I don't understand this trade from Buffalo's point of view. They are rebuilding and a guy with serious attitude problems should be the last thing they should want alongside their up and coming players.
Bad trade Murray
Frank, a good NHL forth liner should still be able to at least look somewhat decent in the AHL. Luke Glendening was a point per game player in the minors. Mitch Callahan is closing in on that now, and would be a MUCH better option on our forth line than Davidf****** Broll... He is a scrub.
Also, how the hell does that video make him worth a 7th rounder?? LOL
Ok just looked it up they've send him the ECHL maybe I was a bit too excited seems to have fallen off a bit lately.
I think that some of the loss to Boston and the statistical disappearance of the young guns taught them they need to keep cranking it up a notch for the playoffs. They were strong down the stretch, but either they felt "mission accomplished" after getting in and were just happy to be there (like the 1995 finals) or didn't fully get the need to take up to yet another level due to their inexperience.
Well Boston was just too good in every aspect of the game. I think the young guns were surprised with how different the compete level in the playoffs is.
I also think some players were just gassed too after fighting tooth and nails to even get into the show.
Very true, you almost need to lose in the playoffs to learn how to win. Think back to how the Devils crushed the Wings in 1995 (I had tix for game 5 if it had happened), but that set the table in some ways for the 97 and 98 wins. I remember the victory lap with the Campbell trophy for winning the conference because it had been such a long drought. Even though on paper, the Wings should have won the Finals, that belied that mentally they weren't quite there yet, and the Scott Stevens destroying of Kozlov became a metaphor for the series.
The adding of Shanahan and the experience from '95 were key to the subsequent success. 2002 was a cup that should have been a no brainier, but if not for Lidstrom's long range score on Cloutier, they could have been gone in the first. So many things have to go right in a playoff run to get the cup. Cujo played great in goal for the Wings when he was here, but the boys gave him no run support, and Cujo was unfairly blamed for early exits by many.
Last year's stretch run to the playoffs was a step for the younger players, but they didn't know how to get it done in the post season, and Boston was a good team. That experience paid off this year - Nyquist, Tatar, Sheahan are all playing at the high end of expectations for them, if not exceeding them. If our boys stay healthy, they have a chance in a seven game series against any team in the league his year. They may not be favorites, but I don't think they will get blown out by anyone if they are healthy.
That's why it's by far the hardest trophy to win in all of sports the salary cap, revenue sharing and some **** CBA rules have made it even more difficult but I don't agree that you have to lose in order to learn how to win it all. Young players need confidence and experience but getting slauthered against Boston might not have been the best experience (if Detroit makes it they should use that as motivation if possible).
God that 2002 team how do I miss them may be one of the best rosters ever and what a great year that has been
Nevermind, the rumor originated from the @HockeyInsiderr twitter account...
I still think we could move our 1st rounder for one year for something we need now and not endanger our future with all the talent we have developing. I think it would be worth the risk. Even if Franson left. Although, he would see that once you come here, and the money is available, there is no real reason to leave...
As much as I've come along on the Franson thing I would not trade a first rounder for an upcoming UFA, unless it's someone of an even higher calibre and that guy is not available. Franson is from BC so I could easily see him signing with the Canucks come the off-season. A second and a B level prospect might be worth it because the benefits would be a.) ~ 2 months of exclusively negotations and b.) being able to offer him 8 instead of 7 years ( = more money).
He has the size to bring back Kronwalled although it would be Franson(ed) but either way a nice addition.
Yeah and we are already seeing rats like Rinaldo acting tough against guys like Letang would he do the same thing if they still had Engelland? Maybe but then he would smash his face.
The day a Super star gets hurt by a rat week be the day when guys with passion are going to be back.
Hockey for sure is better with players like Prust.
Also love the site great incite on what's going on in the life of pros
Prust is one of those players that can hit, fight and occasionally score. Seems like a good teammate and leader.
Basically the kind of guy Holland and Babcock don't want on this team from their past moves and their treatment of Tootoo. It's not just them not liking an enforcer who can't score. They don't really go after the Prust type players either.
Yep when I think of Hockey Players Prust is one of the guys who immediately comes in mind he is tough, humble, honest, physical and a great leader. Every hockey team would be better with such players on their team.
He talks about how he became a tough guy, the code and that sometimes emotions are getting the best of him even against some of his best buddies like King Henrik and Stepan.
At the end Prust gives a nice incite on what goes on the day before a fight.. He doesn't sleep much, still fears the opponent and when the day comes he prefers his fights early to get it out of the way. The best part is probably him talking about rats and what he thinks of guys that are going after skilled and smaller players.
Buffalo is not mismanaged far from it. Murray doesn't have an easy job he has to clear all the mistakes from Regier. Sure Regier didn't have a lot to work with because their former owner has been a penny pincher who couldn't care less about the team. Burke once said about Regier that they spoke a different language in terms of judging talent in trades and that the guy was just too reluctant to give up anything worthwhile in a trade. After Pegula bought the team he saw first hand that Ruff, Regier and their current core (Vanek, Pomminville, Miller and Roy) aren't bringing them up the cup so they blew it up. That's not mismanaged that's looking forward.
McEichel will be the biggest piece of their puzzle but they already have some other young and coming guys on the team/minors and Buffalo isn't going to make the same mistake as Edmonton (a.) drafting offense after offense and b.) rushing them to the NHL when they aren't ready.
What other options does Buffalo have ? Other than teams like the Leafs they for sure weren't going to keep around a core that just couldn't get the job done so that means rebuild from top to bottom at that phase people can't expect UFAs willing to sign there. So the only logical step is to draft as good as possible and make no mistake Buffalo isn't the only team gearing up for one of the two phenoms and guess what their fans deserve it. I just have a bit of a soft spot for them because their story reminds so much of the Wings pre Yzerman and pre Ilitch.