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#2005806 What is it why you're a fan of this team?

Posted by SDavis35 on 27 June 2010 - 08:29 PM

The organization is based on class and the character of not only the players, but the rest of the staff. They show respect to everyone, they treat each other and their players as family. They also never panic, no matter how dire the circumstance I always see the confidence in their eyes. That's the identity I fell in love with, so yea, if the character/identity of the Red Wings was changed to represent what's wrong with the NHL, I wouldn't care for them anymore, regardless of what superstar player they drafted.


#2005716 Are We Not Good Enough to Win the Cup?

Posted by Broken 16 on 27 June 2010 - 06:29 PM

How can we be good enough when we have the same team that got Ousted in the 2nd round?



Williams and Lebda are gone. That's good enough for me.


#2005043 1st Round Pick (21), Riley Sheahan

Posted by HeilThom on 26 June 2010 - 12:02 AM

Know who else did good in junior? Kirk Maltby. 50 GOAL HANDS!


#2004986 Savard to waive no trade clause

Posted by clutchngrab on 25 June 2010 - 09:46 PM

I don't get the Clears hate yet again. Savard as it has been said is 33, and will not bring the exact same things to the ice that a player such as Danny does. I don't know man, the trade Cleary thing is just at a pinnacle and this is the year I feel we need to see what he can do. So nah on that.


Please remind what Cleary brought to the Wings last year? Savard is infinitely better, but it doesn't matter because Cleary + pick won't bring Savard anyway.


#2004929 2010 NHL Draft Thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 25 June 2010 - 09:06 PM

I don't get what Kenny is doing with his defense. Sure, Kronwall hits, Stuart does a little, but 5 out of 6 d-men are softies, with captain nick leading the way. Tinordi is right there, this guy is gonna be a monster in 4 years, Sheahan is gonna have trouble cracking the lineup because of the of jam at center for the next decade. Oh well, we will see if Tinordi becomes a star and if Sheahan even makes the club in 4 to 5 years. Then there is another fubar draft I can hate Holland for...


#2004288 Savard to waive no trade clause

Posted by LeftWinger on 24 June 2010 - 09:33 PM

Again you're clearly confused about how brain damage works.

Concussion 1: Damn man. Get well soon.
Concussion 2: This is worrying. Try to avoid contact with your head.
Concussion 3: s***, that wasn't that hard of a hit... how'd you get concussed?
Concussion 4: f***! Another concussion? Do you remember math anymore?
Concussion 5: WTF? How did you get a concussion opening a jar of peanut butter?!?

Every concussion comes easier than the last.
Go read up about Eric Lindros.

A guy who has 4 concussions in his history is an injury waiting to happen.

Franzen and Zetterberg don't have injuries that cause them to be more prone to getting injured. They've healed and are fine now.

Savard's brain is damaged. It will never be the same again no matter how long he waits and rests. Brain injuries are extremely serious and not even remotely comparable to a knee injury or injured shoulder.

But hey-- if I don't agree with you about trading a young, upward trending player for a 32 year old with a frighting medical history I must be a slappy. :rolleyes:

I hear ya man! I hear ya! But my hatred for Hudler runs too deep, I'd trade him for Ernie Harwell just to get him off my team...


#2004285 Savard to waive no trade clause

Posted by LeftWinger on 24 June 2010 - 09:25 PM

Ericsson won't be what everyone think he will be and 32 year old is not that bad, you can get a good 5 years out of him.

Yes, but, we've got Hudler! Plus, Savard has had a concussion, he is mashed potatoes inside, don't worry though, Zetterberg and Franzen will NEVER re-injure their back and shoulder again, ever! They are Red Wings! They are worth $6M and $4M, but Savard is not, because it may cost us, GOD FORBID, HUDLER! Oh God, what a world, what a world! If Hudler is traded the Earth will surely open up and swallow Hockeytown!


#2004283 Savard to waive no trade clause

Posted by Drake_Marcus on 24 June 2010 - 09:23 PM

Nah, we'll just bring back Jiri clucking Hudler, he'll bring us back to Stanley! How many back injuries has Zetterberg had? How many injuries has Franzen and Kronwall had? It's ok to throw all of our cash at them, but its not cool to trade for 80-100 point producer with LESS injured seasons than Hank and Mule, becuase Hudler can get 50 points? I may have very limited medical knowledge, but lets give $6M to a man with a bad back, yes Zetterberg, that makes lots of sense. Holland rolled the dice on Zetterberg staying healthy (which failed last season) so why not roll the dice on a 100 point player?


Again you're clearly confused about how brain damage works.

