Let's Make a Deal...

[Marty Barry 230]

8 grand in booze and this is the closest thing to police report. No bribing officers, no cab drivers punched. Incredible. Give them the requested discount.

[cusimano_brothers 1,655]

Maybe they forgot they were in Calgary. Next time, make it "BYOB".

[Learn2LuvIt 246]

$8 a shot. Say 45 people had 10 shots. That's $3,600 right there.

Then you have to add in all the bottles of FINE WINE, Champagne, and liquor.

I know where I worked at Garland which is a Golf Resort, we had to charge $150 a bottle for Absoult Vodka for parties. Say they bought 45 bottles @ $150 a pop. That's $6,750 right there.

ha ha ha...I want to party with you my man!!!

Maybe I'm getting old, but even in my younger days when I was in my "prime"....10 shots per person + any amount of wine/champagne/beer/liquor is an awful lot of booze. 45 bottles of Vodka! Maybe a few gamers have 10 shots, but to have the whole party rocking that amount of booze is unlikely. My wife, even when she gets her drink-on...only has a few glasses of wine. Which means, regardless, some of these guys were partying down BIG TIME, and yes I can see how a bill can get out of control like this. Keep in mind as well, I've personally witnessed restaruant staff of going "rich" on bills of big parties with no point person managing the yeah's and nea's on what's being put on the bill. An especially in this case, when the party goers are famous (it is Canada) and loaded! Just keep that in mind.

Anyhow ...They should have put the bill on the Underhills house tab (movie Fletch reference ).

Edited January 4, 2010 by Learn2LuvIt

[henrik40 76]

I've had the opportunity to party with some Detroit athletes that shall go unnamed, and you would not believe the amount of alcohol some of them can consume. It's crazy, and I thought I was a heavy drinker in college.

[stevkrause 1,247]

whoever said it should count against their cap -

haha

now, onto everyone who says they don't tip and those that flat out don't - you are a scumbag and a lowlife... don't give me the "they're doing their job bulls***" - I make a pretty decent salary and am fortunate I am in my line of work and not the service industry, but I know plenty that are and they deserve their tips and bust their ass...

The service industry is BASED on tips - these workers make generally less than $3 an hour for "doing their job" - if they provide you with adequate service at minimum, there is no excuse to give them less than 15% and if they give you good service, it better be at least 20% - if you can't afford the extra $5-10 for a meal, then dine somewhere less expensive or somewhere that doesn't go off tips (ie. McDonald's)

The tip incentive is to drive the service to be better, if it's not, don't tip - but if it is and you don't - you're a scumbag - no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

[Echolalia 2,961]

whoever said it should count against their cap -

haha

now, onto everyone who says they don't tip and those that flat out don't - you are a scumbag and a lowlife... don't give me the "they're doing their job bulls***" - I make a pretty decent salary and am fortunate I am in my line of work and not the service industry, but I know plenty that are and they deserve their tips and bust their ass...

The service industry is BASED on tips - these workers make generally less than $3 an hour for "doing their job" - if they provide you with adequate service at minimum, there is no excuse to give them less than 15% and if they give you good service, it better be at least 20% - if you can't afford the extra $5-10 for a meal, then dine somewhere less expensive or somewhere that doesn't go off tips (ie. McDonald's)

The tip incentive is to drive the service to be better, if it's not, don't tip - but if it is and you don't - you're a scumbag - no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

There was talk couple years ago about issuing a mandatory 15% tip statewide. When people mentioned that they don't tip that proposal was the first thing that popped into my mind.

[Turkey 0]

I had no problem believing that they might rack up a bill this high. I've spent $400 for only two people at a decent french restaurant (before grad school when I had actual income). Trying to argue the bill down is just sleazy (sort of like not tipping).

[Guest Lidstromboli]

"I don't tip because society says I have to. All right, if someone deserves a tip, if they really put forth an effort, I'll give them something a little something extra. But this tipping automatically, it's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, they're just doing their job."

[mjlegend 155]

With one exception when I had the world's worst service, I've never been at any place where tipping was customary and not tipped at least 12 per cent. But I'd rather the government not tell me I had to tip as part of the charge.

