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Okayi ts been a while but heres another one of those threads to talk about a possble grinder for the 4th line that is hard to play against. Nill said they have people in mind to fill the role of the vacated Brad May so they might go for someone who is a little like Drake and a little like May.

He plays over 8 minutes a game so hes better then some of the fighter types we've had here in the past who only play like 5. He is won of the best face off men in the league at over 62% for the season.

For his limited time he put up a pretty high number of hits, and he led the league in fighting majors. He showed at the AHL level he can score goals so I'm sure if he gets the puck around the net and down low he knows what he's doing.

What do you guys think?

http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/91150

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Very active fighter, although not really the best at it. Brilliant at faceoffs but never really put the points up at Tampa for whatever reason.

I'd approve. Kenny wouldn't.

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I don't know much about Konopka, but I don't think you can call him one of the best faceoff men in the league. Yes he was 62%, but that was on a total of 462 faceoffs. Compared to Lecavalier taking 1449 and Stamkos taking 1004.

He must be pretty good at faceoffs, but if he were a specialist, I'm guessing they'd have him out there taking more draws.

All that being said, I'd love for the Wings to add some sandpaper.

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Our team is basically set in stone. We're the losing 2009-2010 Red Wings with the addition of Hudler.

No we're not. There will be no Maltby. No Williams. No Lilja. No Lebda. Probably no Meech. There's going to be at least one and probably two more additions to the roster.

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Our team is basically set in stone. We're the losing 2009-2010 Red Wings with the addition of Hudler.

We're gonna add a grinder. None of the RFAs have resigned theres a chance Eaves and Miller could be let go for all we know( I don't think Eaves will but hopefully Miller is gone )

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No we're not. There will be no Maltby. No Williams. No Lilja. No Lebda. Probably no Meech. There's going to be at least one and probably two more additions to the roster.

Good point.

That's addition by subtraction right there. The loss of Lillypads is the only one that gives me pause, depending on who fills his role and which Ericsson shows up this season.

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He's #1 on my wishlist.Skates fairly well,good on faceoffs (as mentioned),will throw with anyone.Just a great team player.I'd love to have him here.He'd be dirt cheap as well.He'd take care of the majority of the rough stuff.I'd love to see him in a Wings sweater.

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I don't know much about Konopka, but I don't think you can call him one of the best faceoff men in the league. Yes he was 62%, but that was on a total of 462 faceoffs. Compared to Lecavalier taking 1449 and Stamkos taking 1004.

He must be pretty good at faceoffs, but if he were a specialist, I'm guessing they'd have him out there taking more draws.

All that being said, I'd love for the Wings to add some sandpaper.

He's not really a specialist but he could be one day. Last year was his first full season in the NHL so he wouldn't be given that role yet even if he was worthy. You also wouldn't have him out there in those situations when you have Vinny L that is good on the draw and a great hockey player.

No we're not. There will be no Maltby. No Williams. No Lilja. No Lebda. Probably no Meech. There's going to be at least one and probably two more additions to the roster.

There better not be a Maltby. He would just take up a spot of a guy who could play Maltbys role better then him. If we resign Malts but don't sign Burish, who is basically a tougher Maltby clone then I would be pissed.

Burish isn't even my first choice of players to sign but over Maltby I would love him.

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I'd be more than happy if the Wings picked up Konopka. He has the ability to put up some points and isn't afraid to throw them with anyone. That mic'd video is great- I love how he goes after Stortini. Here's another example of him being a good policeman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D40sIBQAPvE&feature=player_embedded#!

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I'd be more than happy if the Wings picked up Konopka. He has the ability to put up some points and isn't afraid to throw them with anyone. That mic'd video is great- I love how he goes after Stortini. Here's another example of him being a good policeman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D40sIBQAPvE&feature=player_embedded#!

It really would be nice to have someone on the wings who is willing to step in like that when a cheap shot happens. If that was this last year after May was gone noone would've even done a thing. Our PP would've been our enforcer :rolleyes:

With a guy liek Konopka or May in the lineup we probably would've had a few guys willing to step in because they know someone has their back and a tough guy makes every one play a little tougher which is nice.

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Konopka would be great, but would kenny really sign this guy? lol

ASSETS: Comes to play every night and isn't afraid of dishing out punishment. Possesses sound defensive acumen and plays with energy. Can drop the gloves and is also good on face-offs.

FLAWS: Is limited in the offensive zone and only suited for a fourth-line role. Must avoid taking too many bad penalties that place him team in a tough spot.

CAREER POTENTIAL: Rugged depth forward.

sounds like he would fit the system perfectly. I hope we sign this guy instead of someone like maltby.

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If he can play well besides fighting as well, then I've got nothing against it. Players who don't do anything else but fight are pretty useless nowadays.

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If he can play well besides fighting as well, then I've got nothing against it. Players who don't do anything else but fight are pretty useless nowadays.

So useless I could name you about 10 or 15 of them in the NHL off the top of my head. Not that Im going to, obviously.

Aaron Downey anyone?

Depends on the make up of the team.

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Konopka would be great, but would kenny really sign this guy? lol

ASSETS: Comes to play every night and isn't afraid of dishing out punishment. Possesses sound defensive acumen and plays with energy. Can drop the gloves and is also good on face-offs.

FLAWS: Is limited in the offensive zone and only suited for a fourth-line role. Must avoid taking too many bad penalties that place him team in a tough spot.

CAREER POTENTIAL: Rugged depth forward.

sounds like he would fit the system perfectly. I hope we sign this guy instead of someone like maltby.

I didn't know about his defensive game but if its good then I've heard enough. 62% on faceoffs and a solid defensive guy that hits and fights. Thats a classic 4th line guy right there.

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So useless I could name you about 10 or 15 of them in the NHL off the top of my head. Not that Im going to, obviously.

Aaron Downey anyone?

Depends on the make up of the team.

I'm talking about guys like Colton Orr who really don't add anything besides that fighting element. It would've been different ten or twenty years ago. Players like Orr are easy to ignore by opponents and they tend to take stupid penalties trying to instigate a fight, because they can't play regular hockey.

As I said, if Konopka can play regular shifts, keep up the pace and kill some penalties I have nothing against it.

Players like Colton Orr, Riley Cote are pretty useless. If you can't play normal competitive hockey besides fighting you don't belong in the NHL.

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Players like Colton Orr, Riley Cote are pretty useless. If you can't play a regular shifts besides fighting you don't belong in the NHL.

And yet they're there and just last offseason Kenny tried to sign the very Colton Orr you're talking about. What does that tell you?

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I'm talking about guys like Colton Orr who really don't add anything besides that fighting element. It would've been different ten or twenty years ago. Players like Orr are easy to ignore by opponents and they tend to take stupid penalties trying to instigate a fight, because they can't play regular hockey.

As I said, if Konopka can play regular shifts, keep up the pace and kill some penalties I have nothing against it.

Players like Colton Orr, Riley Cote are pretty useless. If you can't play a regular shifts besides fighting you don't belong in the NHL.

While there are some players like that still in the NHL (Godard, Cote, Koci), I would be careful to call Orr a one-dimensional player. Orr can play a regular shift and has played all 82 games the past two seasons. IMO he is the best enforcer in the league and his 1m salary is evidence of this.

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And yet they're there and just last offseason Kenny tried to sign the very Colton Orr you're talking about. What does that tell you?

That he avoided a mistake there. It's not like Kenny doesn't make any mistakes. Just re-signed Bertuzzi and gave media comments about re-siging Maltby.

While there are some players like that still in the NHL (Godard, Cote, Koci), I would be careful to call Orr a one-dimensional player. Orr can play a regular shift and has played all 82 games the past two seasons. IMO he is the best enforcer in the league and his 1m salary is evidence of this.

How is he the best "enforcer" exactly? Do you mean he's best because he's good at fighting or best because he's the best player of all the enforcers?

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That he avoided a mistake there. It's not like Kenny doesn't make any mistakes. Just re-signed Bertuzzi and gave media comments about re-siging Maltby.

How is he the best "enforcer" exactly? Do you mean he's best because he's good at fighting or best because he's the best player of all the enforcers?

And signed that finnish plug Filpulla with no potential at 28 years old. Yeah he does make mistakes :cool:

Orr is a good all around player. Just as good as a guy like Draper at this point in his career but is also probably the second toughest guy in the league. He's one of the best at his role.

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