Chara's hit on Pacioretty

[Guest Howard He Do It?!]

The injury is probably going to lead to a suspension which is really sad. The NHL suspends the injury and not the action.

[henrik40 76]

I honestly don't give a s*** about his intentions at this point. His victim has a broken ******* neck and severe concussion. Did anyone care that Bertuzzi didn't mean to break Moore's neck? Did anyone care that the guys piling on Bert and Moore afterwords almost certainly worsened Moore's neck injury? Nope.

If I plow into the back of a guy's car on the highway my insurance company doesn't give two s***s about my intent.

And really, can you ever prove someone's intentions? What looks as an intentional hit to me looks unintentional to someone else. You'll never know unless Chara says "yes I wanted to drill him into the stantion".

[Drake_Marcus 890]

And really, can you ever prove someone's intentions? What looks as an intentional hit to me looks unintentional to someone else. You'll never know unless Chara says "yes I wanted to drill him into the stantion".

Exactly. You have to suspend based on the rules and the outcome of the player's actions. Is it fair that Chara would be suspended for something he did by accident? Maybe I guess but it's also unfair that a guy is sitting in the hospital right now praying he'll be able to walk again.

[Rick Zombos Ghost 82]

maybe now they will finally make that curved glass instead of a hard angle wrapped in almost no padding. always thought that was a dumb part of the rink. that turnbuckle and the doors for the benches are dangerous as hell.

[Guest Howard He Do It?!]

Exactly. You have to suspend based on the rules and the outcome of the player's actions. Is it fair that Chara would be suspended for something he did by accident? Maybe I guess but it's also unfair that a guy is sitting in the hospital right now praying he'll be able to walk again.

You're overreaching here. I haven't heard a single report that he cannot walk or is paralyzed in any way. Not all neck injuries affect your ability to walk.

[Frozen-Man 144]

I have no dislike for Chara at all. I think he is a good player and generally not a dirty player.

That being said I disagree with some here who said he didn't know the stantion was there/coming up because of the speed of the game etc. While we may never know for sure, these guys are professional athletes who have spent the majority of their lives on similar rinks, the things that they can do on the ice come from an insane amount of time spent at the rink and I think they know every inch of their field in a way we can't really imagine. The stick control, instincts, handling, etc. that these guys have is something that we can't even grasp. It is nothing like our pickup/beer league games. I imagine that Chara knew exactly where he was on the ice as he I think he does almost all the time. I doubt he intended Pacioretty to be injured the way that he was but at minimum I think it was a reckless action where he disregarded the potential that such an impact/injury could occur.

[GSBrooks13 204]

I see a lot of back and forth here on the intent Chara had.. Watching the video, especially in slow motion it is really hard to say Chara didnt try to run him in.. So I gotta think Chara at least had some idea what he was doing, even if it was in the heat of the moment.. But I really really have a hard time trying to think Chara thought he would hit as hard as he did.. I mean it happens a few times per year where someone collides in that exact same spot then gets up and skates away.. But you add the speed they were going with the strength of Chara, you get this as your end result. I really don't see how they can NOT suspend this.. but at the same time I don't see it being very many games.. I'd say maybe 2 or 3 games. In my opinion it's a lot like if you were in a boxing match or a mma fight and you hit somebody hard enough to break their neck or give thema severe injury, obviously you hit them with the intent of hurting them but you never anticipated hurting them that badly..

Just a bad break all around.. But will make for an interesting time if Montreal and Boston happen to meet in the playoffs.. Although it's not like Montreal has anyone who is gonna be able to "deal with" Chara.. (If anyone says Hal Gill, I will come through the internet and slap you)

[HankthaTank 1,100]

His season is still most likely done with. Chara does this to a player in the winged wheel. This website and all the forums simultaneously explode.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

You're overreaching here. I haven't heard a single report that he cannot walk or is paralyzed in any way. Not all neck injuries affect your ability to walk.

I'm well aware. But tell me you wouldn't be terrified about walking again if you broke your neck.

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

The injury is probably going to lead to a suspension which is really sad. The NHL suspends the injury and not the action.

Or, in the case of a certain Penguins forward, the NHL suspends neither.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

Right - he suffered a fractured vertebrae, and no reports of any nerve/spinal cord damage.

True, but my point is that he's got a broken vertebrae in his neck and we both know that's the first thing that went through his mind when he found out.

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

[Guest Howard He Do It?!]

I'm well aware. But tell me you wouldn't be terrified about walking again if you broke your neck.

If I was moving all four of my limbs I probably wouldn't be too worried.

Edited March 9, 2011 by Howard He Do It?!

[Blaayze 25]

The injury is probably going to lead to a suspension which is really sad. The NHL suspends the injury and not the action.

Are you kidding? he clearly rode his face into the stanchion. If he wanted to rub him out, he could have forced him to the ice; but, instead he rides Pac's up and into the stanchion.

[GSBrooks13 204]

In that still shot it kinda looks more like Chara is just trying to push him aside and get by him so he can get to the puck first.. but then again thats just a still shot so it doesnt really mean much.

[Guest stinky fish taco]

awesome pic, setting as my desktop.

thanks.

[esteef 2,679]

Clearly he doesn't see the stantion.

esteef

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

awesome pic, setting as my desktop.

thanks.

You're making great on your purposeful effort to make people not hold you in very high regard.

[e_prime 1,936]

You're making great on your purposeful effort to make people not hold you in very high regard.

...and you're giving him the attention he desires.

[Guest Howard He Do It?!]

Are you kidding? he clearly rode his face into the stanchion. If he wanted to rub him out, he could have forced him to the ice; but, instead he rides Pac's up and into the stanchion.

You're missing the point of my post. If what Chara did was so irreprehensible he should be suspended regardless of any resulting injury to Pacioretty. A suspension should not only be used to punish a violation of the rules but it should be used to discourage similar future behavior. This is hardly the case in the NHL because your suspension is determined not on your actions but the results of your actions. That's the rule, not the exception.

Now, are you upset about the hit or the injury? You should be agreeing with my original post if you are upset with the hit, which your posts in here seem to indicate.

[Guest Howard He Do It?!]

awesome pic, setting as my desktop.

thanks.

You want a picture of a guy getting his neck fractured as your desktop wallpaper?

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

You want a picture of a guy getting his neck fractured as your desktop wallpaper?

Maybe you can send him a picture of Clint Marlachuk nearly bleeding to death on the ice. It was, after all, a fantastic result of a great skate sharpening tool. Right?

[GSBrooks13 204]

The more I watch the video at regular speed the more I think that the only reason the hit might be suspension worthy at all is because it was interference.. if the puck had of been on his stick and Chara made the exact same hit, it's just an unfortunate bad luck hit and everyone moves on.. but I think you have to have some sort of suspension just because it was a an illegal hit to begin with in a dangerous spot on the ice to top if off. I honestly don't think this deserves any more of a suspension than if Chara had slammed him into the boards anywheres else on the ice when he didnt have the puck..

Edited March 9, 2011 by GSBrooks13

[Guest Howard He Do It?!]

Maybe you can send him a picture of Clint Marlachuk nearly bleeding to death on the ice. It was, after all, a fantastic result of a great skate sharpening tool. Right?

I did a google search because the name wasn't ringing a bell but I immediately knew of the incident after seeing the pictures. My search turned up this picture.

[Guest stinky fish taco]

You want a picture of a guy getting his neck fractured as your desktop wallpaper?

yes. great pic. old time hockey.