Guest Crymson Report post Posted October 28, 2010 We haven't made it to the finals since Kopecky left. s***. You're right. We really need him back so that he can get injured once again and, in doing so, pave the way for a much more competent player to take his place in the lineup... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Heaten Report post Posted October 29, 2010 Well, I didn't say Hossa was the reason Chicago won the Cup, but the guy I quoted said we have the best GM (which I don't dispute) and was glad he signed the guy who wins us Cups and not Hossa. So, he hasn't gotten us a Cup yet since Holland chose him over Hossa. I put the there because it was a tongue in cheek statement, sort of like saying the Wings haven't been able to win a Cup without McCarty. His point was Franznen scores so he is gonna win us Cups. My point was Hossa doesn't, yet he won a Cup. (since the decision) You guys are WAY too sensitive... (BTW, We haven't won anything since Zetterberg re-signed either!) One scores HUGE (and a lot) of playoff goals. One doesn't not. Pretty easy to understand... well, I thought. Guess not? Playoff beast = playoff flop (in your logic). By the way, Wings have not made the WCF since Howard has been in net. Maybe he's the reason (again, using your logic). Bottom line, if you want stanely cups, you sign a player like Franzen. Best playoff forward since lockout. And Hossa seems to be injury prone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted October 29, 2010 How Hossa gets the playoff flop title and Datsyuk doesn't... I have no clue. Hossa has been a very good playoff performer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted October 29, 2010 So what is a CORE when you consider injuries? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted October 29, 2010 Guess the CORE just got a little more rotten. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted October 29, 2010 How Hossa gets the playoff flop title and Datsyuk doesn't... I have no clue. Hossa has been a very good playoff performer. He has? Based on what? Hossa has had 2 good playoff years in his career and one of them was when he played wing on Crosby's line. Hell even Bill Guerin had a good playoff playing with Crosby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
henrik40 76 Report post Posted October 29, 2010 He has? Based on what? Hossa has had 2 good playoff years in his career and one of them was when he played wing on Crosby's line. Hell even Bill Guerin had a good playoff playing with Crosby. But, but.... Crosby sucks! Right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CaliWingsNut Report post Posted October 29, 2010 But, but.... Crosby sucks! Right? Please don't go there. There's enough treads derailed by that name as it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LarryMurphySpecial Report post Posted October 29, 2010 He has? Based on what? Hossa has had 2 good playoff years in his career and one of them was when he played wing on Crosby's line. Hell even Bill Guerin had a good playoff playing with Crosby. 10 points in 12 games while being a team's best defensive forward doesn't count as a good playoff? Datsyuk only has had 3 good playoff years too, and all of those he was playing with better players than Hossa did with the exception of the one year of Crosby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted October 29, 2010 We haven't made it to the finals since Kopecky left. I think you are all missing the real point of this thread...it's not how many cups or finals or WC finals appearances it's been with or without Hossa, Franzen, Kopecky or. The real link to success LEINO. SC Appearance since LEINO deal: PHI 1 - DET 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted October 29, 2010 I think you are all missing the real point of this thread...it's not how many cups or finals or WC finals appearances it's been with or without Hossa, Franzen, Kopecky or. The real link to success LEINO. SC Appearance since LEINO deal: PHI 1 - DET 0 Except Detroit had Leino in 2009. He even played a few games in the Final. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted October 29, 2010 I see that "a couple of weeks" has now become "a few weeks". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,963 Report post Posted October 30, 2010 I see that "a couple of weeks" has now become "a few weeks". ...and THAT is where Hossa and Franzen are equal. Injury prone... along with Kronwall, Zetterberg... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Heaten Report post Posted October 30, 2010 ...and THAT is where Hossa and Franzen are equal. Injury prone... along with Kronwall, Zetterberg... Using that logic, Toews, Bolland and Campbell are also injury prone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted October 30, 2010 Could have used him tonight. Maybe he could have played goal - couldn't have been much worse than Turco tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tommy_Like_Wingy 25 Report post Posted October 31, 2010 This. Hossa added absolutely nothing to their entire run last year that couldn't have been achieved without him. Didn't you see their series against Nashville? Hossa doesn't put in that OT winner and I guarantee Chicago would've gotten knocked out the first round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted October 31, 2010 Didn't you see their series against Nashville? Hossa doesn't put in that OT winner and I guarantee Chicago would've gotten knocked out the first round. .... he tapped the puck in. Anyone could have one-timed that puck into the net. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FIBS 35 Report post Posted October 31, 2010 Could have used him tonight. Maybe he could have played goal - couldn't have been much worse than Turco tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted October 31, 2010 Yes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FIBS 35 Report post Posted October 31, 2010 (edited) Yes? nevermind Edited October 31, 2010 by FIBS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted October 31, 2010 nevermind Go home. Why do you keep coming here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted October 31, 2010 nevermind I think what you're trying to say here is, "Oops, sorry, I didn't realize you were talking about his sieve performance last night against the last place Oilers." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted October 31, 2010 Didn't you see their series against Nashville? Hossa doesn't put in that OT winner and I guarantee Chicago would've gotten knocked out the first round. Oh right, you mean the same game where Hossa sits in the box for five minutes and the Predators simply needed to keep the puck in Chicago's end for the rest of the powerplay? That game where Erat gave the puck away for Kane to score? Yeah. If not for Hossa... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Heaten Report post Posted October 31, 2010 Oh right, you mean the same game where Hossa sits in the box for five minutes and the Predators simply needed to keep the puck in Chicago's end for the rest of the powerplay? That game where Erat gave the puck away for Kane to score? Yeah. If not for Hossa... This. Epic melt down by Nashville more than a heroic comeback by Chicago. Preds s*** the bed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites