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The Positivity of all the injuries *right now*

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The injuries suck and I know we, as RW fans, would rather have our full line-up. But down the stretch the team as a whole is learning something important... CHARACTER. With our rookies playing now and experiencing the adversity in the NHL, they are gaining character and experience (esp. Abs and Helm are really benefiting).

Now I know it's cliche` to think injuries now means the team will be healthier later, and considering the way this season is going that might be the farthest thing from the facts. But who knows?

That in mind, think about how much more hungrier our top guns are going to be, especially since this Red Wings team has played more hockey the past 3 years than any hockey team in the world. They are going to be hungry and guess what... the players coming back will have time to gel and get hot and into playoff form. A healthy Red Wings team in the playoffs (after the adversity they went through) will be the last team ANY team will want to face.

So looking ahead there are benefits to our injuries, it's rest. Babcock's job will be to get this team clicking and going hot after some key players return, and he will. I'm optmistic that these injuries will benefit this team when it truly matters. After a couple grueling 7-game series not that long ago and winning the cup the year before that and going to the WCF the year before that, some of these players could actually benefit from getting hungry from watching these games that they can't play in.

Anyone see the pre-game clip on Franzen a few games ago? Did you see how sitting out is eating at him to the point where he wants to return ASAP, and he's working out all day, every day and busting his butt. He's HUNGRY! Feed the Mule!

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Are you always so optimistic? I think there are a few upsides...like 2. Experience for young guys as well as the injured players will be well rested. But the down side of them being well rested is they'll be poorly conditioned. IDK you could go either way with these injuries. <_<

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Are you always so optimistic? I think there are a few upsides...like 2. Experience for young guys as well as the injured players will be well rested. But the down side of them being well rested is they'll be poorly conditioned. IDK you could go either way with these injuries. <_<

Confession time, guys.

Me and Miller Brew are actually the same poster. He's my positive alter ego spawned from years of negativity.

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Are you always so optimistic? I think there are a few upsides...like 2. Experience for young guys as well as the injured players will be well rested. But the down side of them being well rested is they'll be poorly conditioned. IDK you could go either way with these injuries. <_<

Yes and no. The players are professional and are doing what they can to stay in shape (take Franzen for example). Then look at the long break in February. All teams are going to need to get back into form. So will Wings be that far behind after break? I don't think so. I think it'll be like a fresh season, except our players are going to be extremely hungry.

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Injuries stink. Just got to hope they keep a respectable record before they heal up for the most part in mid-January. 3 losses in a row stinks but if you look at the last 7, they are 4-3. Not horrible considering how depleted they are. Just don't go on any ridiculously long losing streaks (3 isn't one of them) and they should be fine by mid-January.

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I don't doubt their hunger, I'm just saying there's only so much conditioning they can do on/off ice depending on their injuries. Even their practices aren't as intense as an actual game. I just think it'll take a few games until they start playing at the caliber they were before they got hurt.

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It would be one thing if they lost two or three good players and their depth was tested and they pulled through, this is another matter entirely. While they are by no means out of the playoff picture, they are losing points now and those can't be recovered; their margin for error down the stretch with a healthier lineup will be significantly reduced. If they make it, then this crisis could be seen as a positive thing, but right now nobody knows what's going to happen.

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It would be one thing if they lost two or three good players and their depth was tested and they pulled through, this is another matter entirely. While they are by no means out of the playoff picture, they are losing points now and those can't be recovered; their margin for error down the stretch with a healthier lineup will be significantly reduced. If they make it, then this crisis could be seen as a positive thing, but right now nobody knows what's going to happen.

I agree.

People sound like we're going to flip on some switch once the injured players return.

It's not that easy. Especially with everyone else getting points and the Olympic break in there to muddle things up some more.

Also, it takes a while for injured players to gain their game back and whatever chemistry is lacking.

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I don't think it's going to be that difficult for the team to click.

Team chemistry?

Filppula returns Saturday and Ritola/Newbury are no longer and Wings just got that deeper at center. Our PK and PP just that much better.'

Ralfi should be back on Saturday as well. He'll eat up more minutes and spreads out the D options.

Early January, Kronwall returns and Janik is sent back down. That's HUGE! He was one of our best d-men this year, even if he's 75% back to form, he's 70% than we had and will eat up more minutes, and our PP just got that much better (and relieves pressure of Lidstrom).

Early January, Cleary returns. That gives Babcock the option to sit Leino. Our PP just got better and we're going to have a clutch player back in the line-up.

1 week after Cleary returns, Zetterberg comes back. His presence alone will lift this team to new heights. Our PP and PK just got that much better and we got a guy who will make things happen whenever he's out on the ice. This will relieve so much pressure off Dats and Bert. Plus we can send sit one of Malby or May or whoever isn't contributing 110% every night.

