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#2493136 2014 draft thoughts.

Posted by frankgrimes on 08 March 2014 - 10:32 AM

Defenders, Defenders, Defenders and thanks to some questionable moves find another young center with potential.

#2492398 3/6 GDT: Avs 3 at Red Wings 2 (OT) Sorry Nick.

Posted by frankgrimes on 07 March 2014 - 09:03 AM

Rafalski left, Stuart left, Lidstrom left, and non of them were replaced. Holland is lucky Dekeyser fell into his lap.

Holmer left and he never replaced him one of the most underrated retirements ever. Overpaying for depth instead of stars won't fix anything. Come off season a defenseman needs to wear a winged jersey next season.

#2491938 3/6 GDT: Avs 3 at Red Wings 2 (OT) Sorry Nick.

Posted by frankgrimes on 06 March 2014 - 07:51 PM

Man man didn't cry but a few tears here and there. A perfect celebration for the perfect human seems fitting.


This will be the last retired number reminding us of possible the greatest Wings era ever. Not going to watch the rest of the game.


ps: the Truckthing was kinda lame don't let sponsoring destroy such a special event.

#2491832 Dear Mr Legwand

Posted by frankgrimes on 06 March 2014 - 06:36 PM

I've said in the 43 Pages thread and I'll said it again, it's nothing against him. Welcome to The Red Wings and I'll hope you enjoy your stay here.

#2491815 3/6 GDT: Avs 3 at Red Wings 2 (OT) Sorry Nick.

Posted by frankgrimes on 06 March 2014 - 06:04 PM

Words can't describe how fortunate I feel having watched this guy play for so many years. At earliest days my internet bill went up crazy but who cares.



#2491808 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by frankgrimes on 06 March 2014 - 05:53 PM


I too respect the fact we differ on such things but you can never ever count out any team once they get in - see LA 2012. And with the way we played in the playoffs last year I wouldn't count anything out. Yes it'll be tough without Z, but no one ever said we couldn't make it. Right now we are right on the bubble with games in hand, so let's not forget that. And if we play stifling defence ala in Montreal, then why can't we get in, get everyone healthy, (mostly) and make a charge? We'll be deep as hell down the middle, and talented underdogs. 


I don't feel the need to throw in the towel just for the sake of a better draft pick. We all know that good picks are mandated mainly by the scouting staff and not just the position of the pick. Obviously top 10 gets you something better than late 1st, but really we all know the draft is a crapshoot. IMO if there's a chance to make the playoffs you have to go for it, which is exactly what KH did yesterday by getting Legwand


Back to your point about Burke, what exactly did his tirade of 'truculence', 'belligerence', and general war chanting get him and for the Leafs? A new job in Calgary and a lack of success. Granted the Leafs are now better than they have been for a while, but are they really going anywhere? 


And just exactly how easy is it to trade for legitimate guys with grit who also have the ability to pop in a goal or two? These guys are pretty rare commodities, and as such are valued accordingly. hence why the price for Kesler was/is so high. I'd be interested to see what happens to him in the summer though, especially if the Canucks don't make it. 


If KH did say the kids weren't the answer, then that's fair enough. But he should be given credit for going with these guys mid season when it was clearly obvious that we needed it due to injuries and guys like Cleary and Bert weren't getting it done anymore. It's one thing to make mistakes, but another to learn from them. The kid line has arguably been our best the last couple of months


While I will criticise KH for the moves I don't feel were justified (see resigning Cleary, the Weiss deal, trading for Q), I still have faith and yesterday showed us that KH still wants to win just as much as anyone. As a fan, you cannot fault that, because that is the entire reason we have a 22 year streak in the first place. 


The thing with LA 12 is this:

Before the start of the regular season many people had them as one if not the cup favorite, LA simply underachieved in the regular season then added Carter and got hot at the right time. Their situation is different in so many ways:


- goaltending: elite

- defense: WOW

- middle: size, grit and goalscoring touch

LA is perfectly built for the playoffs.


Throwing in the towel doesn't mean to cheer for losing (at least for me) it just means accepting reality and thinking about the longterm future. Good thing you've brought up the Maple Leafs remember their JF he traded away youth for shortterm fixes and what happened? They've foudn themselves outside of the playoffs for almost a decade. Burke got fired there for a lot of understandable reasons, he is more concerned about his image in the press than the team, players he is representing. I'm not a fan of him (think he is arrogant and a showman) but I give credit where its due.


We may also differ in our expectations of what a fourth line should be/provide. Personally I would want them to be knuckleheads, big mammoths (Macintyre, McGrattan, Scottlike..) and as tough as they come preferable 3 enforcers in order to keep the Cookes, Cowens!!!! and Neils of this league in check and honest. The benefits are a very cheap serious 4 line other teams will fear AND more importantly more money for your more important top 9. So in this case yes, I do agree with Burkie.


Mark my words the Kesler situation will turn out to become Luongo #2, Gillis (again) tried to played GMs against each other and lost. Now he has to use his old "we didn't get serious offers" BS in order to save face. Yesterday would have been the day to trade Kesler his value will never be as high Gillis simply blew it.


I would give Holland credit, if Nyquist would have started the season with the Wings the youth and Dekeyser (who thanks god wanted to be a Red Wing) saved his ass last season. Saying the kids are NOW the answer is nice but why trade away our best center prospect? This just doesn't make sense to me. At least to me the streak is not more important than the longterm future and if the youth is used as assets package them and fix the damn defense.


