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#2000372 Bertuzzi Signs 2 Year Deal

Posted by dobbles on 16 June 2010 - 07:10 PM

way too much for bertuzzi. the only reason he was a positive last year was because of his lower cap hit. he gets roughly a 30% raise even though he said he would only play for detroit or retire. also he said in the past that he would play for less money. so much for all of that.


#1999096 Toews: Most undeserving Conn Smyth winner in history?

Posted by dobbles on 13 June 2010 - 06:54 PM

It's truly sad that so many people who claim to be big hockey fans are using points and +/- to evaluate a player's performance.

If you think Jonathan Toews wasn't good in the Finals, you either didn'nt watch the game, don't understand the game, or are biased and bitter.

Toews is the type of player that doesn't need to score points to be the most dominant player on the ice.

Toews won more faceoffs than he lost in every Final game.

Toews won 60.2% of his faceoffs in the playoffs, tops among forwards who had at least 225 faceoffs.

Toews took 460 faceoffs, tops in the league. He took 33.7% of the Blackhawks' faceoffs.

Toews was 7th in the playoffs in shorthanded time on ice.

Toews led all forwards in the playoffs with 32 takeaways. He had just 9 giveaways, for a +23 differential that tied with Dave Bolland for best in the playoffs.

He had just 4 penalty minutes in 22 playoff games.


But yeah, let's give it to Byfuglien, who was minus 4 in the postseason. Or Keith, who turns the puck over in his own zone 3 times a period.



All I could do was shake my head and laugh when I saw a poster in this thread earlier call Hossa a "fraud" who "is just along for the ride.

Hossa is exactly the same as Toews, in that these guys don't need to get the points to be dominant on the ice. Throughout the postseason, Hossa was the second best forward on the Blackhawks.... and I don't think it was really close at all.

Hossa only played 57 games in the regular season, yet ended the season with the highest plus/minus of any player on the Hawks (+24).

No, he didn't score the goals in the playoffs, but this guy generated something every single time he touched the puck in the offensive zone, and was all over the ice at all times.

It's just sad that people still don't understand that point totals don't tell the story when it comes to players like Toews and Hossa. If anything, look at his plus/minus, which was +7 in the postseason.


seeing these 2 posts back to back made me laugh... i could really care less arguing about hossa, but the irony was too much for me to pass up...


#1993823 What are the Pros and Cons of next season?

Posted by dobbles on 03 June 2010 - 03:02 PM

I don't know what your missing besides a lack of hockey snobbery. This why I hate the people on these boards. Nice job trying to sound important on the internet. I hope your staying nice and cool in moms basement.


was this in response to my post? wtf? i just responded that i didn't think we would see many young players. and all of a sudden i am living in my moms basement? wtf?

i started off saying i didn't think the thread would go well. i didn't say that because i thought your OP was bad; i said that because i assumed the arguing would get really ugly about the team. it actually has been pretty good though.


#1989522 Red Wings patiently waiting for Lidstrom's decision

Posted by dobbles on 25 May 2010 - 12:49 PM

I think some people still think of him as a superstar power forward like he was in his Vancouver days and not a 36-37 year old with a bad back. Others have never forgiven him for the Moore incident. But 1.5M for an 18 goal winger ain't too bad in my book. He was healthy all season, carried the team in December, and if he could just cut out the bad penalties (and the refs quit with the reputation calls) there'd be little to complain about IMO


i don't think thats it at all. i think most people that are down on bertuzzi just get frustrated by the penalties, the lack of hustle, the of consistency, the lack of defense, etc...

with that said, i think most people ended up satisfied with the season he put in. personally i was worried as i think he was pretty bad for calgary the year before despite the point total he ended up with. i think this year he was looking very similar to that player through the first few months.

like i said though, i think people realize he isn't going to get 90-100 points each season like he once did; i think many folks just think his negatives outweigh his positives. hopefully if they bring him back he can have another year like this one as i think overall it was pretty good.


#1979361 how not to play a 2-on-1

Posted by dobbles on 07 May 2010 - 02:00 PM

even though it seemed primarily focused on comedy, it is a really good break down of what did happen and what should have happened.


#1979265 Todd Bertuzzi

Posted by dobbles on 07 May 2010 - 12:17 PM

as one of the harsh bertuzzi critics early in the season, i have been happy with his late season play and playoff play. i still have to yell at the tv a couple times a game because of bert, but at this point his contributions have outweighed his poor overall play. when factoring in his salary, he has definitely been a good signing. for a player like bertuzzi who is getting older, its all about being a complimentary player on your line. and i think he has really fit well on the zetterberg line. it had success late in the regular season with flip and then blew up last night with franzen. i would have never said this at the beginning of the year, but i would be ok if he was brought back. however, i don't think he merits much of a salary bump. he has said he would play for less here, so why not get him a contract similar to this years? many folks seem to think he will want 2-2.5 mil and i do think thats starting to be too much.


#1964511 Why do other NHL teams' fans hate the Wings?

Posted by dobbles on 28 April 2010 - 04:08 PM

i think are several reasons people dislike the wings. a few have been mentioned, but just to make my list complete i will include them anyways:

  • yankee syndrome: been commented on tons already.
  • referee/league favortism: even though most of us would disagree, people still think that the wings recieve way too many calls in their favor. personally, i can think of 2 big reasons for this: holmstrom and eddie olczyk. holmstrom because people like to think he gets away with too much in front of the net and don't realize how many good goals get called back; olczyk because he and other announcers always talk about how many illegal picks the wings run as if they are the only team in all of hockey to ever try to do it.
  • fans: all teams have bad fans. we are no different. but the bad fans are always easiest to remember. and when lots of people are looking for reasons, this can be a convenient one.
  • europeans: unfortunately, theres still a lot of fans that think all players need to come from alberta and get 80 fighting majors a season. there is a lot of dislike for the european 'sissy' hockey the wings play. i personally think its bubkus, but lots of folks really think its legit.
  • attendance: regardless of reasons, fans see the empty seats at the joe and instantly assume that wings fans don't care. i felt this was a separate issue than just fanhood in general.

those are just some thoughts off the top of my head.


#1930575 Calgary Flames watch

Posted by dobbles on 02 April 2010 - 10:59 AM

Who do we want to win that game?


i am hoping colorado. i actually root for them a bit because of kyle quincey and ryan wilson. i got to see ryan wilson a lot when he was with the qc flames so i hope he does well and obvious reasons for quincey wanting to see him succeed. i know the avs used to be hated, but i like all their young guys.

neither team is going to make it far or play us, so i figure might as well root for colorado.

also would love to see calgary choke after how good they thought they were this year.


#1929781 Wings need a change of jersey

Posted by dobbles on 01 April 2010 - 09:55 AM

i don't care what the date is, i think there actually is merit behind the idea. obviously the logo doesn't change, and the general color scheme stays, but i definitely think they could do some tweaking to the jerseys.