Giguere to Red Wings?

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from HockeyBuzz.com, Giguere to Red Wings (e3) Oilers involved?

A source has informed me that a major trade is being discussed between the Red WIngs and Ducks that could bring Giguere to Detroit.

Personally I think the Ducks are NUTS to even consider moving Giguere in the Conference, last of all to the hated Red Wings. I am told that the Ducks would get a "serious" player in return who Detroit should not want to trade to the Ducks either.

However, my source said that there is another deal involving the Oilers and "one of the Ducks or Red Wings" that must go down first. I can only assume that this is a Cap hit move that the Red Wings must make.

I understand this is a Eklund rumor and his rumors are almost as ridiculous as tabloid headlines, but it's hard to think of a player the Wings would/could move for Giguere. I highly doubt they would trade Osgood considering his contract, playoff performance and how much he's loved in Detroit. Babcock might have a crush on Giguere from his years in Anaheim but I still don't think taking on a 6 mil dollar contract for a goalie is a move Ken Holland would ever make.....unless.

We traded Rafalski/Howard and got another decent defenseman + Giguere in return. Rafalski has the NTC, but I'm sure he'd like to play with S. Niedermayer again. And we all know that Ken Holland has a tendency to sign Veteran goalies so I can see this rumor actually being true. As for the Oilers part...who knows?

[CopenhagenWing 38]

Thankfully, it's an Eklund rumour.

Giguere isn't an improvement at the position at this point.

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Thankfully, it's an Eklund rumour.

Giguere isn't an improvement at the position at this point.

I disagree, I think Giguere is still one of the best. I think a 2 solid goalie tandem is what the Wings want, it worked in 08. A "may the best man win" situation again. I know this trade has been discussed here before and many of you shoot it down because of Rafalski's NTC but I think going to So Cal to play with Niedermayer is reason enough for Rafalski to waive it, he got his cup here and he hasn't played very well lately, time to ship out. I think the Wings would be more than willing to move him to free up cap space for next season.

[under_par_00 45]

Well if Ozzie really does have a groin injury, as they're speculating in the Flu thread, then maybe Holland knows he needs to make a move for a goalie??

[Rick Zombos Ghost 82]

maybe Illich is offering up Granderson for him.

Edited November 12, 2009 by Rick Zombos Ghost

[RedWings Gone Wild 6]

I could really only see this happening if Raf was involved, which I wouldn't really be thrilled about (even tho he seems to be a leading candidate for LGW whipping boy). Everyone else is either signed to long to be worth trading, to valuable to the team, or simply has to little of a cap hit to really factor in to the trade. Osgood isn't going anywhere, because his cap hit is so low it wouldn't be enough to get Giggy.

I would love to have Giggy in net, and I would be even happier to have 6 million free to spend when his contract is up at the end of next season... but I doubt this one.

[StevieY9802 6]

yeah the only guy who could be moved, if his NTC was wavied is Rafalski. There is no one else who would be available that would clear enough cap space, not just for this year but for next year too. Plus anyone who is saying they should trade Rafalski that would proably give you Meech and Lebda as your #3 pairing. Like that idea?

This isn't gonna happen.

[LidstromIsASuperhero 29]

This is BS. There's no one with a decent cap hit I would even consider trading for Giguere.

[Guest E_S_A_D]

I like Giguere as a Wing. Ozzie bores me.

[mmamolo 287]

Just as anyone is saying the only person you could trade for this to make sense money wise would be Rafalski. I think tha twould be a terrible move right now. That being said, Rafalski is 36 and has two more full season after this year on the books. Even though he still puts up very good offensive numbers I have seen what could be a decline in his defensive abilities.

Either way, I would much much rather the Wings held out and tried to sign Hiller this summer if they were going to do anythign to their goaltending situation as opposed to trading for Gigeure who is overpaid for what he has been doing th elast year or so. If he can regain his form then he'd be worth the money but that's a big gamble.

At the end of the day, this rumor came from Eklund so you know there is nothing to it

[RedWingsRox 614]

If rumour was true, Rafalski for Giggy, I'd pull the trigger on that.

Any chance we can wait till Anaheim is desperate and send Giggy down to minors and claim him on waivers and then we only have to pay Giggy 1/2 his salary or 3 mill

It would be weird to have 2 goalies seen on par and one makes 6 mill and then other 1.7 mill ... a bit of disrespect to Ozzie, don't you think?

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DetNews:

Media and internet rumors circulating out of the general managers' meetings in Toronto earlier this week intimated that the Anaheim Ducks are seeking trade offers for $6 million goaltender Jean-Sebastien Giguere, now a back-up to Jonas Hiller.

Whether those rumors are true doesn't matter to the Red Wings. They are not interested, either way.