Trust me when I say this, I want this franchise to be a cup contender every single year but I also know the reality and the reality is this team is getting up their in age quickly with that more and more injuries will happen. This is also the reason, why I think better (lower) draft picks are so important at some point we need to replace two superstar centers :(

#2491706 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by frankgrimes on 06 March 2014 - 02:11 PM

Agree with everything you've said,but we're talking about Ken the overripe master who threw kid under the bus after 40 AHL games while playing top 6 minutes for the Griffins.


Understand his position.He had to overpay to help the Wings,but it's not fair to criticize kid's and Blashill's work just to justify himself in this trade.


Like I said for me its not about Legwand I like him but I'm getting sick of Holland and his mojo:

- we are only making hockey deals --> this was highway robbery by Poile so the opposite from a hockeydeal

- throwing kids under the bus to make himself look better or like a genius for no good reason

- says you can't fix one of the teams biggest problems toughness, grit well Burke, Mactavish fixed it within weeks

- he now likes our youth and what is he doing ? Trades away our best center prospect yeah Jarnkrok needs to bulk up and put on some serious muscle but the kid is 20 plenty of time to do that


Still wanna get rid of the kid? Fine package him for some much needed defensive help you know someone like Ehrhoff, Myers or use Vancouvers firesale to your advantage a get a guy like Hamhuis or Bieksa (maybe both) here.


This is not the mastermind we are used to. Between 2009 and 2014 something has changed. Thanks for all the great work Holland but now I'm wishing you would have retired with Lidström and made room for another guy.

#2491542 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by frankgrimes on 06 March 2014 - 12:30 AM

I love Legwand, I'm just concerned about the moves Holland continues to make.


Same here nothing against Legwand. This has to do with Holland and his mistakes adding up extremely quicky and for sure the uncertainty of our future past Z and Pasha.


as for putting on weight well I know exactly what you are talking about I had to work my butt off in the gym and just couldn't put on weight ( = adding muscles) without taking some very good Whey gainers, creatin and other stuff. I'm also a bit taller so putting on weight takes even more time but these are professional athletes they have access to stuff we'll never get so I think putting on weight should be easier for them.

#2491529 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by frankgrimes on 06 March 2014 - 12:02 AM

I think the Holland bubble has burst he is no longer one of the best GM's in the NHL, the cap has taken a lot of steam out of his sails. I think it's time to create a new position, promote him, and get some fresh blood into the organization by hiring a new GM.


Yeah I mean move up and become vice president of hockey operations, let the Captain, Lombardi, Shero or Chiarelli take over for him.

#2491528 Ken Holland's Moves From 2009-2014

Posted by frankgrimes on 06 March 2014 - 12:00 AM


Clarkson sucks. He has no hockey sense, he's been suspended twice since becoming a Leaf, and his contract is nightmarish. (And yes, I realize I'm the same guy who wouldn't mind having Chris Stewart on our team. But, see, Chris Stewart can actually produce.) Weiss is a better player, he's just been hit with injuries.


Well in hindsight neither of the two is a good signing so far, that's for sure. Chris Stewart didn't get along with Hitchcock him and Babs would absolutely hate each other after two weeks tops so I understand not going after him. Although for a franchise with so much resources it's a bit of a shame that we can't get any superstars to sign here or at least stars and sorry that's on Holland.

#2491519 3/6 GDT: Avs 3 at Red Wings 2 (OT) Sorry Nick.

Posted by frankgrimes on 05 March 2014 - 11:48 PM

So very well deserved bummer to not see the Ilitch family attending this great ceremony. The Captains ceremony set the bar incredible high St. Nick deserves the same. Man I for sure will shed a tear one of the last reminders of the best hockeyera ever. God wish I could be 2002 all over again.

#2490669 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by frankgrimes on 05 March 2014 - 03:50 PM

Jarnkrok gone. Unfreaking real. For a damn rental. 


Please be a fake source please you don't give up Jarnkrok for a freaking rental named Legwand nope

#2488965 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by frankgrimes on 03 March 2014 - 09:53 PM


He's already got a second Luongo situation... with Torts not starting him in the outdoor game...


So really, he wants an additional headache on top of the headache his coach created for him.


So true, I feel horrible for Luongo such a great goaltender and classact with the way he is handling all of that. Wonder at what point Aquilani is saying enough with this and fire him.


Man if Shero is really offering Sutter, Pouiliot a first and third and Gillis declines then just wow..

#2488957 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by frankgrimes on 03 March 2014 - 09:21 PM

I don't see it that way at all. With Kesler, they are even bigger contenders every year for the next 5-7 -8 yrs. they're in the middle of a era right now, they've got to capitalize on. It, just like we should be capitalizing on the Datsyuk Zetterberg era instead of putting them with Bert and Abby.


Their top 6 would be tremendous but guess what if they are running into teams like the Blues, Kings, Bruins or any team with a strong defensive concept things won't end well for Pittsburgh again. It has been proven time and time again defense wins championships.


Giving away their best offensive and defensive prospects + a first for a guy who will be an UFA after this year and for sure asking for a raise? If I'm Shero I'd rather look at at the Schenn brothers to bolster the D and O. For his size Kesler is also a big diver and a somewhat primadonna.


Just listened to the Insiders and wow Gillis is insane if he doesn't come down on his asking price. Maybe he wants a second Luongo situation..

#2488949 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by frankgrimes on 03 March 2014 - 08:51 PM

God please let Shero win it and overpay for him. The Pens are really drying out their future giving away top prospects and firsts like it's a candy bar Who needs defense anyways...Hell yeah to Scott he is a tough customer and will fight everyone not his fault that Nolan is such an idiot who won't let him fight. I am watching the Leafs right now and Columbus is taking runs at Reimer...good job nor having the bash brothers in the lineup...