town123 231 Report post Posted July 8, 2024 Should we have been in on this? I think the Oil get the better of this deal. McFast with size but timid vs Savoie, Marner like skill maybe but often injured. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott R Lucidi 675 Report post Posted July 8, 2024 6 minutes ago, town123 said: Should we have been in on this? I think the Oil get the better of this deal. McFast with size but timid vs Savoie, Marner like skill maybe but often injured. We need to put the screws to EDM. Bettman must pay for giving the OIL all the McPicks all the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings3:16 322 Report post Posted July 8, 2024 This was an odd trade. Something weird must have happened with Savoie. The other guys just seem like 3rd line plugs and he's yet to even play / is a top 10 pick? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmybigrigs69 366 Report post Posted July 8, 2024 19 minutes ago, Wings3:16 said: This was an odd trade. Something weird must have happened with Savoie. The other guys just seem like 3rd line plugs and he's yet to even play / is a top 10 pick? Don't read too much into it. Buffalo doesn't give their managers a mandate beyond 3 years, so they all make a buncha panic moves at the end of their contracts in order to "win now", but they don't win, and it just screws over the next manager down the line... who only has a 3 year mandate. Rinse repeat. Terrible trade. I guarantee McLeod and Tullio are not on the Sabres roster in 3 years. I was worried Ottawa and Buffalo would pass us by soon in their rebuilds. But this kinda thing reminds me just how regarded those franchises are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott R Lucidi 675 Report post Posted July 8, 2024 17 minutes ago, Jimmybigrigs69 said: Don't read too much into it. Buffalo doesn't give their managers a mandate beyond 3 years, so they all make a buncha panic moves at the end of their contracts in order to "win now", but they don't win, and it just screws over the next manager down the line... who only has a 3 year mandate. Rinse repeat. Terrible trade. I guarantee McLeod and Tullio are not on the Sabres roster in 3 years. I was worried Ottawa and Buffalo would pass us by soon in their rebuilds. But this kinda thing reminds me just how regarded those franchises are. good call here. Buffalo and Ottawa are the epitome of stupid. The SCAM is not a good roster manager, but he's a good evaluator of young talent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axl Foley 334 Report post Posted July 9, 2024 Savoie was just not that good. Middle 6 ceiling. Stock dropped since drafted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmybigrigs69 366 Report post Posted July 9, 2024 2 hours ago, Axl Foley said: Savoie was just not that good. Middle 6 ceiling. Stock dropped since drafted. Why? If anything his stock has increased post draft IIMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stephen-gregory-yzerman 133 Report post Posted July 9, 2024 10 hours ago, Axl Foley said: Savoie was just not that good. Middle 6 ceiling. Stock dropped since drafted. 7 hours ago, Jimmybigrigs69 said: Why? If anything his stock has increased post draft IIMO. Must be confusing with brother Carter also with the Oilers. Both small wingers Matt has top 6 ceiling Carter likely doesnt ever make it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 231 Report post Posted July 9, 2024 I'm not sure who Buffalo would have accepted in return from the Wings, or even if we wanted another small forward. If Savoie turned into a DCat then that would be worth it. Buffalo is really dumb and Savoie saves the Oil money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stephen-gregory-yzerman 133 Report post Posted July 9, 2024 25 minutes ago, town123 said: I'm not sure who Buffalo would have accepted in return from the Wings, or even if we wanted another small forward. If Savoie turned into a DCat then that would be worth it. Buffalo is really dumb and Savoie saves the Oil money. Dont think Buffalo woulda traded within division otherwise Veleno probably woulda gotten it done. Big upgrade but I agree that we dont really need any more small skilled wingers. I dont mind missing out on Savoie I just hope we dont miss out on McGroarty when hes traded out of Winnipeg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmybigrigs69 366 Report post Posted July 9, 2024 Sabres fan boys alreading declaring McLeod is the #1 shutdown center in the league and faster than McDavid. God bless that fanbase 2 Akakabuto and Al The Octopus reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,842 Report post Posted July 9, 2024 Franchise bias. Edmonton is hot right now, making moves everybody likes, so Savoie must be real good. Similar to the Panthers now signing Boquist. He’s gonna be the next Forsling now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott R Lucidi 675 Report post Posted July 9, 2024 30 minutes ago, Akakabuto said: Franchise bias. Edmonton is hot right now, making moves everybody likes, so Savoie must be real good. Similar to the Panthers now signing Boquist. He’s gonna be the next Forsling now. Great signing. 23 years old. Always good to take a chance on an immature defensemen that has mad skills but hasn't grown up yet. 2 town123 and Akakabuto reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,842 Report post Posted July 9, 2024 1 hour ago, Scott R Lucidi said: Great signing. 23 years old. Always good to take a chance on an immature defensemen that has mad skills but hasn't grown up yet. I think both players are gonna be good. Just think that the general perception of them is based on who aquired them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott R Lucidi 675 Report post Posted July 9, 2024 28 minutes ago, Akakabuto said: I think both players are gonna be good. Just think that the general perception of them is based on who aquired them. I'm talking about Boqvist. Which player are you talking about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,842 Report post Posted July 9, 2024 58 minutes ago, Scott R Lucidi said: I'm talking about Boqvist. Which player are you talking about? Both Boquist and Savoie. 1 Scott R Lucidi reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott R Lucidi 675 Report post Posted July 9, 2024 1 minute ago, Akakabuto said: Both Boquist and Savoie. Yah, i agree. Both just need time. Both have lots of skill. Up to them to put in the work or go FTJ (Full Tomas Jurco). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,754 Report post Posted July 9, 2024 Buffalo had about 2,000 small, finesse, wingers. Edmonton still believes that the reason they aren't winning the Cup is because they don't score enough. It's a match made in heaven. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott R Lucidi 675 Report post Posted July 10, 2024 3 hours ago, kipwinger said: Buffalo had about 2,000 small, finesse, wingers. Edmonton still believes that the reason they aren't winning the Cup is because they don't score enough. It's a match made in heaven. Salary cap is 2 Billion this year, so they should have been ok... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites