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#2323588 Our Current Defense / What Holland Can Do *merged

Posted by Carman on 02 August 2012 - 02:23 PM

That's a lot of print just to say that our defense can score. But they actually have to play defense too, and I think that's where some fans (myself included) start getting nervous. We don't really have any good, top four, defensive defensemen. We also don't really have any big bodied top four defensemen. I recall a couple years ago watching Thornton, Marleau, and Heatley steamroll our defensemen and dominate the front of our net, and that was with Stuart and Lidstrom in the top four. I can't even imagine what they'd have done to Kronwall, White, and Quincey. Same as I sort of cringe when I think about our current defense trying to handle a steady diet of David Backes or Jonathan Toews.

That's the worry from me anyway, there's no doubt in my mind that our defense will score, but that's only useful if they actually play defense too.


Quincey is the same height as Stuart(a couple pounds lighter) and fairly physical all while being a better skater(not saying he's better defensively, but potential is there), Smith is physical and 6'1", White maybe small is actually pretty tough around the net. Ericsson is using his body much more than the past(increasing number of hits every season). I agree though, I would love a Willie Mitchell type dman, but there is potential for us to be a lot more physical on the back end than we've been in the last couple years.


#2306210 My Trade Proposal

Posted by Johnz96 on 09 June 2012 - 01:34 PM

You can disagree all you want, but that doesn't change the fact it is true. Franzen gets hot for 15-25 games every year and score 50% or more of his goals in that time frame. the rest of the year he just floats around the ice like he doesn't even care. yes when hot he is one of the best around. But on the other hand, this a guy who after 8 + seasons has never had a single 60 point season. What was he lat=st year? 96th overall in scoring IIRC. I understand that scoring comes and goes. Most scorers are streaky. But that does not excuse the lake of hustle, skating hard, checking, and playing D the rest of the time. When hot Franzen does all of thsoe things. When he isn't he does none of them.


Franzen was actually 69th in scoring and he only scored 1 point less than Ryan despite playing 5 games less and getting less ice-time per game. You would probably feel the same way about Ryan if he played on your team but he doesn't and the grass is greener on the other side