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#2538898 Krys Barch unloads his frustrations

Posted by frankgrimes on 07 October 2014 - 04:51 PM

 

Frank.... you started the thread quoting a player complaining about his (and others like him) diminishing role as an enforcer.  

 

I'm not sure how you're surprised that would turn into a discussion about "the diminishing role of an enforcer."

 

 

I'm not sure what you mean by this...

 

The state nerds you know that new TSN guys who seem to provide nothing else, than stupid tables filled with math stuff instead of easy to understand (Goals, Assists, Point Totals) things. I mean, everyone can sit in the basement and play around with excel sheets they didn't need to hire someone for that.




#2538887 Krys Barch unloads his frustrations

Posted by frankgrimes on 07 October 2014 - 04:40 PM

TSN just posted a radio segment discussing the diminishing role of the enforcer.

 

They point to analytics and then fail to reasonably connect the two in any way.

 

Please don't turn that into another pro/anti enforcer thread. My intention was to give inside on how a former NHL player feels degraded;pissed off and is giving his thoughts on which players are harder or easier to play against (we are talking about fourth liners here of course).

 

btw. I'd rather spend time with cool, down to earth heavyweight champs/tough guys instead of some mum's basement dwellers who aren't doing anything other than playing around with Excel state sheets 24/7 and act like know it all smartasses no appreciation more pity for that "new wave"...I would be surprised if one of them ever watched a game without a cam or calculator...




#2538853 Krys Barch unloads his frustrations

Posted by frankgrimes on 07 October 2014 - 03:48 PM

In all honesty I would rather play against Drew Miller 82 games a year vs Colton Orr or Jordan Toottoo.

 

Who wouldn't ? Miller brings nothing to the table, Orr is as tough as they come and Toottoo while not as tough will hit everything that moves.




#2538848 Devils Sign Tootoo

Posted by frankgrimes on 07 October 2014 - 03:42 PM

Glad for him, guy deserves it. Make the best of it Toots

 

btw. if Brunner hasn't made the roster he goes on waivers right ?




#2538768 Prayers are needed

Posted by frankgrimes on 07 October 2014 - 01:17 PM

Nice to hear you are doing well so far. Hopefully when everything is over you are fully painfree :)




#2538554 TSN new website a mess ?

Posted by frankgrimes on 06 October 2014 - 02:01 PM

Maybe I'm too stupid but I still can't find anything on this site and on the verge of giving up :evil:




#2538467 Holland interview with Mickey comment about a trade

Posted by frankgrimes on 05 October 2014 - 05:55 PM

I would be happy with Roman Josi, great player on a tremendous cap hit, only downside is he isn't physical at all and I'm not sure if he could run the powerplay. But he had offensive upside Maybe our favorite Predsfan can talk about his availability?


#2538412 Holland interview with Mickey comment about a trade

Posted by frankgrimes on 04 October 2014 - 11:15 PM


Given his track record, I dont think we want Holland making a trade.


 
Can I ask what his poor track record is? I'm guessing you will say the Legwand trade, which I dont think is fair yet as we dont know what Jarnkrok is going to become. Other then maybe the Quincey trade, I cant think of one that bad.
 


The Jarnkrok trade was a pure panic move based on the notion of him going back to Sweden stock didn't come true. You just don't trade a guy like him for 2 months of a third line center, when the team is in extreme need of defense


#2538090 TSN Radio - McKenzie: Enforcers in the NHL

Posted by frankgrimes on 03 October 2014 - 03:34 AM

I loved the line where he was challenged by carkner You stick up for your teammates. Ive been on his side many times, and I didnt want to turn him down. You kind of respect him sticking up for his teammates."
It always astounds me how well mannered and respectful these guys are, they know they're a dying breed and generally speaking they're the most honorable dudes on the ice.
Things like that are why I fell in love with the game, I love football, but hockey always seemed to show the best of respect in competition.

And they need to sign someone who can take on the fighting for him.
Its only a matter of time before these guys start showing signs of cte, and all the other health problems that come along with multiple concussions.

 

Fully agreed and it really pisses me off, how such great, honorable and respectful guys aren't getting the support they deserve from everybody. These guys are fully aware of the dangers, consequens and yet they are sticking up for something honorable and their teammates no matter at what cost. Another reason why I can't stand the anti-fighting crowd those guys deserve nothing but the utmost respect.

 

Fully agreed the Devils should sign Big Mac Steve MacIntyre or Gillies if he doesn't make the Flames roster and let Clowe focus on playing on the edge without risking further damages.




#2538087 TSN Luke Schenn could be available

Posted by frankgrimes on 03 October 2014 - 02:54 AM


Which Schenn did Paul Holmgren trade James Van Riemsdyk for?  (It's so hard for me to say that with a straight face)


 
It was Luke. I used to watch him on the Leafs all the time, he was their 6th D-man in his last year and used to play 6min a game. He has been regressing like crazy over the past few years.
This would be a horrible trade, he comes with a 3.6 million cap hit for the next 2 years.


Maybe he needs a better defensive partner or some sort of mentor? I've seen a few games of him too, he was really good in his first year. I'm also sure Brayden wouldn't be too happy seeing his brother traded.


#2538048 TSN Radio - McKenzie: Enforcers in the NHL

Posted by frankgrimes on 02 October 2014 - 04:19 PM

 

Which in the end, doesn't help your star player whatsoever. If we are talking about whether or not a goon results in vengeance, nobody will argue that. If we are asking if having a goon prevents injuries, I personally think very little.

 

Well the other "star player" is getting the same threatment so it's more like wanna act like an idiot ? Fine we'll send out our tough guy and see how you like our response. Just look back at that famous Isles - Pens brawl, Pittsburgh made jokes about the Isles being too soft and tried to rough them up morre than once but after the Isles returned the favour it didn't happen again.




