RedWingsExpert1988 8 Report post Posted January 26, 2013 A lot of you keep saying trade fil but he can actually skate, pass, PLAY DEFENSE, and sometimes score... the two players to trade on offense would be franzisca and old man cleary on offense to bring in a power foward and sniper... i wouldnt mind sammy being traded either... I dont care franzisca can score 30 goals a season... i will take a guy that scores 20 goals and forechecks and plays with more heart anyday. I keep reading these posts on here since 2009 about how he will start to pick it up again... When is he going to do that i have been waiting for 4 years now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted January 26, 2013 Flip's tradable. Franzen, not so much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,131 Report post Posted January 26, 2013 He hasn't served his time in purgatory yet. Brunner was the exception. Holland should learn from that....sometimes our kids expire in GR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted January 26, 2013 Emdog will still be here, i hope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) trade mule for boogisan rights Im happy with this FORWARDSValtteri Filppula ($3.395m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) Corey Perry ($5.325m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Damien Brunner ($2.500m) Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m) Drew Miller ($1.000m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m) Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) DEFENSEMENNiklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Zach Bogosian ($4.750m) Brian Lashoff ($2.250m) / Brendan Smith ($2.250m) Kyle Quincey ($3.775m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) Jakub Kindl ($1.050m) GOALTENDERSJimmy Howard ($3.000m) Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m) ------CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,211,667; BONUSES: $0CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $88,333 ------CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,211,667; BONUSES: $0CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $88,333 Edited January 26, 2013 by brett Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterPavel 115 Report post Posted January 26, 2013 Emdog will still be here, i hope. He plays hard all the time I gotta give him that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted January 26, 2013 League min is 750k next year, brett. Slight adjustment on emdog needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted January 26, 2013 League min is 750k next year, brett. Slight adjustment on emdog needed. He's already signed for next year. No adjustment needed. However, Howard, Flip and Perry are all pretty optimistic. Might save a bit on Brunner, Lashoff, and Smith, but not likely enough to fit that roster under the cap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) trade mule for boogisan rights Im happy with this FORWARDS Valtteri Filppula ($3.395m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) Corey Perry ($5.325m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Damien Brunner ($2.500m) Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m) Drew Miller ($1.000m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m) Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) DEFENSEMEN Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Zach Bogosian ($4.750m) Brian Lashoff ($2.250m) / Brendan Smith ($2.250m) Kyle Quincey ($3.775m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) Jakub Kindl ($1.050m) GOALTENDERS Jimmy Howard ($3.000m) Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m) ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,211,667; BONUSES: $0 CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $88,333 ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,211,667; BONUSES: $0 CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $88,333 I love it with a few changes: CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER My Custom Lineup FORWARDS Valtteri Filppula ($3.800m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Corey Perry ($5.800m) Gustav Nyquist ($1.000m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Damien Brunner ($2.500m) Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) Drew Miller ($1.000m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m) Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) / DEFENSEMEN Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Zach Bogosian ($5.000m) Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) / Brendan Smith ($1.750m) Brian Lashoff ($1.750m) / Kyle Quincey ($3.775m) Jakub Kindl ($1.050m) / GOALTENDERS Jimmy Howard ($4.000m) Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m) ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,341,667; BONUSES: $0 CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $958,333 Trade Franzen, Tatar, 2nd/Kindl for Rights to Bogosian. Nyquist Up. Amnesty Buyout Sammy, Colo I tweaked the salaries a bit too. I think howard gets 4mill likely. Edited January 26, 2013 by dirtydangles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted January 26, 2013 5.8 for Perry? Dream on. He will command upwards of 8. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted January 26, 2013 TATAR [] 13 [] PERRY 93 [] 40 [] 24 44 [] 43 [] 37 8 [] ANDERSSON [] 22 x 2 [] GIRARDI 55 [] REGEHR 28 [] 23 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted January 26, 2013 5.8 for Perry? Dream on. He will command upwards of 8. Are you for real? 8? Thats crosby money. With the new CBA that kind of money would be ridiculous for Perry. Benn got 5.5. I see Perry getting 6-6.5 max as an overpayment. With the new contract structures in the CBA you can't front load deals like before so players have to make a more balanced salary over their contract (aka can't start at 7mill and end at 700k near retirement). