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#261 skyphoenix

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 02:32 PM

But it's Holland's fault Detroit is a traditional hockey market. What an idiot. Why would he do this to us!?!


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Posted 04 July 2013 - 02:36 PM

Its also Holland's fault we have made the playoffs 22 straight seasons. What a loser


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Posted 04 July 2013 - 02:37 PM

 
Clarkson is hot garbage at the amount and term he wants..Horton has already stated he wants to be in a non traditional hockey market ...I'm not sure if you have noticed but Detroit is not non traditional.  


And? So?

Same EXCUSE we are going to use for every UFA Kenny fails to sign?

"X Player" wanted blue to be one of the team's colors.

Hogwash.

Money talks. B.S. walks.

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 03:18 PM

Horton/Clarkson now.

Trade for Vanek later.

 

What's with your obsession for Vanek and furthermore why would Buffalo trade their best player to a division rival?


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Posted 04 July 2013 - 03:20 PM

 
What's with your obsession for Vanek and furthermore why would Buffalo trade their best player to a division rival?


Dude can bury it.

Because he wont be in Buffalo past next year, anyway.

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 03:22 PM

Dude can bury it.

Because he wont be in Buffalo past next year, anyway.

 

So you think they're going to willingly trade him to one of their strongest divisional opponents so they can then play against him as much as possible??


"The leader must never close the gap between himself and the group. If he does, he is no longer what he must be. He must walk a tightrope between the consent he must win and the control he must exert."
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When asked who won, Babcock said, “Well it doesn’t really matter as long as you don’t lose. It’s like going bear hunting, you take a slow guy with you in case the bear is hungry.”

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 03:29 PM

 
So you think they're going to willingly trade him to one of their strongest divisional opponents so they can then play against him as much as possible??


If the price is right, why not?

We picked up Chelios from where?

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 03:34 PM

If the price is right, why not?

We picked up Chelios from where?

 

Chelios was 37 at the time. Chicago didn't fear playing against him.

 

Vanek is 29, in his prime, and by far the best forward/goal scorer on their team.

 

Not a good comparison...


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Posted 04 July 2013 - 03:51 PM

Its also Holland's fault we have made the playoffs 22 straight seasons. What a loser

 

I'm not saying Holland didn't have his time where you can attribute a lot of the team's success to him, but Bowman put the team together that contributed to the brunt of that playoff streak, and you could say his influence as well as the effects of our success under his leadership as a GM and/or coach in those years at the very least helped keep the momentum going. Again, not saying Holland doesn't deserve credit, but certainly not anything close to 22 years worth.


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Posted 04 July 2013 - 03:53 PM

 
Chelios was 37 at the time. Chicago didn't fear playing against him.
 
Vanek is 29, in his prime, and by far the best forward/goal scorer on their team.
 
Not a good comparison...


Out of curiosoty, in which Stanley Cup do you think Chelios helped us more - 2002 or 2008?

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 03:59 PM

I wish nill replaced Holland

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 04:02 PM

we'll get to see a lot of smith vs. smith action in the coming seasons. 


We went over this.

Horton/Clarkson @ 11 million

Vs.

Brunner/Cleary/Sammy/Bertuzzi/Tootoo @ 12 million.

Either way, you have 2 guys in your line-up.

The mpney is not an issue.
 
....or because of the players ridiculous salary demands 


I agree that some of the wings are over paid but I don't care how you compare it, Horton + Clarkson is NOT worth 11 mill.

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#273 The Axe

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 04:05 PM

I agree that some of the wings are over paid but I don't care how you compare it, Horton + Clarkson is NOT worth 11 mill.


I know it doesnt seem like it, but it is


2 guys in their prime that give us what we dont have = size and offense. Its not a buyers' market, unfortunately. That was 10 years ago.

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 04:10 PM

Out of curiosoty, in which Stanley Cup do you think Chelios helped us more - 2002 or 2008?

 

Man you get off topic quick.. nobody said he was a non-factor, just that it was a horrible comparison as stated above.

 

The original point was I don't see Buffalo trading their best player to a top division rival and thus having to face him as much as possible.


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When asked who won, Babcock said, “Well it doesn’t really matter as long as you don’t lose. It’s like going bear hunting, you take a slow guy with you in case the bear is hungry.”

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 04:13 PM

I wish nill replaced Holland


Same here, but let's wait until tomorrow

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 04:20 PM

For all we know, Holland may indeed swing a deal and sign a more than capable FA ... meaning this time tomorrow 85% of the people on this board will be heaping praise upon him ... ho hum ...



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Posted 04 July 2013 - 04:25 PM

For all we know, Holland may indeed swing a deal and sign a more than capable FA ... meaning this time tomorrow 85% of the people on this board will be heaping praise upon him ... ho hum ...


Wow. Calm Down. Don't speak rationally.

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 04:27 PM

And? So?

Same EXCUSE we are going to use for every UFA Kenny fails to sign?

"X Player" wanted blue to be one of the team's colors.

Hogwash.

Money talks. B.S. walks.

 

Yea because the spend the most money theory always works.  Ask Philly how that worked out for them last year or Minny with Parise and Suter..missed the playoffs..missed the playoffs.  Horton is a good player but he is also not just slightly concussion prone but very concussion prone and not exactly adverse to injuries.  


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Posted 04 July 2013 - 04:32 PM

 
Man you get off topic quick.. nobody said he was a non-factor, just that it was a horrible comparison as stated above.
 
The original point was I don't see Buffalo trading their best player to a top division rival and thus having to face him as much as possible.


Chelios was a 3 time Norris Trophy winner in his prime. You act like he was washed up garbage. He payed 10 more seasons!

The NEW point is that you are WRONG on the validoty of my comparison. It kills your argument, so I understand why you woild choose not to acknowledge it. The irony is that it strengthens the other side of your argument to a point where I cant put up a rebuttle. I agree with you that its better to trade outside your conference, if possible.

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 04:41 PM

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