Calgary and Edmonton are both two-paper towns with pretty tough competition. This is the kind of story you'll get in the middle of the year in this kind of market. In Edmonton last year, a few autograph seekers complained that a pair of young players (Gagner was one of them, forget who the other one was) were charging $25 each for autographs at a collectors show. They faced questions on that for a few weeks.

[Louisville 112]

- -45 mineral water -- $357.75

Man, they couldn't even give them a break on water?

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

With one exception when I had the world's worst service, I've never been at any place where tipping was customary and not tipped at least 12 per cent. But I'd rather the government not tell me I had to tip as part of the charge.

Calgary and Edmonton are both two-paper towns with pretty tough competition. This is the kind of story you'll get in the middle of the year in this kind of market. In Edmonton last year, a few autograph seekers complained that a pair of young players (Gagner was one of them, forget who the other one was) were charging $25 each for autographs at a collectors show. They faced questions on that for a few weeks.

What's funny is that other than a few good shootout moves in his rookie year, Sam Gagner is nowhere near good enough to be demanding $25 in exchange for an autograph.

[stevkrause 1,247]

There was talk couple years ago about issuing a mandatory 15% tip statewide. When people mentioned that they don't tip that proposal was the first thing that popped into my mind.

I hate mandatory tips... it removes the whole incentive, because the server KNOWS they're getting it and doesn't have to work for it... but can understand it to some extent because of the low lives that don't tip and USUALLY restaurants only do that with large parties, which are assigned to their best servers anyway, so they've earned it.

it should NEVER be regulated by government however - not their place...

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

8 grand in booze and this is the closest thing to police report. No bribing officers, no cab drivers punched. Incredible. Give them the requested discount.

Why should they get a discount?

What do you think the combined salaries of the players at that table was?

The players refused to pay for a whole bottle of brandy, even though one of them took a swig directly from it. It's not like the restaurant can serve that now with Oiler juice in it. These guys wanted to act like high rollers but then turned into p*ssies when the actual bill came.

They should pay the whole bill and stfu.

[Yzerfan1999 81]

Here is some new info pertaining to this story.

From the Globe and Mail Biggest Cheapskates in Pro Sports?

Article has some more details about the incident, along with a bit of a character investigation on this restaurant owner. He is now taking money for interviews, claiming that he will send all the money to earthquake victims in Italy. I'd like to see the tax receipt for that one.

In addition, someone from the Battle of Alberta blogs found this tidbit of info on the Calgary Criminal Courts website.

Have a read through this CanLII

Turns out this guys is a bit of a lair. Its actually a hilarious read.

[GMRwings1983 8,803]

Mr. Pink is my hero.

Ever since his infamous monologue, I've reconsidered all this tipping crap and society's "unwritten rules" in general.

[cusimano_brothers 1,655]

From Edmonton Sun :

Outspoken and outraged just one day earlier, the GM of an upscale restaurant did a spin-orama today in his position on a dispute with Edmonton Oilers’ players.

...

...

Terrigno would not elaborate on any developments in the disagreement except to confirm some sort of agreement with team members.

He repeatedly, however, deferred to the team for any details.

“I have come to an agreement with the Edmonton Oilers,†he said.

“I am very ecstatic with the agreement.â€

...

Free tickets?

[ShanahanMan 473]

From Edmonton Sun :

Free tickets?

On one hand we have a greedy restaurant owner, who's already been in trouble with the law, who publicly makes his case known in order to bring attention to it and get a hefty pay out to "keep quiet" (350 for mineral water? come on, the guy was trying to take advantage of drunken players to get the most money he could).

Then on the other hand, we have a large group of players (and their friends) who make in excess of at least a million dollars a year (most WAY above that) and yet refuse to pay a god damn dinner tab just because "they are special".

And what happens in the end? Both sides win, rest. owner keeps quiet (for an obvious hefty payout) and Oilers don't tarnish their reputation (western conference standings do that enough).

No justice in the world.....

Edited January 4, 2010 by ShanahanMan

[Yzerfan1999 81]

Just heard on the local radio that the Calgary Police are now investigating the restaurant owner for over-serving alcohol to the Oilers party.

Hahah, ouch.

[Hack & Whack Rule! 160]

whoever said it should count against their cap -

haha

now, onto everyone who says they don't tip and those that flat out don't - you are a scumbag and a lowlife... don't give me the "they're doing their job bulls***" - I make a pretty decent salary and am fortunate I am in my line of work and not the service industry, but I know plenty that are and they deserve their tips and bust their ass...

The service industry is BASED on tips - these workers make generally less than $3 an hour for "doing their job" - if they provide you with adequate service at minimum, there is no excuse to give them less than 15% and if they give you good service, it better be at least 20% - if you can't afford the extra $5-10 for a meal, then dine somewhere less expensive or somewhere that doesn't go off tips (ie. McDonald's)

The tip incentive is to drive the service to be better, if it's not, don't tip - but if it is and you don't - you're a scumbag - no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

Since you are, forcefully, imposing your tipping standards on others, I have one question. If the service sucks ass through a straw, do I, or do I not have to tip? You have only managed to contradict yourself here. I know, I'm the one that asked earlier not to turn this into the "Tipping" thread, but I just love it when people tell me how to spend my money.

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

Just heard on the local radio that the Calgary Police are now investigating the restaurant owner for over-serving alcohol to the Oilers party.

Hahah, ouch.

After reading their thread and new information that's coming out, it seems that the main foul is on the restaraunt owner.

[FireCaptain 563]

I can only speak for myself as an American that absolutely disagrees with mandatory tipping.

Several times I've had to call a manager over to the table and politely ask them to remove the automatic tip. Out of those times, all but 2 resulted in a BIGGER tip than what was proposed by the 18%.

On the 2 that resulted in less than 18% it was due to a lack of service, plain and simple. I shouldn't be forced to reward poor service based strictly on the size of my party.

OK, back to the thread at hand.

$18000/45 people is $400 per person. I hope the meal was good!

There's no need for that.

Having experience in both Canada and America... Americans fight automatic gratuity... and tips in GENERAL... FAR, FAR more often then Canadians do.

They ARE millionaires though, that shouldn't be too big of a deal.

Edited January 5, 2010 by FireCaptain

[stevkrause 1,247]

Since you are, forcefully, imposing your tipping standards on others, I have one question. If the service sucks ass through a straw, do I, or do I not have to tip? You have only managed to contradict yourself here. I know, I'm the one that asked earlier not to turn this into the "Tipping" thread, but I just love it when people tell me how to spend my money.

I in no way contradicted myself... the first statement I made is towards people that never tip, or tip poorly, regardless of service, especially when a server stands on their head for them... if the service is horrible - they have not earned a tip... but when someone doesn't tip because they're "doing their job" when they've given you excellent service - they're a scumbag. period.

[rick zombo 3,739]

Let's make a deal.

They give The Wings Horcoff, and Holland pays their tab.

P.S. Johhny Depp tipped a waiter $4000 not too long ago.

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

Let's make a deal.

They give The Wings Horcoff, and Holland pays their tab.

P.S. Johhny Depp tipped a waiter $4000 not too long ago.

As opposed to this story about LeBron James -

LeBron pulls up in his Mercedes outside XO. People stop and try not to stare, but c'mon, it's LeBron James. He enters the restaurant with a group of friends. On this special occasion, the King decides to dine late. He keeps his group there until around 3:45 a.m. During this time the waiter obsequiously pours drinks and fetches anything else His Greatness needs.

The final bill comes to $800. By the feudal laws of decorum, which stipulate that the affluent should administer a 20 percent gratuity, staffers figured they'd be pocketing an extra $160. But when they fetched the autographed bill after His Heinousness bolted back to Akron, their expectation turned to disbelief, then anger.

LeBron stiffed them with a meager $10 tip. This is what French nobles like to call your requisite Bourgeois *****-Slap. The waiter wouldn't even take it, tired of being shat on by guys like LeBron.

[Hack & Whack Rule! 160]

I in no way contradicted myself... the first statement I made is towards people that never tip, or tip poorly, regardless of service, especially when a server stands on their head for them... if the service is horrible - they have not earned a tip... but when someone doesn't tip because they're "doing their job" when they've given you excellent service - they're a scumbag. period.

Got it...my bad...