Who is the Most Underappreciated Red Wing?

[Son of a Wing 1,644]

Well who do you think is the most underappreciated Red Wing by the general public/fans?

[GoWings1905 2,694]

Definitely not Quincey. The other two are respectable choices. My vote is for Ericsson, even though the consensus on him has finally become more favorable here.

[Son of a Wing 1,644]

Definitely not Quincey. The other two are respectable choices. My vote is for Ericsson, even though the consensus on him has finally become more favorable here.

I don't think Ericsson is underappreciated at all. In the past sure but not anymore. I've never even seen an argument that Ericsson shouldn't be in the top 2 on this team with our current guys.

[b.shanafan14 733]

Definitely not Quincey. Time on ice is the problem, and he leads the team for goals against when on the ice (of course Smith has a higher GA/game). Abdelkader gets a lot of flack but that has more to do with Babcock insisting on playing him in the Top-6 despite being a great and effective 3rd liner.

[b.shanafan14 733]

Most underappreciated: Dan Cleary, for leaving Stephen Weiss-type money on the table to come back. The former gets bagged at 3pts, +2 for $1.75M when the latter is at 2pts, -3 for $5M.... god they are awful...

[Red Wings Addict 787]

I haven't been able to be on LGW as much as I used to because of my stupid grown up lifestyle so my gauge on this sort of thing isn't nearly as decent as it used to be.

But in terms of who doesn't get the highest degree of appreciation as they should? I kind of feel like Kronwall has to be up there.

Drew Miller has to be up there as well. If he provided what he already does, had 15-20 lbs more muscle, averaged 10-12 fights a year with a 60+ win percentage and didn't have the hair of a 65 year old (assuming a 65 year old has hair) then he'd probably be overrated by LGW.

[Son of a Wing 1,644]

Definitely not Quincey. Time on ice is the problem, and he leads the team for goals against when on the ice (of course Smith has a higher GA/game). Abdelkader gets a lot of flack but that has more to do with Babcock insisting on playing him in the Top-6 despite being a great and effective 3rd liner.

In regards to Quincey (I've never been a fan), he does play pretty tough minutes. Lots of PK with very little PP. Compared to new fan favorite in Kindl, who plays literally no PK time (ok 6sec avg/game) and a ton of PP time. Even Smith averages over a minute of PK per game. It's no wonder Kindl is exposed a lot less often.

[55fan 5,133]

Going with Miller. At most, people outside our little circle know him only as Ryan's brother, if they even know Ryan has a brother.

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

I voted for Abby, he's a versatile guy, can play any position. When Bert goes after this year I'd imagine the spot next to Z and D would be his. As far as Quincey, I was a huge fan of the guy when he left the Wings and during his time in LA/COL, but since he's come back he isn't the same guy. He couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with a slapshot, provides literally nothing offensively (8 points in 70 games) and struggles with turnovers at times. Yes, he plays tough minutes and isn't a half bad PKer, but I don't think he's under appreciated.

[themcityblues 249]

Dan Cleary. Let me know when the public stoning will happen. I really do think he is great at bringing the puck in the zone, is hard on the puck and in the boards, and when he works hard he tends to make plays.

Edited November 5, 2013 by themcityblues

[GMRwings1983 8,803]

Kindl maybe?

Is the thread about which whipping boy is actually not bad? I think those guys are all expendable (guys like Cleary, Sammy, Smith, etc). Or are we talking about solid players who are often forgotten? In that case, I'd pick Kindl.

And Drew Miller may lead the team in shorthanded minutes every year, but our PK isn't that good the last few years. Not like the guy is the second coming of Mike Keane or Guy Carbonneau. We could replace him with any 4th liner who kills penalties.

Edited November 5, 2013 by GMRwings1983

[Son of a Wing 1,644]

Kindl maybe?

Is the thread about which whipping boy is actually not bad? I think those guys are all expendable (guys like Cleary, Sammy, Smith, etc). Or are we talking about solid players who are often forgotten? In that case, I'd pick Kindl.

And Drew Miller may lead the team in shorthanded minutes every year, but our PK isn't that good the last few years. Not like the guy is the second coming of Mike Keane or Guy Carbonneau. We could replace him with any 4th liner who kills penalties.

How dare you say Kindl after tonight's game lol If anything I feel Kindl gets too much credit. He plays very protected minutes with Dekeyser and absolutely no PK. Babcock plays Smith on the PK before Kindl.

I definitely disagree Miller is that expendable. Especially on his salary in a cap world.

It's not necessarily a whipping boy. Just who doesn't get enough credit for what they provide.

[GMRwings1983 8,803]

How dare you say Kindl after tonight's game lol If anything I feel Kindl gets too much credit. He plays very protected minutes with Dekeyser and absolutely no PK. Babcock plays Smith on the PK before Kindl.

I definitely disagree Miller is that expendable. Especially on his salary in a cap world.

It's not necessarily a whipping boy. Just who doesn't get enough credit for what they provide.

I didn't watch tonight's game, but Kindl played well last season, unlike the year before.

Miller is expendable. Every 4th liner is expendable, unless he's a Kris Draper.

[Son of a Wing 1,644]

I didn't watch tonight's game, but Kindl played well last season, unlike the year before.

Miller is expendable. Every 4th liner is expendable, unless he's a Kris Draper.

Tell that to Edmonton because they sure can't seem to find guys for those roles. (Yes they have many issues other than that)

[wings87 1,290]

I gotta say Howard the guy doesn't get enough press and if it wasn't for him we would lose half our games.

[Z Winged Dangler 2,082]

Quincey is a complete joke. He get's more ice time the worse he plays. It's a ******* anomaly!

Miller is meh. He's completely replaceable and he's getting slower. His offensive creativity lasted about 15 games 2 years ago. I'm pretty much done with him.

Abdelkader has the right amount of appreciation. He's given a role, he does his job and we appreciate him for it.

I'd say Jimmy and Tootoo. Jimmy keeps the Wings in games that they don't show up for (like tonight against the Jets) and Tootoo is a leave it all on the ice type and we need more of him and less of Cleary and Miller.

[rick zombo 3,739]

So far this season? I'm going to go with a healthy Bert.

[Nev 1,085]

Of those 3? Abdelkader.

Overall, and around the league? Howard without a doubt.

[cnot19 191]

Hopefully tootoo stays I can do without eaves miller samuelsson clearly Anderson, all useless

[Kira 451]

If I had to choose between the three, I'd say Drew Miller. Between he and Patrick Eaves (up until this last stretch of time), they have been steady on the penalty kill.

[cambellronald7 2]

Cant say there are many you have put just fewer names.

[Frozen-Man 144]

I'd go with Drew Miller. I think he is a great PK man and always seems willing to do whatever it takes to help the team. I think the way he goes about playing is great for the Wings organization.

[Jesusberg 1,256]

Before opening the thread, Miller, Bertuzzi and Abdelkader all popped into my mind. I'm going with Miller, just because the guy doesn't do anything flashy but can serve as a very solid 4th liner.Not the fastest skater, but is willing to block shots and limits his mistakes.

With Bert, I know how streaky he can be so I'm not going to fully praise him just yet... but the guy's playing some solid hockey right now. Doesn't hurt that he's playing with D & Z, but he's showing some skill in his own right.