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#1 wings1110

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 05:32 PM

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 05:40 PM

Good. Playing at the Palace would have been brutal.

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 05:56 PM

Good. Dave Bing seems like a more reasonable guy than Detroit has seen in quite a long time. Good luck getting the council to help though.
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Posted 30 June 2010 - 06:21 PM

:thumbup: This is very good. Though the Joe has its faults, I couldn't have dealt with the Palace.
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Posted 30 June 2010 - 06:47 PM

Well if there's any truth to the rumours of the Ilitch's getting involved in purchasing the Pistons I wouldn't be too surprised if the Red Wings played in the Palace.

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 06:49 PM

Well if there's any truth to the rumours of the Ilitch's getting involved in purchasing the Pistons I wouldn't be too surprised if the Red Wings played in the Palace.

Ilitches would never go outside of downtown especially with their babies being the Wings and Tigers and the absolute friggen outcry there would be for people having to go the Palace (although a beautiful arena) for Wings games. Should be old time barn downtown and the Palace won't be the place.
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Posted 30 June 2010 - 06:58 PM

I never want the Wings playing in the same building as the Pistons.
It is insulting to both organizations.

Plus I love the Joe. The only reason they want to build a new one is so they can take seats away from the fans and build corporate suites. Eff that, Hockey is blue collar. Rich pricks can go watch polo and leave the mid level seats to the fans.
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Posted 30 June 2010 - 08:03 PM

I can honestly say that I wouldn't be able to make it to a single game if they played at the Palace. I went to 12 last year at 'The Joe.' I live south of town, and that would just make for a brutal night if I were to try and get up there and back.

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 08:39 PM

I wouldn't have minded playing in the Palace for a brief stint while the new arena was built.

The Palace is an absolutely outstanding stadium. It wouldn't be the end of the world in my opinion.

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 11:25 PM

While I'd love for the Wings to be able to play in a new arena within the next few years, I sure am going to miss going to the Joe. Nostalgia galore.

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 11:37 PM

In a perfect world we'd see a new Joe built near by with all the amenities but the same JLA feeling inside and the same name.
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Posted 30 June 2010 - 11:38 PM

Ilitches would never go outside of downtown especially with their babies being the Wings and Tigers and the absolute friggen outcry there would be for people having to go the Palace (although a beautiful arena) for Wings games. Should be old time barn downtown and the Palace won't be the place.

I honestly find it hard to believe the Ilitch's would continue to play in the Joe if they do end up being part of a group that purchases the Pistons/Palace combo.

Isn't there a need for some significant repairs needed for the Joe (mind you not the major renovation, but needed reapirs that'll run a reported $10-$15 million), and it'll come outta the Ilitch's pockets if they were to sign on for a few more years to play in the Joe.

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 11:42 PM

Yeah but 10-15 mil is chump change compared to all the necessary s*** they'd have to do to accommodate the move to the Palace. We're talking about sponsorship changes, employees that would either not have a job or have to be relocated, the change in schedules for both the Pistons and the Red Wings and the necessary switches from court to ice each time the teams had home games. It would likely be much more expensive to relocate until the new arena is built. Plus, we get to see them in the Joe for at least one more year, and that's just fine with me.

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 11:49 PM

Yeah but 10-15 mil is chump change compared to all the necessary s*** they'd have to do to accommodate the move to the Palace. We're talking about sponsorship changes, employees that would either not have a job or have to be relocated, the change in schedules for both the Pistons and the Red Wings and the necessary switches from court to ice each time the teams had home games. It would likely be much more expensive to relocate until the new arena is built. Plus, we get to see them in the Joe for at least one more year, and that's just fine with me.

I know there would be a painful transition with the move to the Palace, but in the end it'll make sense.

If they do invest in the Pistons/Palace - why pay more for getting possibly less?

The way I see it the Ilitch's want to have their new arena behind the FOX Theatre within several years so the Palace wouldn't be a permanant home for the Red Wings - yet.

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 02:31 AM

I wasn't talking about it being a permanent home. I was talking with the 10-15 mil that is proposed for renovations for the Joe will be less costly and less painful for the already struggling Detroit economy in the end. If Illitch is smart (which we all know he is), he knows this fact and knows that people working for Olympia Entertainment will be forever indebted to him if he keeps the Wings at the Joe for a few more seasons while a new arena is built.

Like I said, it would definitely be more costly if the Red Wings moved to Auburn Hills with everything that would have to go into making it a full-time season dual arena.

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 04:21 AM

Considering the hockey and basketball seasons run concurrently, it would be a scheduling disaster if the Wings moved to the Palace.

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 08:04 AM

I wasn't talking about it being a permanent home. I was talking with the 10-15 mil that is proposed for renovations for the Joe will be less costly and less painful for the already struggling Detroit economy in the end. If Illitch is smart (which we all know he is), he knows this fact and knows that people working for Olympia Entertainment will be forever indebted to him if he keeps the Wings at the Joe for a few more seasons while a new arena is built.

Like I said, it would definitely be more costly if the Red Wings moved to Auburn Hills with everything that would have to go into making it a full-time season dual arena.

I hear what you're saying, and for what it's worth I agree 100% with ya...I too would rather see the Red Wings stay at the Joe instead of moving.

That said - I could see Ilitch swing a deal with the city that'll be favourable for both parties; Ilitch continues to play at the Joe, pay the lease, and for the upkeep of the Joe/Cobo Hall/Cobo Arena, and when the time comes for a new home for the Red Wings the city will give Ilitch some "assistance" in any way/shape/form.

Considering the hockey and basketball seasons run concurrently, it would be a scheduling disaster if the Wings moved to the Palace.

Many current NHL teams share their arena with an NBA team; kinda sucks, but it can be done, and it will be done if Ilitch wants to...The NHL schedule has been released - yet the NBA schedule has not...There's time technically speaking to get things done in order for both teams to play at the Palace though I'd rather see the Red Wings stay at the Joe.

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 07:30 PM

Considering the hockey and basketball seasons run concurrently, it would be a scheduling disaster if the Wings moved to the Palace.


Almost every other major city that has an NBA & NHL team share an arena including Toronto, Chicago, New York City, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, Boston, Atlanta, Washington DC, Denver, Dallas. They make it work you can bet the Palace would manage. It's a fantastic venue but I dunno it would just feel so wierd for it to be the Wings permanent home. I don't think I could deal with that emotionally. Temporary while Olympia II is being built downton fine -- but not "home".

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 08:33 PM

I highly doubt that the Palace would ever become the Wing's permanent home. In every report that even mentions them moving there always states that it would only be done while a new arena is being built.

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 10:16 PM

Considering the hockey and basketball seasons run concurrently, it would be a scheduling disaster if the Wings moved to the Palace.

No, many arenas balance an NBA and NHL team. The Staples Center in LA is actually home to two NBA franchises in addition to the Kings.
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