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#2332641 Sacrifice the full season to guarantee Bettman's removal?

Posted by frankgrimes on 24 October 2012 - 06:23 PM

You fail to take into account that Illitch does not lose money on the wings, the last 5 years or so his "losing" franchise was in the top 5 revenue teams every year.


Also it could be more than that if the best owner in all of sports wouldn't have th share the revenue wth failed franchises or pay for a effing undersized anti hockeyguy.

The players hired Fehr to get a fair deal no offer from the NHL has been close to that.

I'd say however long it takes if some OWNER created problems and this atrocious commissioner are removed its well worth it.

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#2332640 [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

Posted by frankgrimes on 24 October 2012 - 06:13 PM

The NHL can go eff off. I hope the players won't budge so the midget fatback Daily and the play it poor owners won't try this s*** again.



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#2332564 [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

Posted by frankgrimes on 23 October 2012 - 09:56 PM

Well Daily and midget your proposal is still a joke players don't gain anything from signing it.

1. Give up 7 % of their salary which is way too much, 52 to 48 would be fair for both sides.

2. On top of that giving up more rights, so they'd have to play for teams even longer just because they were unlucky enough to get drafted by a questionable team

3. That shouldn't even be possible legally, because even talking about changing existing contracts is a big showing the PA the fingers from the owners.
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Who is responsible for stuff going wrong?

Owners for extending an undersized man, responsible for a lockout hattrick, allowing franchises in places that don't even know what snow means.

Want to fix mistakes? Start with firing the most hated person in hockey.

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#2332288 Sacrifice the full season to guarantee Bettman's removal?

Posted by frankgrimes on 19 October 2012 - 10:19 PM

Guessing you've missed the point of who created this mess. Just a hint it is an undersized overpaid minime with a bunch of 8 billionaire blowhards.

The owners decided to allow the most hated man in hockey such powers and they've accepted things like

- sunbelt failure
- refusing to move some babysitted teams
- can't control themselves
- blindsiding players this summer

All the players did was accepting great contracts +willingly & freely+ offered by a bunch multi billionaires.

Oh and btw. teams like the Wings are getting punished and limited for having a long tradition and an established fanbase. Illitch has to pay millions so the effing midget can support his stupid grow the game and false parity crap.

Wanna swim with the Sharks but can't support to do so ? Well could luck in another city hungry for hockey such as Quebec.



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#2332162 Sacrifice the full season to guarantee Bettman's removal?

Posted by frankgrimes on 18 October 2012 - 07:43 PM

Notice I made no attempt to exonerate or blame the owners, so can we turn down the defensiveness and focus on the actual point I made?

Both the players (agents) and owners could see the writing on the wall. The players negotiated and signed giant long term deals on the cusp of a likely lockout where they knew contract lengths and salary cap concerns would be addressed, yet somehow they are coming through squeaky clean in the eyes of many?


A contract ones again is a legal binding agreement, the contract you are signing today with all the clauses can not be modified until BOTH sides agree to it. Boy I'd love seeing ******* like Jacobs crying infront of a judge about a contract he has willingly given out and then with all his billionaire friends crying again about not being able to pay it.

Judges would rip these dirty gamblers a new one.


#2332161 NHL Fan Lockout Pledge

Posted by frankgrimes on 18 October 2012 - 07:39 PM

Want to hit the NHL where it hurts?

Stop buying their stuff, going to the games at least at the start (whenever that will be), cancel center-ice packages and stop buying merchandise with the NHL logo printed on it - these are the things that hurt. Do some people honestly believe the PA or NHL cares about unliking them? *lol* this is a business and as we all know you hurt a business by refusing to buy ( = giving them money) their stuff.


#2332022 [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

Posted by frankgrimes on 17 October 2012 - 11:30 PM

http://www.sportsnet..._fehr_to_nhlpa/



If you really want some insight into what the PA is thinking, read the letter Fehr wrote. I also don't think it was accidental this was made public. Moar PR.


I love the way Fehr is doing this, he is keeping all the players informed and giving them exactly the data they need. Reading the comments on some of the more well known sites makes me think, some people can't even be bothered to read more than a headline "oh wow 50:50 split" and then they stop reading to me that is funny and really showing their "attention-spawn".

If am Fehr my counter would be, ok 50:50 BUT HRR is defined the same way, all other things are staying the same too and no contract lenght cap.


#2331832 Sacrifice the full season to guarantee Bettman's removal?

