GORM19 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2010 In one part of a article it states that the wings might be better off playing at ford field I Was wondering is it even possible to put ice in at ford field Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown_Ryan 122 Report post Posted January 19, 2010 (edited) In one part of a article it states that the wings might be better off playing at ford field I Was wondering is it even possible to put ice in at ford field We Shall see this year... The Frozen Four is there this year.... I don't think the drive would deter me from going to games as much as the ticket prices would. I Like the nine dollar nose bleed seats .. It has allowed me to go to more games this year. "I" myself do not care where I sit ,or stand for that matter. But the fact is that with 3 thousand less seats is still a significant loss. Its not just the Seats.. It is all the beer and hot dogs that won't be sold by those 3 thousand people. in turn the revenue loss would only put the ticket prices up again and make it hard for the "low income fan" (like me) to go as often. Edited January 19, 2010 by Hockeytown_Ryan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted January 19, 2010 They should move the Tigers, Lions, and Wings out of Detroit.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest scottj Report post Posted January 19, 2010 yeah... to southgate! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueMonk 102 Report post Posted January 19, 2010 The Wings keep playing the way they are that shouldn't be a problem whatsoever. Glass houses, kid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted February 2, 2010 New article explaining reasons why the Wings likely will not be at the Palace next season. A quick comment about the supposed 'Red Wings to the Palace' storyline By George Malik January 19, 2010, 6:56PM While I haven't learned about the whole story yet due to the plague (only half kidding), this currently ailing blogger's gotten wind of the latest stories suggesting that the Red Wings are seriously considering moving to the Palace of Auburn Hills for the next couple of seasons, ostensibly until Joe Louis Arena's follow-on rink is built, because it would cost at least $10 million to renovate Joe Louis Arena--with the caveat that the move would be temporary as Mike Ilitch has no desire to buy the Pistons or purchase the Palace... Red Wings GM Ken Holland clarified the situation today, telling MLive.com's own Ansar Khan that the team isn't moving, and I can give you a litany of reasons why. First and foremost, I'm not discounting the expert reporting of the Detroit News's Chris McCosky, who was the Pistons' beat writer for an extended period of time before becoming a superb addition to the Red Wings' media corps. There's no doubt that Ilitch Holdings and Olympia Entertainment are telling the City of Detroit, Wayne County, the State of Michigan, and the newly-formed authority which runs Cobo Hall and the once Ilitch-leased Cobo Arena that they are keeping their options open. Joe Louis Arena's master lease was opened to give the authority and the City of Detroit control of Cobo Arena, and the Red Wings had to decline to renew their lease on Joe Louis Arena in no small part due to the fact that, sometime in the distant future, it's all but guaranteed that the Cobo complex will swallow the Joe's footprint. All of that being said, for the corporation that eventually wants to build an at least partially-publicly funded, most likely half-billion-dollar arena behind the Fox Theatre, to both serve as the Red Wings' home and a direct competitor to the Palace as a draw for concerts and entertainment events... This is all about leverage, about setting the table for the eventual negotiations that will take place when Michigan's economic situation is less dire for said follow-on rink, and, more importantly, ensuring that whatever short-term lease Ilitch Holdings/Olympia Entertainment will sign to stay at Joe Louis Arena for the present moment will remain a "sweetheart" deal, with complimentary police presence, "landscaping" and snow removal, and a rock-bottom price thanks to the fact that the barn's old and needs some refitting to continue serving as the Red Wings' home. In a "bottom line" sense, it would simply cost more money, never mind time, energy, and effort, to move the Red Wings to the Palace on a temporary basis than it would to remain at Joe Louis Arena. The logistical concerns and expenses in abandoning the Joe would include but are not limited to the following: Moving the Red Wings' front office, which includes both its hockey operations staff and its ticket sales department, the core of its game night staff, media arm, and merchandising, to an as-yet-unknown home as the Pistons' front office occupies the Palace; Forming an temporary ticketing alliance with Palace Sports and Entertainment; Eliminating the jobs of its its arena employees while attempting to merge its rink maintenance staff with that of the Palace; Dealing with the whole, "Palace sells Domino's Pizza and Pepsi" issue; Working with Palace Sports and Entertainment to revamp its in-game entertainment; Building a separate locker room and revamping the training and fitness facilities in the Palace so as to share the facility with the Pistons; Considering building a separate practice facility as the Palace is booked for concerts and events at least twice as often as Joe Louis Arena--while juggling the fact that said practice facility should be located close enough to wherever the Red Wings' follow-on arena is built so as to make travel easy for the players and coaches; Attempting to manage the minefield that is cobbling a schedule together while competing against the Pistons and concerts/etc. after spending the last 30 years in what is essentially a single-use facility; Attempting to build and maintain an ice surface that isn't terrible due to the Palace's multi-use facility status; Managing the transfer the Red Wings' season-ticket base to a new building with new sightlines and a different configuration, which includes inevitably managing moves and possible losses due to the change in physical and figurative location; Dealing with the fact that the suite-holder base might disappear or have to compete with the Pistons' and Palace's suite-holders for space; Asking the club's employees, including a coaching staff and players that generally lives in West Side suburbs that are twice as far from the Palace as Joe Louis Arena to drive "across town"; Considering the potential losses the team could incur in terms of its fan base due to the shift in geographic location; Corporately speaking, dealing with the fact that the Red Wings are taking business away from Olympia Entertainment's facilities and padding Palace Sports and Entertainment's bottom line as another jewel in that company's crown; Finally, delicately severing ties with the Palace and whoever ends up owning the Pistons whenever the Joe's follow-on rink is eventually built. I can think of at least fifty other reasons--if I was even half coherent I'd come up with a hundred--and I'm sure you can, as to why the cluster-you-know-what that moving to an arena and sharing time and space with a team that your ownership has no intention of managing/acquiring can involve, but the bottom line remains the same--moving the Red Wings to the Palace for the next three to six years would cost much more than $10 million and would involve an inordinate amount of headaches for the Red Wings, their front office, every aspect of their media, merchandising, game-night, ticket-selling, and player and coaching personnel components to move forty miles up I-75 to "save" a few million dollars for now... Especially when that move also involves becoming a "suburb-jumper" in the eyes of the CIty of Detroit, Wayne County, the State of Michigan, and the other entities with which Ilitch Holdings/Olympia Entertainment will do business with when the Joe's Detroit-based follow-on facility is built. The Red Wings want a favorable short-term lease at the Joe, assurances of compensation or brownie points for their imminent investment in renovating the facility, and they wanted this story to become the kind of local media firestorm (by Metro Detroit standards) that continues to build support for an eventual follow-on rink to be built where the Red Wings want it to be built, a significant chunk of because-of-this-story publicly supported public subsidization included. In the interim, I miss you all and will be back as soon as this kind of concentration's more than a once-a-day thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lfd250 1 Report post Posted February 2, 2010 In one part of a article it states that the wings might be better off playing at ford field I Was wondering is it even possible to put ice in at ford field The NCAA Hockey final four is at ford field this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travis 576 Report post Posted February 2, 2010 In one part of a article it states that the wings might be better off playing at ford field I Was wondering is it even possible to put ice in at ford field The NCAA Hockey final four is at ford field this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jwo 7 Report post Posted February 3, 2010 They should move the Tigers, Lions, and Wings out of Detroit.... If where going to that extreme, then move them out Michigan. Makes complete sense as to why you want to move them out of Detroit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted February 3, 2010 They should move the Tigers, Lions, and Wings out of Detroit.... Wha...? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
