, 2009 Of course, since it's Pittsburgh, he could have gotten his legs severed at the knee and I still would probably say it's a clean hit. This. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites