sputman 1,268 Report post Posted February 7, 2011 Damn. I agree with everything Cherry said here. yeah, i tuned in expecting a bill o'reilly type drivel supporting a north american person for doing something disgraceful, but shaming a non-north american person for doing something completely similar. 1 Vladifan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted February 7, 2011 (edited) I like the don cherry vid with him when he asked if he would have done that to Yzerman when probert was around. Well thats a big HELL NO! I've always liked him, but liked him even more after he nearly completed his "gutless backstabbing little f*ck" sentence while on air. That would have been epic, and I would have donated money to pay for the fine he would have received. Edited February 7, 2011 by Hockeytown0001 2 Vladifan and ChelisChick reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sleepwalker 512 Report post Posted February 7, 2011 I would never want to see a player do something like that again. The first time was disgusting enough. Normally, I'd agree with you, but not here. If anyone deserves that s***, its Cooke. Dude is a scumbag piece of s*** that does nothing other than try to injure and end other players careers. I'd personally love to see him get it. Paybacks a *****. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vladifan 680 Report post Posted February 7, 2011 I just emailed the NHL officials association and tried to email the Players Association too. The players' one didn't go through but the Officials' one did. I had to confirm I sent it by replying to their standard response email. Ya know you can't do much but that is something we could do. Probably a voice in the wilderness but I'm still glad I did it. Normally, I'd agree with you, but not here. If anyone deserves that s***, its Cooke. Dude is a scumbag piece of s*** that does nothing other than try to injure and end other players careers. I'd personally love to see him get it. Paybacks a *****. Look at it this way. As bad as McSorley's hit was, he was a player out of control. I cannot imagine ANY player who is not insane, premeditatively going after another player - even Cooke - with that kind of malice aforethought. HE would have to be kicked out of the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted February 8, 2011 I go back and forth on Don Cherry thinking he is hilarious/entertaining at times then there are some WTF moments whenever I hear him infrequently, but I give him major kudos for this piece on Matt Cooke. I don't like getting outspoken on players, there aren't many that I really just dislike, but Matt Cooke has completely jumped near the top of the list in lightning fashion this year. He's scum. And I don't say that about a lot of players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted February 8, 2011 Not a fan of Don Cherry, but that was perfect. His passion, his concern, and his points were all spot-on. Cooke is a dangerous player. I can't believe one of the VS announcers tonight said he was a "big Cooke fan." Even Sidney "I'll Cry/Whine/Dive/Cheat/Do Whatever It Takes" Crosby won't defend Cooke, his own teammate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted February 8, 2011 Not a fan of Don Cherry, but that was perfect. His passion, his concern, and his points were all spot-on. Cooke is a dangerous player. I can't believe one of the VS announcers tonight said he was a "big Cooke fan." Even Sidney "I'll Cry/Whine/Dive/Cheat/Do Whatever It Takes" Crosby won't defend Cooke, his own teammate. IIRC, both Pierre and Milbury said they were big Cooke fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted February 8, 2011 So has Cooke been suspended for either the Savard or the Ovechkin hit? Unbelievable montage in the Cherry video though, so many elbows to the side of the head and knee-on-knees Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howeaboutthat 22 Report post Posted February 8, 2011 As has been said, in the era of Probert/Kocur et al this sort of thing was self-policing. You played dirty then you watched your back because a train would be coming for you. Unfortunately the modern game is in many ways faster and as a result teams can't carry an all-out enforcer but this should really be where those numpties in Toronto are stepping in. Toronto needs to be picking up where the enforcers left off but as we've seen, Toronto can't even make accurate calls on the simple matter of goals/non-goals, let alone calling out players for being dirty. The NHL is at a tipping point and it nees to decide which way it wants to go. Throw the instigator rule and allow teams, if they so wish, to police the ice themselves or start making decisions to stop players like Cooke attempting to end other players careers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kira 451 Report post Posted February 8, 2011 Matt Cooke is a repeat offender. He should be dealt with in appropriate fashion. I know it won't happen, but I just wonder how long it's going to take, or how many guys he puts out of the game with injuries before someone realizes this. I don't believe in head hunting, but in his case, I would make an exception. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sleepwalker 512 Report post Posted February 8, 2011 I just wonder how long it's going to take, or how many guys he puts out of the game with injuries before someone realizes this. Cooke is a Penguin. Unless he gets traded to another team and takes one of those dirty runs at Crosby, the league will never do anything to punish Cooke. As you suggested, having a headhunter go after, and take care of, Cooke is the only way he will ever get whats coming to him, unfortunately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted February 8, 2011 You guys are overreacting. Cooke is just a good ol North American boy whose aggression is misunderstood. 1 Frozen-Man reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howeaboutthat 22 Report post Posted February 8, 2011 You guys are overreacting. Cooke is just a good ol North American boy whose aggression is misunderstood. When even the NA boys flag waver-in-chief, Don Cherry, is criticising your play you may well have a problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted February 8, 2011 Still no suspension? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
henrik40 76 Report post Posted February 8, 2011 I knew Cooke was a repeat offender, but jesus, that montage in the Cherry video is ridiculous. Cooke has no business being on the ice. What a disgrace to the league. 5 sleepwalker, Original-Six, Electrophile and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ToMaToToWnWinGsFaN_24 Report post Posted February 8, 2011 still no suspension oh well..time to move on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travis 576 Report post Posted February 8, 2011 Crosby and his team have said they don't like Cooke when he does that stuff... They came out after the Savard hit and said that shouldn't be in the game. Wasn't, 'they' just Bill Guerin? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted February 8, 2011 Wasn't, 'they' just Bill Guerin? He's the only one I remember commenting on it as well... most of the other guys just tiptoed around it, or said "I haven't seen it" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kira 451 Report post Posted February 8, 2011 As stated in "Pirate Radio"..."Spoken like a five-star chicken." Of course, Andrew Ference comes out and says his teammate was wrong, and gets raked over the coals for it. I shouldn't be surprised that no one wants to come out and tell the truth about Cooke. Someone is going to get him. I don't know who, and I don't know when, but it's gonna happen. And it won't be pretty when it does. But if he expects to get sympathy when and if it happens, the only place he's gonna find it is the dictionary. 2 Vladifan and Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted February 8, 2011 Wasn't, 'they' just Bill Guerin? As far as I recall, you're correct. All Crosby said was (paraphrasing) "You don't like seeing a guy on the ice like that, whether it's a teammate or opposing player," and that the league needed to clarify things regarding headshots. The only condemnation on the Penguins came from Guerin (which is surprising, since he was just as much a ****** as the rest of that team). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted February 8, 2011 As far as I recall, you're correct. All Crosby said was (paraphrasing) "You don't like seeing a guy on the ice like that, whether it's a teammate or opposing player," and that the league needed to clarify things regarding headshots. The only condemnation on the Penguins came from Guerin (which is surprising, since he was just as much a ****** as the rest of that team). Guerin had been a ****** off the ice and was guilty of gooning it up at times, but I wouldn't say he was ever really a dirty player, got to at least give him that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted February 8, 2011 Am I the only one who thinks the Ovechkin hit really wasn't that bad? It may have been a stupid play but I don't think he meant to trip him like that. He went in for a big hit, Ovechkin got out of the way but not quite enough. Cooke is a ******, but I don't think this hit was that bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted February 8, 2011 Am I the only one who thinks the Ovechkin hit really wasn't that bad? It may have been a stupid play but I don't think he meant to trip him like that. He went in for a big hit, Ovechkin got out of the way but not quite enough. Cooke is a ******, but I don't think this hit was that bad. It's more the path he took to the hit, it was a suicide path and then the action of sticking the leg out when the hit was missed, regardless of the severity of the injury, is NEVER acceptable... that is how knees are blown out... 3 Vladifan, wings1110 and Frozen-Man reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted February 8, 2011 Exactly. He was going for a blindside hit initially and had to settle for kneeing. 2 Vladifan and stevkrause reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sleepwalker 512 Report post Posted February 8, 2011 I don't think he meant to trip him like that. You are obviously not familiar with Matt Cooke and his style of "play". If you were, there would be no question that it was intentional and he did mean to stick his knee out like that in an attempt to injure Ovechkin. Thats what he does. He throws his knees out in attempts to injure people. This is not the first, or fifth, or tenth time he has done it. He literally does it ALL the time. Dirtiest player on the ice by far. He makes guys like Pronger look like boy scouts. 2 stevkrause and Vladifan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
