The Official Is Val Filppula Overpaid Poll

[skyphoenix 153]

Filppula plays a role on this team and while he doesn't score that many goals, he is a great playmaker for $3mil a season. I have absolutely no problem with his salary.

[wmubronco420 25]

Your argument is not logical; otherwise, paying Ovechkin was a terrible move on the part of the Caps.

WTF are you talking about? OV scored 52 goals in his first season in the NHL, of course they had to pay him.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

I said no based on two factors:

1. His current play. Since Val returned from his injury only Datsyuk has scored more points among Red Wings forwards. If Filppula could stretch this level of play (~0.7ppg) out over a full season he'd put 57pts up. 57pts is just fine for a 3 million dollar player. Clearly I'm being generous by not accounting for the games before his injury but that generosity comes in to play because of reason #2.

2. He's young and still finding his way. Last season he was overpaid, no question, had he been healthy his play this season likely would've been good enough for his payscale. The wager you make with contracts like the one Val signed is that by the end of his contract you're getting a bargain and the average price you paid accross the contract is smaller than the player's average level of play warrants.

[thegerkin 189]

Why is Tyler Bozak even on that list?? He's played 11 NHL games TOTAL! Filp has played 264 regular season games. I'm all for comparisons, but at least use someone comparable.

And for the record, I voted "No" on Filppula being overpaid.

[wmubronco420 25]

Your argument is not logical; otherwise, paying Ovechkin was a terrible move on the part of the Caps.

id like to note this as the most ridiculous post in LGW history

[clutchngrab 12]

Somebody put one up for Rafailski

No s***. Where's the 45 pages on how much he's overpaid?

[clutchngrab 12]

id say that hes a bit overpaid because id say bertuzzi and clears produce at least as much or more than he does, or at least fit in the team better and they make less. but hes not much overpaid, id like that number a bit bellow what it is.

I don't agree - neither of these guys are nearly as effective in all 3 zones - though admittedly they pot a few more goals.

[seeinred 1,488]

Of course he is overpaid

Gee, a Swede trashing a Finn, what a surprise

Maybe for the kind of discounts we're used to Red Wings taking, Filppula is overpaid. But when you compare him to players with similar contracts league-wide, I'd have a very, very tough time calling him overpaid.

[Theophany 110]

WTF are you talking about? OV scored 52 goals in his first season in the NHL, of course they had to pay him.

Yes, more than three times the money Filppula has made.

By points alone, he's lived up to his contract (compare his points per million dollars to Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Ovie, etc).

He's also an extremely valuable role player on defense though, providing needed defensive depth to anchor the second or third line, depending on where Zetterberg is playing.

He may never be a first line player, but he's not making $6M a year like Datsyuk is, either.

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

Yes, but marginally. Not a big deal.

[Rice 42]

theres a huge difference between the past and the future: One has been done, while the other might be done. see the difference?

$3 million for a very defensively sound center who has 60-70 point potential isn't a bad contract. End of story.

[Z and D for the C 712]

$3 million for a very defensively sound center who has 60-70 point potential isn't a bad contract. End of story.

This. Right now, he is at least a 50 point second line center who is excellent defensively. He very well may grow into a player who will probably peak at upwards of 70 for maybe a season or two, but put up 60ish points consistently.

[TheOwl 77]

Flipulla gets paid just fine. He's a 3 million dollar player on any team. If were going to talk about people getting overpaid, start with Rafalski.

[13dangledangle 965]

I love Flip and my answer was no...I think of Sammy being let go and the year he's having now (but Ive always hated Sammy)...I couldn't imagine seeing Flip traded playing with Nash on his wing and getting 75+ points a season! Let's keep him around.

However I still want to see either Flip~Dats or Flip~Z or Flip~Dats~Z (in that order)

Edited February 2, 2010 by 13dangledangle

[clutchngrab 12]

id like to note this as the most ridiculous post in LGW history

Oh, I don't know, there is an Ericcson bashing thread going on now as we speak that is a contender - and that's just the active ones.

[ShanahanMan 473]

Somebody put one up for Rafailski

I Laughed Out Loud.

[AtomicPunk 296]

The answer for me is Yes. The guy just seems like he is not all there yet in terms of his game.

And he can't finish. There's that.

[titanium2 867]

Anyway to determine how many votes came from IP addresses from Finland?

[thegerkin 189]

Anyway to determine how many votes came from IP addresses from Finland?

lol, Fins stuffing the ballot box!

[titanium2 867]

lol, Fins stuffing the ballot box!

I don't know how popular he is in Finland though. No way he's as popular in Finland as Lidstrom/Zetterberg for Sweden.

Who is the most popular Finnish player to the country of Finland? Is it Salami? One of the Jokinens perhaps?

[seeinred 1,488]

I don't know how popular he is in Finland though. No way he's as popular in Finland as Lidstrom/Zetterberg for Sweden.

Who is the most popular Finnish player to the country of Finland? Is it Salami? One of the Jokinens perhaps?

Pretty sure it's Teemu. Then Saku. I think. I think Val's down a good way on the list.

[FinWing 26]

I find it funny to argue Filppula's overpayment when our bona-fide star players have disappointed so far. So far this season, Filppula has outproduced everyone except Datsyuk and Zetterberg offensively (points/game) and provided solid defensive play which we all know is typical of him. This team has some real problems and Filppula is not one of them.

[Guest DatsyukianDeke13]

You might want to pull out the riot shield before the Swedes attack you....seems to be a recurring theme in this thread haha

[seeinred 1,488]

This team has some real problems and Filppula is not one of them.

I think that's one of the best ways to look at it, really. I mean pretty much every one on this team is overpaid this year. But I still don't think Fil is.

[b-random 0]

Helm/Filppula/Kronwall (before the injury) appear to be the only Red Wings players that are improving their game. For awhile I thought Filppula was a bit overpaid and wanted to see him delt for a guy with more scoring ability, but I think he's such a solid 2-way player that he's worth his contract.