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#2531930 Holland Wiki page edited

Posted by frankgrimes on 13 July 2014 - 10:59 AM

Sure we could miss the playoffs and some will still say the exact same thing and use the exact lame excuses we've been hearing since 2009. Yeah and because this team is so great, many reputable and serious sources are having the Wings as UFA losers. I don't need to be a GM to accept the fact that Holland has become too emotionally attached to a declining roster without a real identity.


Niskanen would have been instantly this teams best defenseman so yeah what a horrible contract for a 27 old kid.


Haha building through the draft yeah right and that's why he traded away the most promising center prospect and a second for two months of Legwand AND created two of the most hilarious  UFA signings. Being too attached happens to the best of them and Holland is no exception here, I just don't understand why the guy doesn't want to move up and let a fresh guy run the show.

#2531459 Who has been Ken Holland's worst recent free agent signing?

Posted by frankgrimes on 11 July 2014 - 03:28 AM

I can't even choose one because there have been so many questionable signings :(

#2531453 Please Help Me Win GDT of the year.

Posted by frankgrimes on 11 July 2014 - 02:34 AM

Congrats Flashy just awesome, awesome work.


I must admit that Slocal - his other GDTs were more impressive esp. Southpark + Star Trek theme - guy has done some pretty nice work also, that South Park theme had me cracking up *lol* especially Cartman

Also I did like the Habs GDT a lot


may the Photoshop-Might be with you all :-)

#2530753 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by frankgrimes on 09 July 2014 - 09:55 AM

All this talk about Green, what about any of the other solid right handed defenders in the league? Obviously a lot of the guys we would want would be close to untouchable but what about a young kid like Jacob Trouba from Winnipeg? What do people think it would take to get him, and would it be worth it? I personally think the kid is going to be unreal in a few years, and I'm guessing the Jets probably feel the same about him. So it may be costly, but how much would it cost us?


What about a trade something like:


To Detroit - Jacob Trouba

To Winnipeg - Tomas Tatar, Jakub Kindl, Xavier Ouellet, Landon Ferraro, 2015 2nd (or 1st if that's the only way the deal gets done)


Imagine a top 6 in a couple years of:


DeKeyser - Trouba

Smith - Sproul

Kronwall - Ericsson / Backman / Marchenko


That guy combined with Scheifele is probably at the top of Cheveldayoffs untouchable list.

#2530536 What's best for Mantha?

Posted by frankgrimes on 08 July 2014 - 12:59 AM

Babcock is far from being the problem, the guy had been given a mediocre roster at best and yet coached them into the plaoffs 2 season in a row. I think the reception around the league is "very hard but fair" and that's exactly what you want from your coach. A coach isn't someone who can/should let his personal feelings disrupt his ability to ice the best roster he can with the given material.


Babcock got a bunch of superstars to play a team first game for him and absolutely crushed the olympics. Guy is by far the best coach in hockey and there is a reason why a guy like Super Mario is only offering a one year coaching contract (2 year payment).. Once Babcock is gone, people will start to realize how fortunate he were with him.

#2530307 What's best for Mantha?

Posted by frankgrimes on 06 July 2014 - 09:02 PM

This will be his first year as a pro, so let him experience success in GR and give him the for sure coming call up. Just don't rush the kid and let him develop at his own pace.

#2529901 Hockey News: Red Wings D hunting

Posted by frankgrimes on 03 July 2014 - 10:35 PM

Byuflin would make this offseason disaster complete, fat, overweight coachkiller with a questionable dedication to the game...rather sign no one than trading for him or a guy like Green. Oilers are trying hard to fix their own d why should they trade Petry?

#2529850 Article on FAs and Red Wings

Posted by frankgrimes on 03 July 2014 - 05:19 PM

I think it is a combination of a lot of things:


1. Personal preference

You can't do anything about that, see Parise, Suter


2.  Develano and his stupid comments

I'm not turning this into a lockout thread but I've said at the time his comments for sure won't be well received among his players nor leaguewide.


3. WoW Factor

Let's face it, this team doesn't have upcoming superstars and the two reamining ones are aging, dealing with more and more injuries. Getting a chance to play on a young team with a lot of questionmarks isn't going to entice top UFAs to sign here, especially if the offers are lower than they expected. 38 vs 40 million may not be a big differense over the whole contract but 2 million are two million, add to that the familarity factor between Niskanen and his former coach and voila he signs with the Caps.


Also this team is known as a very soft one which gets pushed around way too easily.


4. New CBA

Now that even contract lengths are caped we can't even offer longer contracts, so basically our money will be equal or comparable to the ones other teams are offering and if one of those other teams is a top team ==> we won't get the player :(


5. Payback for the lowballs

Holland expected players to take a paycut (be it slight or huge) in order to play for the RedWings, well this worked out when we've not only been a powerhouse but the team to beat..so players who wanted a chance at the cup gave up some money for their chance, now we are fighting for the playoffs and the tides are turning so Hollaand might have to significantly overpay in order to get the top UFAS, which coupled with point 4 isn't easy to do.


6. Amway Partnership

I honestly believe this partnership has harmed the reputation of the Wings a lot more than people would have thought.


At the end of the day, the best way to find out would be asking the agents why more and more UFAs are shying away from this team and then it will be Kenny's job to fix this in a hurry. He is getting paid the big bucks and now has to show everyone that he still has it -which I doubt after this UFA debacle and the last few years - but we'll see.



ps: I've read somewhere - think it was Bleacherrport - that Ehrhoff would have come here with a 5 year contract a 5 per but Kenny only offered 4 and wouldn't offer the 5 one, then the Pens came calling and he accepted their offer. If that's true then...oh well

#2529806 Hollands new contract a no brainer?

Posted by frankgrimes on 03 July 2014 - 03:04 PM

Original 6 franchise, formerly known as the destination for UFAs and now the reality...so yeah this is really a no brainer. He has an eye for talent so let him move up become the VP and guide the new GM. We really blew it with Stevie and Jim.


As for Babcock easiest decision ever, the guy will have half the league looking for him and he has the chance to coach Crosby and Malkin during their prime years, sadly for us this is also a no-brainer. Guy will be gone as soon as his contract is up and I don't blame him one bit, Holland hasn't given him the tools to succeed.

#2529562 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by frankgrimes on 02 July 2014 - 04:31 PM

I'm so tired of this, "if we weren't injured" argument.  Datsyuk and Zetterberg weren't injured when we lost in the first round to San Jose in 2010.  They weren't injured when we lost in the second round to San Jose in 2011.  They weren't injured when we got embarrassed by Nashville in 2012.  They weren't injured when we blew a 3 games to 1 lead against Chicago a year ago.  And they very likely weren't the only people playing injured in this year's mauling by Boston. 


Another thing, people play hurt in the playoffs all the time.  Bergeron was nearly dead a year ago and Boston had no trouble making it to the finals.  Anybody that thinks a healthy Pavel or Hank change the outcome of our series isn't looking at recent history, and isn't taking into account the fact that injuries don't only happen to Detroit. 


We lose because our "elite" players aren't good enough anymore.  Our up and comers aren't good enough yet.  And everybody else is just average. 


Took the words out of me wanted to post exactly that. Bergeron played through a tremendous amount of injuries, Quick played with a wrist hernia guys it's the playoffs nobody is 100 %. Even in 2009 we lost against a better and grittier Pens team, they've had injuries too so no excuses.


We have 2 aging superstars, lot's of questionable prospects with unknown updside and an atrocious defense don't even want to think about where they would be without Danny D.


this team hasn't been good enough since our last stanley cup run, period.

#2529344 Quincey re-signed by DET. 2 yr s $4.25 mill AAV

Posted by frankgrimes on 02 July 2014 - 08:42 AM

This really makes Holland seem like a panicking idiot with no plan.


I would looooooove to hear Babcock's thoughts on this situation.


Imagine the sound of his voice when he ripped the team another one during one 24/7 special and than multiply it 2 times and add some glass shattering...that might come close to what he is really thinking right now.

#2528786 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by frankgrimes on 01 July 2014 - 05:33 PM

Maybe the top guys are really concerned about our future. Let's face it our two superstars are getting older and nobody knows how Zetterbergs back is going to hold up. Jurco, Tatar, Nyquist, Sheahan are nice players but they certainly won't wow players the way Crosby and Malkin or even OV can. Nobody knows if Sproul, Marchenko and others are going to turn into regular top 4 pairing guys.


So from that point I understand why the players would be hesitant but:

one sources is reporting we've offered Niskanen less (38 < 40,25) and others are saying we offered more so what is now true ? If we indeed offered more than well the problem is much bigger than we all might have thought. Maybe it is a way for agents and their clients to pay back for all the lowball offers and expecting players to sign here with an almost given discount ?


Whatever it is Holland has to share some of the blame - if he underpaid all the blame - here. It's a GMs job to make the team a destination but I also think (after cooling down a bit) that the new CBA is screwing us over, we can't sign players to longterm contracts we can't offer them more money because of thef****** parity. How come original 6 franchises are ok with this ?!


Maybe this was the much needed  kick in the center and our frontoffice stuff now realizes that we aren't a premier destination anymore and works their **** off for us to become one again and yes, this includes overpaying.


I'm still surprised Niskanen chose Washington over the Wild I'd rather play at home and build a great pairing with Suter or mentor Brodin instead of going into a team, that doesn't know how to spell defense.


My 2 word answer to the ever so important streak: screw it

#2528656 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by frankgrimes on 01 July 2014 - 04:18 PM

Well looking at the positives, Mike Ilitch is not going to watch Holland running this team like a small market one for much longer. Offer Lombardi or Chiarelli a blank check and let's see if Anschutz or Jacobs are matching..

#2528581 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by frankgrimes on 01 July 2014 - 04:00 PM


Chris Johnston

$40 .25M over seven years from #caps for Matt Niskanen, to be precise.



Wow that's a VERY reasonable pricetag for a guy like Niskanen glad we didn't do a whole lot of nothing to fix this team.


This team went from being the elite of the elite to behind the pack to a trainwreck ,. thanks Holland...move up already and


stop running this team like a small market team, we are the DETROIT RED WINGS ORIGINAL 6 FRANCHISE WE WANT A PLAYER we should get him ! god I wish we had Nil, Yzerman, Lombardi, Chiarelli...This will for sure be Babcocks last year behind the bench and I don't blame him one bit, even he signs with Pittsburgh


kick your own f****** Ferrari tires

#2527082 Ehrhoff or Niskanen

Posted by frankgrimes on 29 June 2014 - 09:51 PM

we can afford both. Erhoff got bought out, so he can come fairly cheap. $3M maybe. Niskanen $6m maybe. Trade Kindl and give that $2.4M to Diesel. You still got $5m for Sheahan and Tatar. Once you dump Andersson and give Sheahan and Tats about $2.5M together. You have over $3M for Iginla or just hold on to the $3M for space.

This is the real NHL not NHL x GM mode.