Posted by frankgrimes on 16 October 2012 - 08:09 PM

Exactly he needs to go no matter the outcome.


#2331677 Sacrifice the full season to guarantee Bettman's removal?

Posted by frankgrimes on 15 October 2012 - 08:32 PM

Sure the next guy will do what some owners want but it could be a fresh start. Whos to say the players are against sticking it to him? He is by far the most hated person in hockey.

Hell I Think even Stern could do a better job than him. Fehr has despite late starts to the negotiations done nothing wrong, he provided solutions.

What we need are two sides that aren't trying to screw over the other side and this is exactly why the first owner proposal IS a such a big deal.

Lose this and another season so the midget can get fired to me is worth it.

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#2331482 Sacrifice the full season to guarantee Bettman's removal?

Posted by frankgrimes on 13 October 2012 - 07:48 AM

Count me in, even if its two, two 1/2 years midget needs to go.


#2331227 Z basically says Bettman should be fired

Posted by frankgrimes on 10 October 2012 - 05:12 PM

Boyle should have kept his mouth shut. Even if he was privy to some inside information (Which he probably isnt) does he honestly beleive there arent players out there who just want to play and arent in favor of asking for the moon? I am willing to bet my life savings (Granted it isnt much) that there is a MUCH higher percentage of players who just want to play then there are owners who do. This is why the players will cave first and revenue will probably end up being split some where close to 50 -50. Like every other sports league.

The best thing the owners have done is not say anything. Every single time a player opens his mouth in the press it ends up sounding selfish, immature and just plain stupid.


Ever heard of the right of free speech?

Why do so many pro owner people care about others leagues? I doubt you can receive a concussion in baseball or basketball and footballs revenue is based around a big TV contract, something the NHL doesn't have yet. Once things are getting personal for players, there is more than just money to a story.

All the owners are doing here, is removing some of the troubled franchises if this thing will go over multiple years the midget can look at some empty expansion buildings soon.


#2330885 [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

Posted by frankgrimes on 07 October 2012 - 10:09 AM

I love it, some superstars are already threatening the NHL because now they do have alternatives and other leagues to play in. If we lose Datsyuk because of this I'll swear I gonna lose it.


#2330802 Z basically says Bettman should be fired

Posted by frankgrimes on 05 October 2012 - 06:46 PM

Sure they can sit here and defend him but so what? This guy is an absolute enigma to hockey and needs to be canned asap, hell even Daily could do a better job than him and yes including the golfpro!

Midget has accomplished:

=3 lockouts in two decades thats a 100 % lockout success.
=Responsible for failed franchises and not willing to admit it cause of his little man syndrome like Lupul mentioned.
= most hated man in hockey
= fullfills every stereotype about a certain type of lawyers
= destroyed the game and doesn't care about our tradition
= no special thanks to he leagues backbone
= hated by Illitch
= cost DRW fans two years of Yzerman, Fedorov Shanhan and one of the perfect human that alone is enough to hate this damn midget

Enough is enough can this greedy bastard.

The league as a whole doesn't lose money some franchises are actually making money.

Just get rid off the damn CBA and introduce a luxury tax like the MLB. I am sick of seeing the Wings handicapped because some owners want to play it poor.

When classacts like Selanne, Toews, Boyle and now our next captain are fed up you know something has gone very wrong. Also the media has jumped on the fire Bettman wagon at some point the owners wont have a choice other than finally firing this 8 million waste of a human.

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#2330375 [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

Posted by frankgrimes on 30 September 2012 - 05:21 PM

Well yes I side with the players but not 100 %. The only people I am behind so much are the guys and gals whos income depends on hockey you know scouts, equipment managers, bar owners, DJ's and facility managers.

I mean if both sides would give 5 % and come together on some small issues such as not capping contract length this lockout could be over soon. Having said that if 5 % still aren't good enough for the midget then he needs to be fired as soon as possible.

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#2330353 [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

Posted by frankgrimes on 30 September 2012 - 11:51 AM

I really hope the players drag this out till the owners are coming to their senses and/or are firing this 8 million waste of human flesh.

Record revenues but some franchises are losing money? Move them to places that do appreciate hockey or open the real books! Even the guy who owned the Yotes sold them for way more than they are worth. Effing billionaires crying poor but are wasting a huge junk off money on failed franchises.

Who cares about growing the game? Rather see places who love hockey getting a team but yeahg not gonna happen this midget.

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