LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted January 15, 2017 It's no secret I voted Hossa. But other than him, they all suck...they're ******* Blackhawks for f***s sake! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ami 273 Report post Posted January 16, 2017 wow! what a question! how low we went... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted January 17, 2017 Toews is probably one of the Top 5 players in the league. What he lacks in skill he makes up for in gumption. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted January 17, 2017 47 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Toews is probably one of the Top 5 players in the league. What he lacks in skill he makes up for in gumption. What league would that be? Certainly not the NHL in the year 2017. He's one of the best two-way forwards in the game, but that's not the same as best player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted January 17, 2017 17 minutes ago, GMRwings1983 said: What league would that be? Certainly not the NHL in the year 2017. He's one of the best two-way forwards in the game, but that's not the same as best player. What he lacks in skill he makes up for in gumption. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted January 18, 2017 4 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: What he lacks in skill he makes up for in gumption. Based on that, Dan Cleary was a top 5 player a few years back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted January 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, GMRwings1983 said: Based on that, Dan Cleary was a top 5 player a few years back. What cleary lacked he made up for with respect to the system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted January 18, 2017 Stan Bowman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,763 Report post Posted January 18, 2017 59 minutes ago, Dabura said: Stan Bowman. The poll was just players, not GM/Coach, but if you are going to bring Bowman up, out of curiosity why do you give him the nod over Dale Tallon? Tallon drafted Kane, Towes, Keith, Seabrook, and brought on Quenville as head coach. Plus Tallon was the one who brought on Versteeg, Ladd, Bolland Sharp, Byfuglien, and Campbell. Bowman has done a good job surrounding the core with good complementary pieces since they lost some of the aforementioned players, but the core was all Tallon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted January 18, 2017 1 hour ago, kliq said: The poll was just players, not GM/Coach, but if you are going to bring Bowman up, out of curiosity why do you give him the nod over Dale Tallon? Tallon drafted Kane, Towes, Keith, Seabrook, and brought on Quenville as head coach. Plus Tallon was the one who brought on Versteeg, Ladd, Bolland Sharp, Byfuglien, and Campbell. Bowman has done a good job surrounding the core with good complementary pieces since they lost some of the aforementioned players, but the core was all Tallon. Stan Bowman is the Ken Holland of the Blackhawks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted January 18, 2017 Tongue-in-cheek. I don't really believe it's Stan Bowman. Like you said, kliq, Tallon set the groundwork. I've just found that pretty much everyone I talk to (in real life) about Chicago and their success seems to hold Bowman up on this great big pedestal, which I find surprising and amusing. For me, it's Kane or Keith. Probably the latter. 1 kliq reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,763 Report post Posted January 18, 2017 8 minutes ago, Dabura said: Tongue-in-cheek. I don't really believe it's Stan Bowman. Like you said, kliq, Tallon set the groundwork. I've just found that pretty much everyone I talk to (in real life) about Chicago and their success seems to hold Bowman up on this great big pedestal, which I find surprising and amusing. For me, it's Kane or Keith. Probably the latter. My bad lol.....I agree with you. If his last name wasn't Bowman he wouldn't get nearly as much credit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted January 18, 2017 7 hours ago, kliq said: My bad lol.....I agree with you. If his last name wasn't Bowman he wouldn't get nearly as much credit. Nah, not your bad. It wasn't at all clear that I was kidding. It's my bad. I mean, to be clear, I don't think Stan Bowman doesn't deserve any credit. In fact, I think he deserves a ton of credit. Yes, he inherited a powerhouse, but he's guided his team to multiple championships in the span of about half a decade, in the cap era. Keeping the Blackhawks this good for this long in The Age of Parity (which, by design, punishes teams that are loaded with high-end talent) is an impressive feat. Bowman's had to make a number of shrewd -- sometimes difficult/ruthless -- decisions just to keep his team in annual contention, and some of those moves have worked out incredibly well for the organization. But, yeah, none of that really matters if they don't have Kane/Keith. 2 Jacksoni and kliq reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
