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Sharks went with Moore instead of Nash? The asking price for Nash must be STEEEEEEEEP. I'm betting we see basically every team walk away from him fast if that is true that San Jose just dropped out.

Fun Fact on Moore:

From abell #SNTrade researcher re Dominic Moore dealt to SJ. Every nhl team has at least one player that, @ 1 time, was a teammate DMoore

Nick Cotsonika also agrees the Wings won't get Nash for the same reasons I reported earlier:

Can't see Jackets trading Nash within division. Babcock might love Nash and vice versa, but Jackets can't have Nash haunting them for years.

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Can't see Jackets trading Nash within division. Babcock might love Nash and vice versa, but Jackets can't have Nash haunting them for years.

The team who has Jeff Carter at a cap hit of $5 million+ for the next 10 years is worried about Nash "haunting" them? The inmates are truely running the asylum in Columbus.

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Heard it from a source, but Dennis Bernstein also reported it here, so you'll believe me.

Thanks mate I was at work away from the computer n my iphone and didn't have time to go looking so i had to ask when i read your post. I wonder who the sharks would have moved?

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I haven't heard exactly what the Sharks offered, but I heard Columbus wants at least a young, good dman along with a first rounder. They have also expressed interest in a calae starting goaltender, which is why Boston may have dropped out. They were not cool with the idea of giving up Rask.

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Lebrun said tonight that the jackets might not trade him to til the offseason and that the wings would be a huge possibility. He also claimed nash wanted to play for babcock.

To Detroit:

Rick Nash

Derek Dorsett

Marc Methot

To Columbus:

Tomas Tatar

Jakub Kindl

Corey Emmerton

Ty Conklin

Picks

Re-sign Lidstrom and Bertuzzi. Holmstrom retires, Let Hudler, Stuart, and Commodore walk.

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Zetterberg-Filppula-Nash

Abdelkader-Helm-Dorsett

Miller-Mursak-Cleary

-Eaves

Lidstrom-White

Kronwall-Methot

Ericsson-B.Smith

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To Detroit:

Rick Nash

Derek Dorsett

Marc Methot

To Columbus:

Tomas Tatar

Jakub Kindl

Corey Emmerton

Ty Conklin

Picks

Re-sign Lidstrom and Bertuzzi. Holmstrom retires, Let Hudler, Stuart, and Commodore walk.

Franzen-Datsyuk-Bertuzzi

Zetterberg-Filppula-Nash

Abdelkader-Helm-Dorsett

Miller-Mursak-Cleary

-Eaves

Lidstrom-White

Kronwall-Methot

Ericsson-B.Smith

I'd actually be kind of interested to receive Dorsett in this deal, he's got a bit of skill for a tough guy.

I think as far as what we would be dishing out, Conklin has no trade value and may be waived before the end of the year. With him out, I think it's gonna take a bigger name in that deal to get Nash from what I understand, like Flip or Franzen. I think they are more aiming for a now guy, a later guy, and a pick.

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I'd actually be kind of interested to receive Dorsett in this deal, he's got a bit of skill for a tough guy.

I think as far as what we would be dishing out, Conklin has no trade value and may be waived before the end of the year. With him out, I think it's gonna take a bigger name in that deal to get Nash from what I understand, like Flip or Franzen. I think they are more aiming for a now guy, a later guy, and a pick.

I wouldn't want to tinker with the team's chemistry that much right now, seeing as how we're playing stellar lately. If we're gonna make a serious push for Nash, lets just make a minor move or two at the deadline to gear us for the playoffs, see how everyone performs, and during the summer, decide who should be dealt for Nash.

As far as Columbus' activity at the deadline, they're obviously gonna be sellers. I think Sammy Pahlsson will be dealt to a contender for a pick/prospect, and they may look to the waiver wire to fill the holes left. I've heard that Columbus is really looking at Brad Staubitz, and Todd Richards wants Howson to bring him to Columbus. Assuming they deal a bottom 6 player or two, they could pluck him from waivers, once Minnesota calls him back up from Houston.

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To Detroit:

Rick Nash

Derek Dorsett

Marc Methot

To Columbus:

Tomas Tatar

Jakub Kindl

Corey Emmerton

Ty Conklin

Picks

So we get a star player and two other quality players in exchange for a good prospect, a third-pairing defensemen, a replaceable fourth-liner, and the worst backup goaltender in the league. How, oh HOW, is this in any way, shape, or form a deal that would benefit Columbus? If Howson made this trade, he'd be looking for a new job the next day, and he'd also probably be running from Jackets fans trying to murder him.

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Detroit is reportedly not on Nash's list of teams he wants to go to, which includes the Leafs, Bruins, Rangers, Sharks, and Kings.

Thank god! 7.8 mil until 2018 is too much to be committed to long term with Zetterberg and Franzen tied up to infinite contracts.

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Thank god! 7.8 mil until 2018 is too much to be committed to long term with Zetterberg and Franzen tied up to infinite contracts.

Why? Franzen will be retired by 2016, and his cap hit is actually pretty reasonable for a good top-six forward.

Although I agree that Nash's contract is ridiculous. Case in point, this year's stats:

Nash: 57 GP, 18-21-39

Hudler: 57 GP, 18-17-35

Now let's compare their ES numbers as Hudler plays the point on the PP and isn't really given any kind of comparable situation to score.

Nash: 57 GP, 14-11-25

Hudler: 57 GP, 17-12-29

Ice time at even strength?

Nash: 880:57, or 15:27 per game.

Hudler: 731:26, or 12:49 per game.

Hudler is better defensively than Nash, plays all three forward positions and can play the point on the PP. Nash plays one wing. Yet fans here want to trade high-end prospects AND top picks for Nash's $7.8m lifetime deal, but think bringing Hudler back in the $2.5-$3.5m range would be overpayment? Yes... let's agree to believe that.

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Why? Franzen will be retired by 2016, and his cap hit is actually pretty reasonable for a good top-six forward.

Although I agree that Nash's contract is ridiculous. Case in point, this year's stats:

Nash: 57 GP, 18-21-39

Hudler: 57 GP, 18-17-35

Now let's compare their ES numbers as Hudler plays the point on the PP and isn't really given any kind of comparable situation to score.

Nash: 57 GP, 14-11-25

Hudler: 57 GP, 17-12-29

Ice time at even strength?

Nash: 880:57, or 15:27 per game.

Hudler: 731:26, or 12:49 per game.

Hudler is better defensively than Nash, plays all three forward positions and can play the point on the PP. Nash plays one wing. Yet fans here want to trade high-end prospects AND top picks for Nash's $7.8m lifetime deal, but think bringing Hudler back in the $2.5-$3.5m range would be overpayment? Yes... let's agree to believe that.

I'm not sure Hudler could produce better numbers in Nash's position (the team's #1 forward, always the focus of the other team's best defensive players, etc) because Hudler thrives in a complementary role, but I see what you're getting at.

Let's put Rick Nash's cap hit into perspective here guys:

http://capgeek.com/leaders.php?type=CAP_HIT&position=-1&limit=25

He's got the 5th highest cap hit in the entire league and sits 70th points (behind guys like Micheal-freaking-Ryder). Nash has only had one season over 70pts and that was in 08-09. In his last two seasons he produced 66pts and 67pts. Those aren't the kind of numbers you'd expect from a guy making almost 8 million a season. At a minimum he should be producing at a point per game level. I don't care how bad his supporting cast is. When you carry the 5th largest cap hit in the league and are signed until 2018 you better produce. On top of this he's never had a chance to prove he's a playoff performer at the NHL level (NHL Playoffs: 1g 2a in 4gp).

I'm hesitant to sign a life-time contract with a guy who's historically an underachiever at his paygrade.

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Why? Franzen will be retired by 2016, and his cap hit is actually pretty reasonable for a good top-six forward.

Although I agree that Nash's contract is ridiculous. Case in point, this year's stats:

Nash: 57 GP, 18-21-39

Hudler: 57 GP, 18-17-35

Now let's compare their ES numbers as Hudler plays the point on the PP and isn't really given any kind of comparable situation to score.

Nash: 57 GP, 14-11-25

Hudler: 57 GP, 17-12-29

Ice time at even strength?

Nash: 880:57, or 15:27 per game.

Hudler: 731:26, or 12:49 per game.

Hudler is better defensively than Nash, plays all three forward positions and can play the point on the PP. Nash plays one wing. Yet fans here want to trade high-end prospects AND top picks for Nash's $7.8m lifetime deal, but think bringing Hudler back in the $2.5-$3.5m range would be overpayment? Yes... let's agree to believe that.

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Hudler praise

I agree that Nash is probably not worth is contract, but he's superior to Hudler in every category, far superior in some.

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I agree that Nash is probably not worth is contract, but he's superior to Hudler in every category, far superior in some.

I certainly hope he's superior to Hudler. He makes nearly triple the salary and was selected 1st overall in his draft year. Hudler's a sub-3million dollar cap hit, complementary player. The fact that you can even make favourable statistical comparisons between Jiri Hudler and Rick Nash speaks volumes about how poorly Nash's year has gone.

If Columbus's GM were to call Holland and say "How about a Nash for Hudler swap" we all know Holland's response would be "LULZ, sweet dude. I'm in!".

Also I think I should summarize Eva's post for some of you:

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Why? Franzen will be retired by 2016, and his cap hit is actually pretty reasonable for a good top-six forward.

Although I agree that Nash's contract is ridiculous. Case in point, this year's stats:

Nash: 57 GP, 18-21-39

Hudler: 57 GP, 18-17-35

Now let's compare their ES numbers as Hudler plays the point on the PP and isn't really given any kind of comparable situation to score.

Nash: 57 GP, 14-11-25

Hudler: 57 GP, 17-12-29

Ice time at even strength?

Nash: 880:57, or 15:27 per game.

Hudler: 731:26, or 12:49 per game.

Hudler is better defensively than Nash, plays all three forward positions and can play the point on the PP. Nash plays one wing. Yet fans here want to trade high-end prospects AND top picks for Nash's $7.8m lifetime deal, but think bringing Hudler back in the $2.5-$3.5m range would be overpayment? Yes... let's agree to believe that.

So let me try to understand what you are saying....

Hudler is a superior hockey player to Nash. So if Nash is offered to Detroit for something reasonable that Holland had no problem giving up, he should pass on it because he has Hudler. The same Hudler that is superior to Nash. You know we are talking about Rick Nash right? Not Nash Bridges...

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So let me try to understand what you are saying....

Hudler is a superior hockey player to Nash. So if Nash is offered to Detroit for something reasonable that Holland had no problem giving up, he should pass on it because he has Hudler. The same Hudler that is superior to Nash. You know we are talking about Rick Nash right? Not Nash Bridges...

The guy who wrote the comparisons of hudler and Nash forgot one important fact. Nash skating backwards is faster then hudler skating foward.

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The Flyers seem to be in the thick of things now.

PHILADELPHIA -- Could the Flyers be the leader in the race to acquire Columbus Blue Jackets captain Rick Nash?

For the third straight game, a top Blue Jackets executive is here in Philadelphia. General manager Scott Howson was in attendance last Saturday for the Flyers-Rangers game and had two long conversations with Flyers GM Paul Holmgren. Blue Jackets senior advisor Craig Patrick was here for Thursday for a game against the Buffalo Sabres, and today both Howson and Patrick are here. Howson again spent time talking with Holmgren prior to the game.

Sources tell CSNPhilly.com's Tim Panaccio that the Flyers are listening and having serious discussions about the cost of acquiring Nash. Panaccio speculates that cost could be high.

"As for the asking price for a player of Nash's caliber? Probably Sean Couturier and Brayden Schenn," Panaccio wrote. "But … it may be something else. It may be James van Riemsdyk, another player, plus goalie Sergei Bobrovsky. Or a high draft pick besides a player. The Flyers don't want to move Couturier or Schenn, but if I'm Howson, I want both those players."

Panaccio reports his source tells him the Flyers are more interested in adding another defenseman, like they did Thursday when they acquired Nicklas Grossman from the Dallas Stars. However, when asked if it was "unlikely" he'd go after a star player, Holmgren paused, and replied: "Unlikely? I don't know if I'd use that word, but probably not something that we're talking about at length."

NHL.com

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Why? Franzen will be retired by 2016, and his cap hit is actually pretty reasonable for a good top-six forward.

Although I agree that Nash's contract is ridiculous. Case in point, this year's stats:

Nash: 57 GP, 18-21-39

Hudler: 57 GP, 18-17-35

Now let's compare their ES numbers as Hudler plays the point on the PP and isn't really given any kind of comparable situation to score.

Nash: 57 GP, 14-11-25

Hudler: 57 GP, 17-12-29

Ice time at even strength?

Nash: 880:57, or 15:27 per game.

Hudler: 731:26, or 12:49 per game.

Hudler is better defensively than Nash, plays all three forward positions and can play the point on the PP. Nash plays one wing. Yet fans here want to trade high-end prospects AND top picks for Nash's $7.8m lifetime deal, but think bringing Hudler back in the $2.5-$3.5m range would be overpayment? Yes... let's agree to believe that.

WoW first time I seen you post in a long time.

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I doubt Bobrovsky would be a major piece in this trade. The Jackets already have one inconsistent goaltender (Mason); they don't need another.

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Surprised the Flyers are considering Nash if he wants to go there. I believe the Flyers are over the Cap floor? If so they would have to unload "a few" players. I would rather see Nash go there or Toronto lol instead of Vancouver or San Jose.

Someone on hockey night in Canada during the Hot seat said Columbus is looking for a top 6 forward, 2 prospects and a 1st rounder for Nash.

Is it worth it? Depends I say...

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Surprised the Flyers are considering Nash if he wants to go there. I believe the Flyers are over the Cap floor? If so they would have to unload "a few" players. I would rather see Nash go there or Toronto lol instead of Vancouver or San Jose.

Someone on hockey night in Canada during the Hot seat said Columbus is looking for a top 6 forward, 2 prospects and a 1st rounder for Nash.

Is it worth it? Depends I say...

James Van Riemsdyk would definitely be a part of the deal, if it happened. Maybe Columbus would take this guy back, considering Jared Boll is injured, and Samuel Pahlsson is likely to be dealt at the deadline:

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James Van Riemsdyk would definitely be a part of the deal, if it happened. Maybe Columbus would take this guy back, considering Jared Boll is injured, and Samuel Pahlsson is likely to be dealt at the deadline:

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Yeah James Van Riemsdyk would definitely be part of something. After Toronto getting killed tonight I wouldn't be surprised either about Burke thinking now of making a move for Nash. Should be interesting to see how this all pans out...

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Yeah James Van Riemsdyk would definitely be part of something. After Toronto getting killed tonight I wouldn't be surprised either about Burke thinking now of making a move for Nash. Should be interesting to see how this all pans out...

Yeah Burke's gonna make a couple changes before the deadline. Both Toronto and Philadelphia have decent assets to deal, so it will be interesting. Toronto is looking to deal Grabovski and possibly MacArthur. Philadelphia could deal (as discussed) Van Riemsdyk, and possibly Lilja (Considering they've just acquired 2 defensemen). I wouldn't be surprised if Shelley was dealt as well. I believe he is a free agent at the end of the season. He broke into the league with Columbus.

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