General manager Ken Holland, though he would not talk specifically about Giguere, said he has not talked trades and doesn't expect to talk trades with any team any time soon.

[Finnish Wing 110]

Just as anyone is saying the only person you could trade for this to make sense money wise would be Rafalski. I think tha twould be a terrible move right now. That being said, Rafalski is 36 and has two more full season after this year on the books. Even though he still puts up very good offensive numbers I have seen what could be a decline in his defensive abilities.

Either way, I would much much rather the Wings held out and tried to sign Hiller this summer if they were going to do anythign to their goaltending situation as opposed to trading for Gigeure who is overpaid for what he has been doing th elast year or so. If he can regain his form then he'd be worth the money but that's a big gamble.

At the end of the day, this rumor came from Eklund so you know there is nothing to it

Or Rinne, who will probably be cheaper.

[wingfanatic4alltime 32]

id love to see this happen but i just dont see how we could afford Giggy

[Mckinley25 679]

Didn't Rafalski come to Detroit (partly at least) because he was originally from the area? I don't know what his family status is, but seems like at this point in his career he'd want to stay put and not waive his NTC.

[BeeRYCE 2]

We can call him the big red machine.

[cupforwings 138]

I'm glad this rumor is just that... a rumor. Paying a goalie $6 million is insane (unless it were Roy or Hasek in their prime) and the wings would never consider that. Really, or biggest problem this year has been consistency on defense. When our goalies have played bad, it is because our defense have played bad. Giving up Rafalski would be a very bad move. Besides, if we were going to pick up a goalie, it would be a cheaper one like Biron. He costs less, is still very effective, and we wouldn't have to give our 2nd best defenseman to a conference rival. I thought we were past taking Eklund rumors seriously?

[cjm502 165]

Yeah, this is total BS. If he was a $2m goalie it might be a little more believable.

[RedWings Gone Wild 6]

Holland has already come out and said that there is no truth behind this rumor. So, nuff said.

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Nevermind JSG, any chance of snagging Hiller instead? He's far more impressive between the pipes. Even though he babbles to himself during the anthem, i think he's got a ton more potential than JSG.

[eva unit zero 271]

Nevermind JSG, any chance of snagging Hiller instead? He's far more impressive between the pipes. Even though he babbles to himself during the anthem, i think he's got a ton more potential than JSG.

Yeah, Anaheim will give up the much younger, much cheaper goalie with huge potential that is currently their starter to a conference rival like Detroit instead of getting rid of the much older, much more expensive backup who is on a downturn in his career.

Yep, I see that happening.

[Guest ZetterbergFourty]

Yeah, Anaheim will give up the much younger, much cheaper goalie with huge potential that is currently their starter to a conference rival like Detroit instead of getting rid of the much older, much more expensive backup who is on a downturn in his career.

Yep, I see that happening.

So Howard is just a silly chump then that's totally and utterly useless? I see it happening, why send potential in Howard to Anahiem for some washed up shmuck then?

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So Howard is just a silly chump then that's totally and utterly useless? I see it happening, why send potential in Howard to Anahiem for some washed up shmuck then?

Jonas Hiller is two years older than Jimmy Howard. Do you really think Anaheim risks trading a proven guy like Giguere who has won the Smythe and recently won a Cup to Detroit for Howard, who has proven nothing?

And if so, who else does Detroit have to send? Filppula and Kronwall? Rafalski plus a pick or two?

And all of this for a very expensive guy who would be, at best, competing for the starting goalie job on a team that should be more concerned with its defensive unit than its goaltending.

[Pucks 66]

There's a thread related to this over at hockeyleaks. The guys friend supposedly works over at TSN. He told him that the deal being talked about was that Anahiem is sending Giguere, Sbisa and Erik Christiansen to Detroit for Brian Rafalski and Jimmy Howard.

This is about the only trade I've seen that is at least doable salary wise. Obviously Giggy and Raf have no NTC's though.

[mmamolo 287]

There's a thread related to this over at hockeyleaks. The guys friend supposedly works over at TSN. He told him that the deal being talked about was that Anahiem is sending Giguere, Sbisa and Erik Christiansen to Detroit for Brian Rafalski and Jimmy Howard.

This is about the only trade I've seen that is at least doable salary wise. Obviously Giggy and Raf have no NTC's though.

This simply won't happen. Ken Holland went on record this past week at the GM meetings in Toronto as saying he has had no discussions concerning any trades with GMs recently and doesn't plan to. Detroit doesn't have the cap space nor are they willing to move roster players. Traditionally the Wings have been very hesitant to move any roster players and this year won't be any different. They are going to work with what they have and if any move is made it will be at the deadline and that's it.

Not to mention picking Sbisa and Christiansen (along with Giguere) doesn't exactly fill the void that would be left by Rafalski. No way does this deal happen.