By that time Ericsson will be back, our PK just got that much better and now our D is back to full power and that's going to relieve so many minutes off Stuart, Lidstrom and Lebda. And Meech gets bumped out. Ericsson or Meech? You decide.

Perhaps Williams will return before Ericsson or about the same time. But he should be back around the time Zetterberg returns any how. He's the missing element to make our PP lethal. His goal scoring will be appreciated.

After break Franzen should be back. I agree he might not be the Franzen he was before he went down, but his presence alone is a HUGE boost. And a player like Franzen is still going to score goals, the guy has hands.

I think that looks pretty good, really. Just getting our defencemen back and Flip, Zetterberg, and Cleary is HUGE. This is much better than we're icing now.

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Not to mention the Olympic games could help Datsyuk's confidence. I assume he will be a top line player for Russia and he may get going with Ovechkin and the other Russian stars. It could help his shot and his "dangle dangle" going and then he carries it over to finish up the rest of the regular season on a tear. But back to the main point, the negatives outweigh the "positives" of these injuries.

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There's nothing possitive with these injuries the players who play now aren't ready for those minutes/commitments, this kills a team and it will be very hard to get into the playoffs, and its not like it will magically turn around in january when some players get back there's always a period of getting accustomed to the new(old) players again...

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There's nothing possitive with these injuries the players who play now aren't ready for those minutes/commitments, this kills a team and it will be very hard to get into the playoffs, and its not like it will magically turn around in january when some players get back there's always a period of getting accustomed to the new(old) players again...

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There's nothing possitive with these injuries the players who play now aren't ready for those minutes/commitments, this kills a team and it will be very hard to get into the playoffs, and its not like it will magically turn around in january when some players get back there's always a period of getting accustomed to the new(old) players again...

There are many ways to spin this situation. Another way is to say that when all the injured players return, Babcock will have a ton of parts to choose from to put together an excellent team. He's already found a couple gem penalty killers in the GR ranks.

You could also rejoice in knowing that some key players are getting some much needed rest. This little hiccup was instrumental in reviving Draper, which is pretty big. Bert is finding his game. Meech seems to be improving. I actually like him on the penalty kill. He did a great job last night.

I believe we sit 9 points behind the conference leader. We are only a few points out of a playoff spot and we lead the league in man games lost (we must). I think you overestimate the transition players undergo after being re-inserted into the lineup. It's not THAT hard to start contributing. Especially on the Wings.

I don't know how anybody could be worried about the Wings making the playoffs when they are within striking distance before the All-Star break with a decimated lineup.

Edited by Broken 16

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Guest mindfly

Being out for the game for 4months like franzen will have been in march requires alot of games to find the legs, rythm and everything... rested? ehm yeah but they will be rusty for quiet a while too... being injured isnt just getting "rest" it's also being out of very important games to get to the top of your game

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If everyone is at top speed by the time the playoffs start, I like our chances.

Helm-Dats-Bert

Cleary-Z-Franzen

Williams-Filppula-Abdelkader

Holmstrom-Draper-Eaves

Lidstrom-Ericsson

Lebda-Kronwall

Rafalski-Stuart

Osgood

Howard

I like our chances.

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If everyone is at top speed by the time the playoffs start, I like our chances.

Helm-Dats-Bert

Cleary-Z-Franzen

Williams-Filppula-Abdelkader

Holmstrom-Draper-Eaves

Lidstrom-Ericsson

Lebda-Kronwall

Rafalski-Stuart

Osgood

Howard

I like our chances.

As much as it kills you to put Homer on the first line, Draper-Helm-Eaves >>>> Holmstrom-Draper-Eaves. If Datsyuk and Bert continue to develope chemistry, Homer could be instrumental on that line. Surely your hatred hasn't blinded you THAT much.

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You are not allowed to be optimistic on these boards. Many people here suffer from a rare and strange condition by which disappointment can prove deadly! As such, please avoid getting their hopes up, unless you have proof that your optimism will indeed play out in reality.

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Kinda strange, every time I think about Detroit's injuries, I seem to always forget about Jason Williams. Can't wait to get him back on the powerplay as opposed to Meech.

People love to rag on Williams, but he was looking alot more engaged physically this year, and a bit more responsible defensively. Not to mention, look at his goal highlights on NHL, he has a frickin bomb from the point.

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You are not allowed to be optimistic on these boards. Many people here suffer from a rare and strange condition by which disappointment can prove deadly! As such, please avoid getting their hopes up, unless you have proof that your optimism will indeed play out in reality.

I agree.

Some of the negativity on these threads is getting annoying.

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I agree.

Some of the negativity on these threads is getting annoying.

Fresh legs for the playoffs!!! Bring on s***sburg. TIME FOR THE RUBBERMATCH, *******!!!

Didn't mean to reply to a post, sorry.

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