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted January 26, 2013 Are you for real? 8? Thats crosby money. With the new CBA that kind of money would be ridiculous for Perry. Benn got 5.5. I see Perry getting 6-6.5 max as an overpayment. With the new contract structures in the CBA you can't front load deals like before so players have to make a more balanced salary over their contract (aka can't start at 7mill and end at 700k near retirement). Perry won the FRICKING HART TROPHY. Thats the league's best player award, fyi. So why on earth is he gonna settle for Jamie Benn type money? Shiiiiiiiit, Benn wasnt even the TEAM'S best player, let alone NHL's. Wake up, pal. Youre thinking like Kenny Holland now!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) Perry won the FRICKING HART TROPHY. Thats the league's best player award, fyi. So why on earth is he gonna settle for Jamie Benn type money? Shiiiiiiiit, Benn wasnt even the TEAM'S best player, let alone NHL's. Wake up, pal. Youre thinking like Kenny Holland now!! also consider his 60pt season last year. Fil had even more points. If Perry isn't back to Hart level this year he hasn't earned 8+. Also take a look at Giroux, Eriksson's contracts then let me know what you think. Edited January 26, 2013 by dirtydangles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted January 26, 2013 also consider his 60pt season last year. Fil had even more points. If Perry isn't back to Hart level this year he hasn't earned 8+. Its in the bag. 6 years, 51 mil wouldn't surprise me at all. This guy is a stud. 5 tool player. Girpux and Eriksson are great players. They still do not bring what Perry brings = hitting, fighting, and meanness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted January 27, 2013 Tatar - Datsyuk - Perry Franzen - Zetterberg - Brunner Bertuzzi - Helm - Samuelsson Abdelkader - Andersson - Tootoo Eaves Smith - Girardi Kronwall - Regehr Colaiacovo - White Lashoff I am bored. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted January 27, 2013 Tatar - Datsyuk - Perry Franzen - Zetterberg - Brunner Bertuzzi - Helm - Samuelsson Abdelkader - Andersson - Tootoo Eaves Smith - Girardi Kronwall - Regehr Colaiacovo - White Lashoff I am bored. Wheres emdog? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Motown4013 350 Report post Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) Trade Howard, for Gunnarsson, Mike Brown and a pick Trade Datsyuk, and Franzen for Luongo, and Edler Trade Filpulla and Nyquist for Coburn, and Simmonds, Sign Stalberg, Handzus, and Weiss Brunner-Zetterberg-Simmonds Stalberg-Weiss-Bertuzzi Abby-Handzus-Samuelsson Brown-Helm-Tootoo/Eaves Kronwall-Coburn Edler-Gunnarsson Smith- Ericsson-Lashoff Luongo Monster Buy out Quincey because f*** Illitchs money. And there's a quick 5 minutes wasted You traded away Pavel, Mule, Jimmy, Flip and Gus but kept SAMUELSON? Hmm...I just didnt see that coming. Edited January 27, 2013 by Motown4013 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterPavel 115 Report post Posted January 27, 2013 Trade Howard, for Gunnarsson, Mike Brown and a pick Trade Datsyuk, and Franzen for Luongo, and Edler Trade Filpulla and Nyquist for Coburn, and Simmonds, Sign Stalberg, Handzus, and Weiss Brunner-Zetterberg-Simmonds Stalberg-Weiss-Bertuzzi Abby-Handzus-Samuelsson Brown-Helm-Tootoo/Eaves Kronwall-Coburn Edler-Gunnarsson Smith- Ericsson-Lashoff Luongo Monster Buy out Quincey because f*** Illitchs money. And there's a quick 5 minutes wasted You traded away Pavel, Mule, Jimmy, Flip and Gus but kept SAMUELSON? Hmm...I just didnt see that coming. He forgot to include the Sammy for Malkin straight up lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted January 27, 2013 He forgot to include the Sammy for Malkin straight up lol I like all the talk about Wimnepeg giving us their best young guns for Nyquist and picks. People act like Nyquist is Gretzky and we are just deciding when to unleash him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted January 27, 2013 I like all the talk about Wimnepeg giving us their best young guns for Nyquist and picks. People act like Nyquist is Gretzky and we are just deciding when to unleash him. Nyquist is on pace with 7 points in 19 games to have a Datsyuk type career. So he's pretty much a lock for the hall of fame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted January 27, 2013 Nyquist is on pace with 7 points in 19 games to have a Datsyuk type career. So he's pretty much a lock for the hall of fame. Exactly!! I want to see him as much as the next guy, but right now, he's the Crash Davis of the Red Wings. Smith turned out to be Laloosh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,131 Report post Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) Ok, here is my throw in of what I'd love on a roster next season... Bobby Ryan - Datsyuk - Corey Perry Alex Burrows - Zetterberg - Brunner Bertuzzi - Helm - Tootoo Miller/Eaves - Sheahan - Abdelkader Kronwall - Ericsson Smith - Lashoff Douglas Murray - Dekeyser Adam Pardy Howard Monster (of course Doug Murray is a UFA in San Jose, if somehow Holland could land that titanic human being, I would let Huskins go....but if not Huskins has done a solid job thus far, I would re-sign him to a #6/7 role) edit: My subractions are Franzen/Filppula/Sammy/Cola/Emmerton/Kindl/Cleary/Mursak/White/Quincey via trades/UFA/RFA or buyouts... Edited January 27, 2013 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites