Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted November 18, 2013 Ya but it would only be for the trade deadline to end of season, then we could re-sign him at 6 per. But who do we move in the here and now? Or are you saying we should grab him in the offseason? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,485 Report post Posted November 18, 2013 But who do we move in the here and now? Or are you saying we should grab him in the offseason? off season would be good if it is at all possible. but if we could somehow dump quincey, sammy, and someone else, we could possibly get him. so basically we have 0 chance of landing gaborik Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted November 18, 2013 We could get him in a many multi-player deal maybe. Convince Columbus to take some dead weight off our hands (Sammy?) plus Quincey, convince them he's a decent, reliable defender, throw in a 2nd round pick or a good prospect. Gaborik's got a few good years left. That solves cap space, dead weight and scoring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted November 18, 2013 (edited) Gaborik honestly might be exactly what this team needs up front. He's a fast skater and a pure sniper. Imagine a first line next year/ end of this year with z-dats-gaborik!!! Then you got Weiss, mule, Tatar, nyquist, helm, and possibly alfy, another top 9 guy, or Abby. Then a solid 4th with Andy, glendening, miller Edited November 18, 2013 by Nyquistfan14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mjtm77 Report post Posted November 19, 2013 Gaborik honestly might be exactly what this team needs up front. He's a fast skater and a pure sniper. Imagine a first line next year/ end of this year with z-dats-gaborik!!! Then you got Weiss, mule, Tatar, nyquist, helm, and possibly alfy, another top 9 guy, or Abby. Then a solid 4th with Andy, glendening, miller I personally Like the zetterberg dats lucic line!!! O wait there is a salary cap Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted November 19, 2013 I personally Like the zetterberg dats lucic line!!! O wait there is a salary cap Well if we didn't have the dead weight that we have making so much money we would be able to afford another star type player Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted November 19, 2013 with Bert, Cleary, Alfie, Quincey and Sammy all most likely not being resigned and the cap going up we should finally be able to play the young guys and make a big splash in the offseason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted November 19, 2013 Not so sure about Bert and Alfie. They've both been playing OK, they may want to come back for another year, I could see Bert retiring though, as his court case starts in September, so he may want to concentrate on that. Thing is, we need to create spots. Almquist, Ferraro and Sheahan are not waiver exempt next season, Jurco is already a PPG player in the AHL at age 20. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted November 19, 2013 Cleary raise. Bertuzzi discount.Quincey discount, Alfie discount, Sammy discount. (If all re even re-signed)Tuzzi aint gonna retire at 38 if his favorite team offers him 1 million to play his favorite sport. Same goes for the rest of em who stay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted November 19, 2013 So much of it - if not pretty much all of it - comes down to this summer's UFA class. I don't mean our UFAs (though obviously that factors into it), I mean other teams' UFAs. I haven't looked into this, but my vague impression is that this is supposed to be a pretty epic class. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted November 19, 2013 So much of it - if not pretty much all of it - comes down to this summer's UFA class. I don't mean our UFAs (though obviously that factors into it), I mean other teams' UFAs. I haven't looked into this, but my vague impression is that this is supposed to be a pretty epic class. Class will be majority forwards, unless some teams mismanage some major D-dmen, which I mostly doubt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted November 19, 2013 Cleary raise. Bertuzzi discount.Quincey discount, Alfie discount, Sammy discount. (If all re even re-signed) Tuzzi aint gonna retire at 38 if his favorite team offers him 1 million to play his favorite sport. Same goes for the rest of em who stay. My thoughts on bertuzzi exactly. Especially because we know he plays well with pav and z. I'm sure babs would love a younger guy for the speed and energy if he could play as well with them as Bert does but it's nice to have him at least as a backup plan. As for the others.. alfie is likely done and if not, I'd love to have him back. Class act. Quincy I see getting resigned unfortunately.. Sammy is done. He'll probably retire and if Cleary keeps up the year he's had so far (and doesn't perform in playoffs) no way we resign him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted November 19, 2013 And Bertuzzi is about to start racking up the hefty legal fees, unfortunately. That reason alone will push him to play as long as he can Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMatt89 63 Report post Posted November 19, 2013 Good players can play with anyone. Zetterberg or Datsyuk still produce when playing together or split up. Can't say that for anyone else on the team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted November 20, 2013 Guys and Gals, We must reconsider everything. What if we trade Jimmy for an awesome return and just go with Mrazek as our starter? Should Blashill take over for Babs? Should we look into trying some kind of mystical rain dance victory ritual dealy? Is there any way we can get Daniel Cleary back in the top-six, preferably on the first line with Pavs and Z? Daniel Cleary voodoo doll(s)? All those octopi that've jumped over the glass and fallen to the ice over the years...could it be that they've been trying to warn us of the suckage to come? Did they know? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BottleOfSmoke 5,965 Report post Posted November 20, 2013 Guys and Gals, We must reconsider everything. What if we trade Jimmy for an awesome return and just go with Mrazek as our starter? Should Blashill take over for Babs? Should we look into trying some kind of mystical rain dance victory ritual dealy? Is there any way we can get Daniel Cleary back in the top-six, preferably on the first line with Pavs and Z? Daniel Cleary voodoo doll(s)? All those octopi that've jumped over the glass and fallen to the ice over the years...could it be that they've been trying to warn us of the suckage to come? Did they know? No, no, yes, yes, yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted November 20, 2013 These are two quotes from practice today: @AnsarKhanMLive: Wings split up Datsyuk and Zetterberg in practice. Datsyuk skating with Bertuzzi and Cleary. Zetterberg is with Franzen as they're short a F @AnsarKhanMLive: Weiss is skating, but oddly enough in a black jersey worn by defensemen. Babcock has lost his fu**ing mind! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BottleOfSmoke 5,965 Report post Posted November 20, 2013 These are two quotes from practice today: @AnsarKhanMLive: Wings split up Datsyuk and Zetterberg in practice. Datsyuk skating with Bertuzzi and Cleary. Zetterberg is with Franzen as they're short a F @AnsarKhanMLive: Weiss is skating, but oddly enough in a black jersey worn by defensemen. Babcock has lost his fu**ing mind! This post makes me want to punch my own face. I can't even ***** about it I'm so exasperated. I love this team, but some of the decisions being made make me suspicious that everyone has secretly been replaced with monkeys humping footballs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted November 20, 2013 Why would you break up the one line carrying the team? At least keep that intact instead of spreading out the garbage over four lines. Cleary and Bertuzzi with Datsyuk? Just throw Samuelsson up there with Z and Franzen to have the oldest and slowest top-six in NHL history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BottleOfSmoke 5,965 Report post Posted November 20, 2013 @HeleneStJames: Spread the news. I asked Ken Holland if possible #RedWings call up Gustav Nyquist. Holland: "Possible." I'll believe it when I see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWang 422 Report post Posted November 20, 2013 These are two quotes from practice today: @AnsarKhanMLive: Wings split up Datsyuk and Zetterberg in practice. Datsyuk skating with Bertuzzi and Cleary. Zetterberg is with Franzen as they're short a F @AnsarKhanMLive: Weiss is skating, but oddly enough in a black jersey worn by defensemen. Babcock has lost his fu**ing mind! Just when i thought it couldnt get worse... Im really starting to hate babs and his nonsense. Bert-Dats-Alfie Franzen-Z-Tatar Nyquist-helm-abby Miller-Weiss-Glendening Each line will have a grinder/playmaker/scorer. Notice cleary/sammy are nowhere near this lineup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted November 20, 2013 Just when i thought it couldnt get worse... Im really starting to hate babs and his nonsense. Bert-Dats-Alfie Franzen-Z-Tatar Nyquist-helm-abby Miller-Weiss-Glendening Each line will have a grinder/playmaker/scorer. Notice cleary/sammy are nowhere near this lineup. We need goals you can't be playing Weiss on the 4th. No way Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted November 20, 2013 Of course Cleary would play with Datsyuk. Of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWang 422 Report post Posted November 20, 2013 We need goals you can't be playing Weiss on the 4th. No way Okay then swap him with helm/abby on the 3rd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted November 20, 2013 These are two quotes from practice today: @AnsarKhanMLive: Wings split up Datsyuk and Zetterberg in practice. Datsyuk skating with Bertuzzi and Cleary. Zetterberg is with Franzen as they're short a F @AnsarKhanMLive: Weiss is skating, but oddly enough in a black jersey worn by defensemen. Babcock has lost his fu**ing mind! OK with splitting up Pav and Hank, it simply has to be done at the minute. Ignoring the fact that Cleary is on the top line Z + Franzen, but short of a forward???????? Man, if only we had a hungry young 22 year old winger who's shown some good chemistry with Franzen the last few games eh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites