1/16 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Dallas Stars 3 (SO)

[CanadaBoy 151]

How is it that the 'War Room' in Toronto can change the rules of Hockey any time they feel like. I thought that unless there was conclusive evidence to overturn a ref's call the on ice ruling stands... especially when it comes to goals.

Totoally ridiculous to lose points in this manner.

The war room in Toronto called it inconclusive.

The ref linesmen away from the play overturned the no goal call from the ref near the net...

Edited January 16, 2010 by CanadaBoy

[aflac9262 211]

My god word coming from the FSN crew is Toronto ruled it inconclusive and the linesman and Leggo overruled the ref that was on top of the play. What a joke. These refs bet on games. I question every call ever made by them again. The NHL is fixed. I never believed that before I do now.

I wouldn't doubt it. The referee near the net even waived it off, and of all a sudden if Toronto ruled it to be inconclusive (I originally assumed Toronto called it a goal for that reason), why was this opinion changed? Very suspicious. It's happened in the NBA before (fixed games), and it sure obviously happens in the NHL too.

[96Homer 0]

Yes I am done with Hockey, It's getting harder and harder to watch with the non calls. They might as well have said here you go Dallas, have your win!

[dcd 5]

i very seriously think these referrees need to be looked into for gambling associations.

[wingsdiehard13 33]

If I understood that correctly, they just said that the video was NOT conclusive but the ref who called it no goal was overruled by the two others who didnt have nearly the same angle.

[Bryguy 103]

All i can do is just laugh at this game, from all the missed calls the way it was won.

YOU mean to tell me that this chippy game, the stars got ONE penalty? HAHH!

[brett 1,029]

3 high sticks not called today

1 no goalie interference

1 bulls*** shootout goal

no doubt the wings got away with a few things but how do you miss 3 high sticks

[RedWingsRox 614]

Toronto now has just screwed the chain of command on the ice by letting linesmen overrule the ref.

The referee association should seriously look into this or else it'll be anything goes on the ice.

[CenterIce 83]

The war room in Toronto called it inconclusive.

The ref away from the play overturned the no goal call from the ref near the net...

Did you read this some where. I don't see how the other ref could reverse the call. It is the ref you makes the call and Toronto in on the decision.

By the way, these threads need to be merged. This is the third one of these.

[aflac9262 211]

3 high sticks not called today

1 no goalie interference

1 bulls*** shootout goal

no doubt the wings got away with a few things but how do you miss 3 high sticks

I guarantee you if the Red Wings did that to score this afternoon, it would have been waived off, and a penalty would have most definitely been assessed. There is a vicious double standard when it comes to that scenario.

Edited January 16, 2010 by aflac9262

[CanadaBoy 151]

Did you read this some where. I don't see how the other ref could reverse the call. It is the ref you makes the call and Toronto in on the decision.

By the way, these threads need to be merged. This is the third one of these.

Ken and Mick got the news from Toronto.

[ben_usmc 253]

Ken and Mick found out what happened:

The one ref made the call: No Goal. He was right on top of it and emphatic it was no goal.

The linesman called for a review and said it was no goal.

Toronto for some reason allowed the linesman to overrule the ref who made the call (a violation of the rule that the ref making the call must be followed if you can't prove it's a goal), and admitted that the NHL did not have inconlusive proof it was a goal. They just allowed the linesman to overrule with no evidence.

I've never seen Mick and the team so upset. This is beyond bush league. You can't change the rules in the middle of a game in professional sports. This deserves a serious investigation, but of course there is no accountability in the NHL.

Well, at least we got 1 point and move into 8th.

Tell that to Malkin and his stick shot at Z along with an instigator.

[BlakKy 58]

When it comes to the Wings, the refs and the war room apparantly make rules up as they go along.

This was either a case of Ott having intent to score (thus it's a goal), or the so called 50-50 rule (in which the war-room flips a coin to see whether it's a goal or not).

Intent to score.. I like that.

[Guest mindfly]

Laddiesss, the bottom line is howard gave them a very very good chance to win in the shootout but the shots/dekes were brutal from the wings, unacceptable.. you can blame toronto all you want but wings had this in their own hands even earlier with a 2-0 lead which should be enough for a regular time win

Edited January 16, 2010 by mindfly

[brett 1,029]

IF THE WINGS FELT LIKE PLAYING 60 MINS WE WOULDNT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS BULLs*** BLAME THE WINGS

[Yzermania 156]

i'm pretty sure it went in, but yeah rules are the rules and no angle showed it crossing the line, so it should have not counted.

[GMRwings1983 8,794]

I thought it was a good call.

Flame me.

[Wings_Dynasty 267]

I say they give each team 2 points. It's the only fair thing to do. They can do that right? No? It's not in the rulebook??? Call Toronto, have them add it in.

[Doc Holliday 1,888]

I thought it was a good call.

Flame me.

Your mom.

Checkmate.

[VM1138 1,921]

I hate how sports fans whine about every call and result, because it makes it harder to be taken seriosly when you complain about a result.

But this was blatant cheating. I don't even understand how this can happen. Aren't the rules there for a reason? This wasn't a "human mistake" or some act of God, this was not according to the rules, should not happen.

[RedWings Gone Wild 6]

IF THE WINGS FELT LIKE PLAYING 60 MINS WE WOULDNT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS BULLs*** BLAME THE WINGS

Agreed. but that doesn't change the fact that this league continues, on an almost daily basis, to emphatically embarrass itself and alienate its fan base. It's got to stop.

[KnightFire420 0]

If that's what happened that just garbage! How can a linesmen and a ref not near the play overrule a ref right over the play!

Edited January 16, 2010 by KnightFire420

[McGuftus Caesar 0]

Riddle me this Batman: How does a ref miss two high sticking penalties but be eagle eyed enough to see a covered puck pass a millimeter beyond the goal line? Babs or ownership need to speak out on this one. We need the points!

[ben_usmc 253]

I thought it was a good call.

Flame me.

I wouldn't have a problem if someone that actually had a view called it a goal. The man a foot away, Toronto with overview, but neither made the call. In the end though we were going to lose this because we can't win games that will keep us with in the playoffs.

[CenterIce 83]

Ken and Mick got the news from Toronto.

I would like to go back and see where he was at, to know how well he could have made that call.