Concussion 1: Damn man. Get well soon.
Concussion 2: This is worrying. Try to avoid contact with your head.
Concussion 3: s***, that wasn't that hard of a hit... how'd you get concussed?
Concussion 4: f***! Another concussion? Do you remember math anymore?
Concussion 5: WTF? How did you get a concussion opening a jar of peanut butter?!?

Every concussion comes easier than the last.
Go read up about Eric Lindros.

A guy who has 4 concussions in his history is an injury waiting to happen.

Franzen and Zetterberg don't have injuries that cause them to be more prone to getting injured. They've healed and are fine now.

Savard's brain is damaged. It will never be the same again no matter how long he waits and rests. Brain injuries are extremely serious and not even remotely comparable to a knee injury or injured shoulder.

But hey-- if I don't agree with you about trading a young, upward trending player for a 32 year old with a frighting medical history I must be a slappy. :rolleyes:


#2004273 Savard to waive no trade clause

Posted by LeftWinger on 24 June 2010 - 09:01 PM

That's a retarded assumption.



32 years old. Has suffered FOUR concussions.

Hey Einstein, why don't we just sign Eric Lindros. :rolleyes:



Wow... you obviously have very limited medical knowledge. Google "cumulative effects of concussions".

Nah, we'll just bring back Jiri clucking Hudler, he'll bring us back to Stanley! How many back injuries has Zetterberg had? How many injuries has Franzen and Kronwall had? It's ok to throw all of our cash at them, but its not cool to trade for 80-100 point producer with LESS injured seasons than Hank and Mule, becuase Hudler can get 50 points? I may have very limited medical knowledge, but lets give $6M to a man with a bad back, yes Zetterberg, that makes lots of sense. Holland rolled the dice on Zetterberg staying healthy (which failed last season) so why not roll the dice on a 100 point player?


Here's the Slappies Lines

Hudler - Hudler - Hudler
Hudler - Hudler - Hudler
Hudler - Hudler - Hudler
Hudler - Hudler - Hudler
Hudler


#2004263 Savard to waive no trade clause

Posted by LeftWinger on 24 June 2010 - 08:40 PM

For a 32 year old guy with concussion problems? :lol: Savard is trending downwards and Hudler trends upwards. If the Bruins feel Savard was still such a key asset they wouldn't have him on the block when they clearly need scoring.

Also note that Hudler is 6 years younger than Savard and hasn't hit his prime (or struggled with concussions).

Funny,you laugh at a 32 year old who had a concussion for $4M, yet $3.9M for a 30 year old with a HISTORY of injuries is fine. Johan Franzen's cap hit is almost the same, he is only 2 years younger, but has had a plethora of injuries, yet its ok for him to be here? He;s never even come close to 100 points, he has never been healthy enough to! Everyone here holds the Mule on a high horse, yet bring Savard in here would be dumb? Too, Too Funny!


Johan Franzen Stats:

Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM GP G A Pts PIM
2005-06 Detroit Red Wings NHL 80 12 4 16 36 6 1 2 3 4
2006-07 Detroit Red Wings NHL 69 10 20 30 37 18 3 4 7 10
2007-08 Detroit Red Wings NHL 72 27 11 38 51 16 13 5 18 14
2008-09 Detroit Red Wings NHL 71 34 25 59 44 23 12 11 23 12
2009-10 Detroit Red Wings NHL 27 10 11 21 22 12 6 12 18 16

Marc Savard:

2005-06 Atlanta NHL 82 28 69 97 100 -- -- -- -- --
2006-07 Boston Bruins NHL 82 22 74 96 96 -- -- -- -- --
2007-08 Boston Bruins NHL 74 15 63 78 66 7 1 5 6 6
2008-09 Boston Bruins NHL 82 25 63 88 70 11 6 7 13 4
2009-10 Boston Bruins NHL 41 10 23 33 14 7 1 2 3 12

...using the Johan Franzen logic, losing Hudler for Savard is a No-Brainer.

EDIT: Oh Boo Hoo, negged because Hudler sucks, cry me a river!


#2004254 Savard to waive no trade clause

Posted by LeftWinger on 24 June 2010 - 08:24 PM

Hudler will never get 88 points... Savard WILL playing for the Wings, I don't get all the love for a guy who told you fans to bark off and ran to the KHL. Hudler is NOT a top 6 forward in the NHL, Savard is. There is no comparison. Hudler is afraid of contact, corners and the front of the net, he avoids any kind of physical aspect of the game. He will not help us into the finals, Savard can. But NOOOOOO! Lets just keep the same team and add a clucking loser who cannot even make his own national team and who turned his back on ALL the Wings fans that supported him. Stanley Cup Finals, not with this roster....

Yo slappies just keep thinking Hudler is the answer. You guys are TOO funny!


AUTO-GENERATED CAPGEEK.COM LINES
FORWARDS
Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / * Marc Savard ($4.008m)
Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m)
Todd Bertuzzi ($1.938m) / Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m) / Kris Draper ($1.583m)
* Justin Abdelkader ($0.975m) / * Darren Helm ($0.750m) / * Drew Miller ($0.600m)
Mattias Ritola ($0.517m)
DEFENSEMEN
Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.200m) / Brian Rafalski ($6.000m)
Brad Stuart ($3.750m) / Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m)
Jonathan Ericsson ($0.900m) / Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)
GOALTENDERS
Chris Osgood ($1.417m) / Jimmy Howard ($0.717m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
ROSTER: 21; CAP: $59.4m; PAYROLL: $57.650m; CAP ROOM: $1.750m BONUSES: $0.000m


$1.750M to sign a 6th defensman.... This lineup is Golden!


#2004240 Savard to waive no trade clause

Posted by LeftWinger on 24 June 2010 - 07:44 PM

You guys wouldn't trade Hudler? Gimme a break! Hudler/Emmerton & 2nd rounder... Done deal. Savard will outscore Hudler on this team, Emmerton is never going to get his chance here and The Wings draft pretty well, so losing the 2nd wouldnt hurt us too much. If Detroit trades up in the first and gets McIlrath or Tinordi, then also adds Savard, this future looks bright. Sure Hudler will probably score 25-30 goals and get his 50 points, but Savard?!?!? Really? This shouldn't even be a question, do it Holland! DO IT NOW! Hudler showed no loyalty, he bolted for the KHL befdore his arbitration was even complete, I dont get why you guys are even welcoming him back! You guys were all pissed when Fedorov left and you f'ing boo him, you said he turned his back and left, bump Hudler! He's a buster! Let him get his first line minutes in Boston and give us a guy who could EASILY get 100 points in the Winged Wheel!


Franzen Savard Bertuzzi -- Thats scary!

That would also fill everyones want for a top 6 forward! Then we can forget all this talk about the 4th line grinder. Re-sign Helm, Abby, one of Miller or Eaves and give Ritola the 13th spot. Get your 6th defensman for the $1M or so and bring on the Cup!


Savard > Hudler in any way, shape or form, on any given sunday-saturday and 24 hours a day!

:lol: at the Hudler slappies!


#2004107 Savard to waive no trade clause

Posted by KrazyGangsta on 24 June 2010 - 03:15 PM

Trade Filppula + Ericcson for Savard.


#2004031 Savard to waive no trade clause

Posted by AtomicPunk on 24 June 2010 - 12:59 PM

If I could get the numbers to work, I would do this in a heartbeat.

Savard is one of the most underappreciated players in the league. ALWAYS a 80+ point guy. And I am getting tired of waiting to see the potential we have been waiting to see out of some players, I will always take a guy who is peaking over someone who may / may not turn into something.


#2001850 Nice little article on our 2010/11 lines...

Posted by Drake_Marcus on 20 June 2010 - 08:49 PM

I'd like to see Franzen play with Datsyuk rather than Zetterberg. Datsyuk is undoubtedly our best playmaker, whereas Franzen is definitely our best pure goal scorer. The two together should be able to make some noise.


I prefer Datsyuk with Franzen and Hudler with Zetterberg. Both Z and Huds are hybrid passer/scorer type guys while Dats and Franzen are pure playmaker/scorer types of guys.

Throw Bertuzzi with Hudler and Z to be their net-front guy and put Holmstrom with Dats since those two seem to be inseparable.

If you're dead set on Filppula playing on the top six switch him with Hudler, I guess, but I'd much rather have Zetterberg with Hudler to minimize any defensive issues. Filppula would immediately make the 3rd line defensively responsible since he's such a good defensive centre.

"Shakes Head"

I dont know how many times this has been brought up, and every time someone tries to make the argument that Hudler is better than Filppula, their argument gets blown to shreds.

07-08 Even strength points
Filppula, 11 goals 25 assists 36 points, 80 games

Hudler, 17 goals, 12 assists, 29 points, 82 games

Flips stats for 09-10, 35 points, 55 games = 52 point pace

Also, Flip is much, much better defensively.


Im glad to have Hudler back but it isnt even close guys. Theres a reason Flip is paid more than Hudler, and it will come more clear for everyone next season.


Filppula played way more even strength mins. What are their even strength points per min values?

Also, proving that Filppula was on pace for 52pts last season doesn't really help your case against the guy who last scored 57pts.