What's also forgotten in discussions about Osgood?
Only 8 goalies have played more playoff games, and only 7 have won more. Of the seven goalies who have won more, there are 25 Cup rings, 24 earned as starter of the last 30 Cups, and 5 Conn Smythe trophies of the 9 awarded to goalies in that time frame.
No other goaltender during that time frame has come even close to those kinds of numbers. If Osgood plays a couple more seasons and gets playoff time, he passes Vernon (77), Dryden (80), perhaps even Belfour (88), Smith (88), and Fuhr (92) in playoff wins.
Fleury, Ward, and Miller are the only ones with a realistic chance of matching Osgood by the same age.
Osgood has 74 wins at 37. Fleury, 25, would have to average 3 wins per postseason. Ward, 26, would have to average 4.5 wins per postseason. Miller, 29, would have to average 6.5 wins per postseason. Khabibulin, 37, would have to win 35 games this postseason... Those three and Khabibulin are the only starters on the list, and Khabi is as old as Ozzie and playing for a non-playoff team. And it's likely that none of them will do it. Fleury has the best chance; he might do it or come close. The other two have to average a second round appearance over the remaining time.
Ozzie will always have a special spot here in Detroit after his years of ups and downs. It is too bad the repeat did not happen in '09, I think he would've gone after that. Also still think he could've been Conn Smythe in '08 (not taking anything away from Z, just saying). I am glad that he can call Detroit his home after years of question and struggle.
No. He needs more Cups. At least 1 or 2...and it makes it worse because if we had won it in 09 I think he would have gotten the Conn Smythe. He still hasn't gotten the recognition he deserves IMO, and he can't retire until he does.
It's good to hear we've got someone just about ready to come up, hopefully he'll work hard and make it.
As for Ozzie, it doesn't surprise me he plans on retiring. I just hope that Babcock treats him better this season and actually lets him play in some more games. I think he wants to stick around here after he retires so maybe he'll help mentor the young guys.
This is really important. Gats didn't play in game 4 due to flue... Remeber result? 6:3. Then he is back and we look bad. Who is the major reason for that? His line of Perry and Selanne (sometimes Ebbet or Ryan) or Getzlaf himself? Getzlaf was playing againgt the Red Wings and he lost.
If you have a line with your two best pure scorers and your best playmaker and you then remove the playmaker, the snipers will really have a lot more difficulty in scoring. It's basic logic.
PS Don't get me wrong I love to death our centers, Zetter and Dats... There are no players in this league I would trade any of them (yeas, Crosby included).... except for R. Getzlaf.
Great. You're very much entitled to your own opinion. Also important is the awareness and acceptance of the fact that others may not agree with it.
PPS A guy who CAN TAKE OVER THE GAME? And there is only one in this league now.