#2538015 TSN Radio - McKenzie: Enforcers in the NHL

Posted by frankgrimes on 02 October 2014 - 09:19 AM

Surprise, surprise enforcers help keeping the other team honest. But of course the media is only talking about it if it happens to Crosby, the Z incident wasn't even a news article..With a guy like McGrattan Weber would maybe still have smashed him against the glass, but then McGrattan would have smashed Web *through* the glass.




#2537865 TSN Interview with Connor McDavid

Posted by frankgrimes on 30 September 2014 - 07:06 PM

http://www.tsn.ca/vi...rsation-1.94816

 

A very well spoken, level headed down to earth guy. McKenzie - as always - did a great job asking respectful but also funny question.

 

Highlights:

- hates players who put themselves over the game

- feels extremely lucky and fortunate to be in this position

- owes his mum and dad everything

- is a bit superstitious 8/10

- thinks Jack Eichel is a great player

- believes Finland wasn't the best team on paper but they were the best team because they've played as an unit

 

Impressed with how mature and well spoken he is for a 17 old.

 

 




#2537418 Datsyuk 2nd degree separated shoulder injury - out approx 4 weeks

Posted by frankgrimes on 27 September 2014 - 03:34 AM

Getting a tough guy would be easy and cheap.  Would it do anything to improve the Wings or prevent any injuries?  I doubt it.  The Wings never were a "free agent destination" and as has been discussed many times, the free agents who have "shunned" the Wings haven't gone to better teams in better cities or for more money in most cases.  Are the Wings too loyal and stick with veteran players way too long?  Absolutely.  In some cases, it worked, in others it didn't.  

 

Keeping the other team honest can be correlated to less injuries. Hockey is a physical sport there is no way to 100 % prevent injuries but there are ways to force the other team to clean their act up. One of them is to finally get a another Downey, DMac to take care of business. Yes it's easy and cheap, yet it hasn't been done since our last cup (needless to say the Wings haven't one anything since then and are losing out on top UFA players also).

 

The Wings were never a free agent destination ? False, there was a team when the Wings could almost dictate the terms and free agents still died to come here...I know it seems like forever. Ehrhoff went to a much better Stanley Cup contender for 4 million that's an absolute steal!

 

 

 

I'm just saying that I'll take a meathead if we can't get a fighter with talent (which I know we won't).    

 

Enforcer may be on the bottom of the list, but the top of the list isn't something Holland seems to be able to realistically address.  He doesn't have any sway over free agents anymore and neither does the organization.  We're not going to obtain a top 6 winger or a top pair defenseman, so what's the use wishing for the impossible.

 

Getting a tough guy would be easy and cheap.   

 

The funny thing is those so called "meatheads" are playing a very clean game they know what their job is and they execute it well. I really can't think of any cheapshot by the likes of Colton Orr, Brian McGrattan (guy even gives other enforcers a second chance to guess if they really want to go with him!) or Frazer McLaren.

 

Also in my mind Tootoo is more of an agitator than an enforcer, yeah he will fight and provide some energy but agitators often need enforcers because they aren't feared, their job is to get under the skin of the other team.

 

For everyone saying getting g etting a tough guy is low priority...well the team also failed - like GMR 1983 mentioned - to land top pairing or top 6 guys and some of them don't even want to come here so that doesn't leave a lot of options other than hoping for some prospects to turn out much better than expected, otherwise neither Pasha nor Z will see another cup with this team. And personally I'd rather watch an entertaining team than pussysoft one that gets pushed around and have their best player missing time due to ellbows, hard preseason hits...The rematch against the Ottawa Senators was embarrassing.




#2537397 Datsyuk 2nd degree separated shoulder injury - out approx 4 weeks

Posted by frankgrimes on 26 September 2014 - 01:26 PM

Wheter people like it or not the mental mindset also plays a huge in hockey. If I'm a bigger team I'd love to play the Wings:

 

- hit everything that moves ... at worse case a non existant powerplay big deal kill it off and keep hitting

- go after their star players and no response

- star gets injured ? Well we don't have to fear anything because the team is pussysoft and won't fight fire with fire.

 

Downey used Laperiere as his punching bag and the whole team came together in such an amazing fashion. I'm starting to wonder what would happen if someone pulls a Keczmar against Pasha, Z business as usual I guess ? For everyone saying oh we don't need tough guys we need skill, this team hasn't won anything since they've lost toughness (sure the Wings also lost a ton of FO and on ice skill too) but that's the fact.

 

Players want to feel safe outthere and play there game, without having to worry about rats.

 

How is Calgary too tough ? They might add a 160 lbs !!! player would people like it to feed someone like that to the wolves ? The rats - who are now taking over - would absolutely take advantage of him and intimidate Johnny Hockey at every opportunity they might still do it, but then have to be prepared for the wrath of Bollig, McGrattan, Engelland, Yonkman...

Last season 1 guy stood up for Pasha and it was Sam a guy who doesn't and shouldn't fight.

 

Yeah the Milan Lucic type doesn't grow on trees but it's not that hard to add guys like Colton Orr, McGrattan heck McLaren, Frazer, Steve MacIntyre were on waivers and could be had for nothing. We are talking about 4 line players here, there job isn't to score goals or prevent them they have an average TOi  of ~ 8 minutes their job is  to keep the other team honest and making sure that people pay for taking advantage of Pasha. If we had MacIntyre or McLaren on our team, Scuderi would have thought twice about hitting Pasha and Cowen would have kept his damn ellbow down. Injuries are not something that will go away so the last thing this team needs is the added factor of more injuries from hard hits in PRESEASON games. Get rid of the instigator and let's see if the Marchand's, Cooke's and Lapierre's of the league are still so "brave"