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#2015331 Dan Cleary working way back from surgery

Posted by Bring Back The Bruise Bros on 15 July 2010 - 02:28 PM

Forget the roster,Cleary is one of the must underrated players in the league.the guy plays his brains out every single game and once he's injured,its time to trade him.Give me a break.This guy's a warrior.Give him a chance to get back to 100% before you bash his game.

#2015314 Dan Cleary working way back from surgery

Posted by Guest on 15 July 2010 - 01:55 PM

A) He's versatile; his point production isn't even close to everything he brings to the table.
B) His injury in '07 was the result of a questionable hit, and his injury in '08 came from being hit in the face with a puck (gee, he should have been able to avoid that one---right, champ?)

I don't think you know much about the NHL, the Wings or Cleary's history with the team.

Obviously YOU know more, or at least THINK you know more. His HISTORY is, he is prone to injury as I said, if you can prove me wrong then, by all means, do so...... My opinion is that he is not worth 3 million per year. You have your opinion and I have mine and we are both entitled to them. Doesn't make you or me more knowledgeable than the other...... So I lift my middle finger to you and your audacity.

#2015261 Dan Cleary working way back from surgery

Posted by Guest on 15 July 2010 - 11:51 AM

LOL all I hear is how he is working hard rehabbing his knee and everyone keeps attributing his low point production to being injured. HELLO he has not played a full 82 games since the Wings signed him. His best point year was 42 points in 63 games in '08 season, last year was 34 points in 64 games. The guy cannot stay healthy and is not worth 3Million dollars..........

#2015082 Lilja, Modano, and Maltby news

Posted by HockeyTownHouligan on 14 July 2010 - 09:38 PM


I really hope they sign all of these guys even Maltby because the guy is still a warrior, he's got heart and he's still a force along the boards. what do you guys think about the article. oh and 1.25 for modano is about right for one year and for the talent the guy still has.

#2015263 Red Wings re-sign Derek Meech

Posted by wingsfaninMA on 15 July 2010 - 11:54 AM

Get a load of this guy. Stevkrause is obviously right here, read what he said guy. It is basically an Entry level contract because he is entering the NHL on this contract and its make or break for him is what he is saying.

Stev is one of the more knowledgeable posters on here and youre clearly on here being a clown but I can't figure out why?

He played in the NHL two years ago on his elc.

stev also thought huet was canadian. smart guy.

#2015244 Red Wings re-sign Derek Meech

Posted by CAredwingsfan91 on 15 July 2010 - 11:13 AM

what a waste.

#2015227 Red Wings re-sign Derek Meech

Posted by wingsfaninMA on 15 July 2010 - 10:39 AM

Go re-read the original post - I said more or less, because even though he already had his entry level deal, this is the same type of deal IN THE SENSE that it's a "show us enough to keep you deal"...

Also, although it isn't REQUIRED, if you followed the way the Wings brass runs things, they generally don't sign players to their entry level deals, until they're ready to put them in GR...

Keep trying though...

So its an elc based on ur own personal rare opinion on what an elc is. Ok keep trying.

Its not an elc. End of story. It's not even close to an elc. there no such thing as being close to an elc. an elc had restrictions, incentives, term limits, etc. Ritola has nothing of that sort applied to him.

#2014220 Osgood may retire following this season

Posted by SouthernWingsFan on 12 July 2010 - 08:06 PM

As for the whole Osgood/Babcock and getting treated unfairly or whatever, it wouldn't surprise me, but nobody knows what's going on behind closed doors so life could be peachy neat between the two of them for all we know.

As for this past season, sure I would've like to have seen Osgood play more, but given the situation - Howard doing very little to justify getting benched on a consistent basis after Osgood went down with the flu or injury or whatever in December and the Wings having the unusual part of fighting tooth and nail for a playoff spot, Howard was going to be the guy unless he absolutely s**t the bed. Sure he did it here and there and for a game or two in the playoffs, but you can pretty much put any goalie on a list who does that from time to time, even the great ones like Hasek or Roy etc.

It wouldn't been great to see Osgood play a bit more, but the handling of goalies and what not was not the end of all end things that cost the Red Wings this season or the playoffs, it didn't really play much of a factor as some might want to believe.

I'd love to see Osgood play for a few more seasons.

#2014152 Osgood may retire following this season

Posted by Vladifan on 12 July 2010 - 05:23 PM

Osgood will be turning 38 this November and his contract is up after this season, so it is no surprise that people are already speculating that he will retire. I don't remember reading anywhere about Ozzie himself mentioning retirement, but he really doesn't have anything else to prove, other than perhaps wanting to win another cup before he retires. I hope he earns more playing time this season, he has a realistic shot at passing Grant Fuhr and Glenn Hall on the all-time wins list, and if he splits the starts pretty evenly with Howard, he may even catch Tony Esposito, pretty much guaranteeing himself a place in the HHOF.

Only thing I'd change in this statement is I hope he's given more playing time this season. Can't earn anything till he gets a chance to prove himself. Again.

#2014146 Osgood may retire following this season

Posted by mackel on 12 July 2010 - 04:54 PM

Osgood is a Legend.

This is a joke right? Because I laughed out loud when I read it.

#2014139 Osgood may retire following this season

Posted by eva unit zero on 12 July 2010 - 04:05 PM

What's also forgotten in discussions about Osgood?

Only 8 goalies have played more playoff games, and only 7 have won more. Of the seven goalies who have won more, there are 25 Cup rings, 24 earned as starter of the last 30 Cups, and 5 Conn Smythe trophies of the 9 awarded to goalies in that time frame.

No other goaltender during that time frame has come even close to those kinds of numbers. If Osgood plays a couple more seasons and gets playoff time, he passes Vernon (77), Dryden (80), perhaps even Belfour (88), Smith (88), and Fuhr (92) in playoff wins.

The active top-10 list?

Osgood (74)
Nabokov (40)
Khabibulin (39)
Fleury (38)
Giguere (33)
Kiprusoff (25)
Ward (23)
Miller (22)
Lalime (21)
Turco (21)

Fleury, Ward, and Miller are the only ones with a realistic chance of matching Osgood by the same age.

Osgood has 74 wins at 37.
Fleury, 25, would have to average 3 wins per postseason.
Ward, 26, would have to average 4.5 wins per postseason.
Miller, 29, would have to average 6.5 wins per postseason.
Khabibulin, 37, would have to win 35 games this postseason...
Those three and Khabibulin are the only starters on the list, and Khabi is as old as Ozzie and playing for a non-playoff team. And it's likely that none of them will do it. Fleury has the best chance; he might do it or come close. The other two have to average a second round appearance over the remaining time.

#2014680 Red Wings Making Play for Modano

Posted by esteef on 13 July 2010 - 08:42 PM

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#2014413 Red Wings Making Play for Modano

Posted by Aussie_Wing on 13 July 2010 - 09:05 AM


Mike Modano likely seeks better deal

Detroit --It's about the money. It's always about the money.

If the money were right, Mike Modano would've already signed a one-year deal with the Red Wings. The money, obviously, isn't right, but the money isn't going to change, either.

"We made an offer, we made our pitch," Wings general manager Ken Holland said Monday. "But this being a cap world, we've made lots of commitments. We don't have a lot of wiggle room."

Therefore, he has about $3 million left. Restricted free agents Derek Meech (who could be signed this week), Justin Abdelkader and Darren Helm are going to get a piece of that $3 million.

Looking more and more like Mike won't be a Wing. :thumbup:

#2014431 Red Wings Making Play for Modano

Posted by Aussie_Wing on 13 July 2010 - 09:42 AM

That's pure speculation. We have no idea what Modano is thinking.

If we trade/waive Miller, Helm/Abds resign at $950k/$850k, sign Modano at $1 million and someone on defense for $1 million, we'll have about $550k in space.

But doesn't it make you wish Lidstrom, Holmstrom and Bertuzzi would have taken just a little bit less?

Lidstrom yes, I said all along I wanted him at $5 mil. Holmstrom's deal was spot on, Bert's a TAD too much, but overall not bad.

#2014060 Osgood may retire following this season

Posted by Ram on 12 July 2010 - 01:25 PM

Ozzie will always have a special spot here in Detroit after his years of ups and downs. It is too bad the repeat did not happen in '09, I think he would've gone after that. Also still think he could've been Conn Smythe in '08 (not taking anything away from Z, just saying). I am glad that he can call Detroit his home after years of question and struggle.