NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 I'd love to keep Bert around for the right price. $2.5-$2.75 per is a fair deal, $2 million per would be great and another couple years at $1.5 per would be flat-out insanity. Even though he's not the guy he was in Vancouver, for what Bert brings to the table (both size, strength on the puck and skill) he's well worth what he's making right now. If Bert claims money is no object and Kenny appeals to his desire to win a Cup, I'm fairly confident he could be locked up on the low side of $2+ million. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtomicPunk 296 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 2 years, under 2 million per. A long term deal, I feel, will reduce his desire. Right now he is playing for another contract and I like it when players have to re-earn their deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ZetterbergFourty Report post Posted January 21, 2010 Hopefully they can find a way to keep him aboard. He's soley responsible for winning 5 or 6 games this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmonster 11 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 2 years 3.5 mil. 1.75 mil per season. And, unlike some I think he would play better knowing that he had a contract in place. He could be comfortable, knowing that for the next 2 years he has a contract. I will be the first to admit we are not signing the 2002 version of Bertuzzi, but I have been watching him, and his skating is much better the 2nd time around, and his renewed commitment to defense make me think that he and Ken Holland would get a deal done. Preferably before he turns 35. So he could retire and not affect the cap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 Carolina and Chicago are due for fire sales. We know Detroit's roster will be changing. Bert, Williams, Homer, Malts, May, Lids, Lilja, Lebda, Meech, Abdel, & Helm all do not have contracts currently for next year. There will be plunty of options better than Bert. WHo from Chicago do you think we can get and for how much and why do you think they are better than Bertuzzi? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 WHo from Chicago do you think we can get and for how much and why do you think they are better than Bertuzzi? tomas kopecky? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsasuk 2 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 Solid player to have around if price isn't an issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 as long as it is for $1.5 or less. We NEED the cash to sign a sniper and two defense when we cuts ties with Lidstrom, Lilja, Lebda and Meech. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeta Power 40 1 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 For the right price I would welcome him back in a heartbeat! He's really stepped up his game while we've lost tons of players to injury this season. He needs to keep it going. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 as long as it is for $1.5 or less. We NEED the cash to sign a sniper and two defense when we cuts ties with Lidstrom, Lilja, Lebda and Meech. Who's gonna take the bait? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yak19 303 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 Keep big Bert around, he seems comfortable as a Red Wing. He has been solid for the Wings and he has a cheap price tag. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 2 years, under 2 million per. A long term deal, I feel, will reduce his desire. Right now he is playing for another contract and I like it when players have to re-earn their deal. I hear what you're saying. I think it Bertuzzi's case, he still has a lot to prove and is giving every effort to prove it. His legacy so far is that of a great power forward who had all the God given tools to make a lasting mark on this game and was well on his way when he made the ill fated decision regarding Steve Moore. His career, along with that of Naslund, Morrison, and Crawford (not to mention Moore, of course) have all gone drastically downhill. He really needs a strong finish to his career, one that includes a Stanley Cup, to help dilute the impact of that horrible moment on his legacy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozen-Man 144 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 I hear what you're saying. I think it Bertuzzi's case, he still has a lot to prove and is giving every effort to prove it. His legacy so far is that of a great power forward who had all the God given tools to make a lasting mark on this game and was well on his way when he made the ill fated decision regarding Steve Moore. His career, along with that of Naslund, Morrison, and Crawford (not to mention Moore, of course) have all gone drastically downhill. He really needs a strong finish to his career, one that includes a Stanley Cup, to help dilute the impact of that horrible moment on his legacy. :clap: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 Seriously? I have more of a life than to look up who may or may not be available for trade NHL wide next off-season. The idea was Bert is a patch, as was Williams (for a hudler and hossa whom we couldn't both afford, before losing both). We got tied up at the end of the trading season with a tight cap and Holland did what he could. Next year (especially with 4 potential retirements), the Red Wings could be a very different animal. If you're going to make a claim the very least you could do is back it up. I'm not saying you shoudl go look it up but it would have been nice if you knew the answer before shooting your mouth off. On top of that, trades are all fine and good but no way does Chicago make a trade with us and at the end of the day you have to give up assets to acquire anyone via the trade route. Why would you chose to give up assets when someone who is producing, working hard, fitting into your system, and has become much more than a patch wants to re-sign? If you actually think there are players on Carolina worth taking over Bertuzzi at his price tag your dreaming. Talk about an absolutely ignorant post and even more ignorant response. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 Who's gonna take the bait? What bait? Lids needs to hang em up, we need the Cap space. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtomicPunk 296 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 I love all the "lids needs to retire" statements. So we can play amateur GM with the money he is making. At 40 years old, he is still better than 95% of the defensemen in the NHL. Realize THAT. Show some respect to #5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grim 5 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 you guys are squabbling over semantics. Look at Kenny's track record... he's a softie for retreads. consider us lucky that Schneider and Dandenault haven't gotten calls. If Big Bert wants to be here, you can guarantee that Ken will table a decent offer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CaliWingsNut Report post Posted January 21, 2010 If you're going to make a claim the very least you could do is back it up. I'm not saying you shoudl go look it up but it would have been nice if you knew the answer before shooting your mouth off. On top of that, trades are all fine and good but no way does Chicago make a trade with us and at the end of the day you have to give up assets to acquire anyone via the trade route. Why would you chose to give up assets when someone who is producing, working hard, fitting into your system, and has become much more than a patch wants to re-sign? If you actually think there are players on Carolina worth taking over Bertuzzi at his price tag your dreaming. Talk about an absolutely ignorant post and even more ignorant response. Just because I'm not giving you some specific case to call insane (regardless of the example) doesn't prove anything. The team will be making major moves this off-season (which I did show) and I think Bert will be going too. My first post said it all.. I don't like his play, and don't like him as a wing. If it were my call, he would released at the end of his contract. So keep praising him, and we'll see again once the team is healthy again what you think then. He was hired as a replacement to play second and third line minutes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elriqo28 2 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 I'm for it. Just stop taking dumb lazy penalties....specifically; STOP HOOKING EVERYONE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings1110 184 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 i think he will settle for 1.5 a year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings1110 184 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 what if...........lidstom signs for like 1.5 also Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted January 21, 2010 What bait? Lids needs to hang em up, we need the Cap space. You need to hang em up so that there will be less brain-hurting facepalming on these boards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 What bait? Lids needs to hang em up, we need the Cap space. So our leading point producer on the back end thats among the league's top defensemen in defensive GVT, who's likely to take a considerable hometown discount if he keeps playing, needs to hang them up so we can get... cap space? Cap space to do what, exactly? Find an inadequate replacement for him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 If you're going to make a claim the very least you could do is back it up. I'm not saying you shoudl go look it up but it would have been nice if you knew the answer before shooting your mouth off. On top of that, trades are all fine and good but no way does Chicago make a trade with us and at the end of the day you have to give up assets to acquire anyone via the trade route. Why would you chose to give up assets when someone who is producing, working hard, fitting into your system, and has become much more than a patch wants to re-sign? If you actually think there are players on Carolina worth taking over Bertuzzi at his price tag your dreaming. Talk about an absolutely ignorant post and even more ignorant response. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
