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#2445015 Sabres' Kaleta suspended 10 games.

Posted by frankgrimes on 16 October 2013 - 03:10 PM

Kaleta to me is almost in the same category as Cooke, Torres the book needed to be thrown on him. he is going to accept it www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=434292

#2442683 Will young talent ever speak out against Wings philosophy?

Posted by frankgrimes on 08 October 2013 - 02:34 PM

Sure a player like Crosby is the exception but at some point these guys deserve a real chance. I agree with you the DetroitRedWings for now aren't desperate enough to inject youth, which could backfire. Teams can get away with making their young guns working extra hard if they are extremely talented but if not changes are you become the next Calgary Flames. maybe the front office has become to complacent with some veterans who knows but the fact is, Tatar and Nyquist deserve a real chance otherwise they might move on and I wouldn't blame them one bit for doing so.
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#2442483 Steve Yzerman wants Game Misconduct penalties for fighting

Posted by frankgrimes on 07 October 2013 - 12:52 AM

I prefer to be called a 'knuckle dragger' - thank you very much!

Haha, I think I got it right the first time.  Knuckle draggers are the guys you're advocating keeping on hockey teams. 

Sorry for wanting the young guys and star players to be safe and comfortable outthere. I'd rather be a knuckle dragger, past romanizer than someone who is okay, with watering down the game even more so it becomes soccer or dancing on ice someday.

#2442479 Devils sign Brunner 2 yrs. $2.5 million AAV

Posted by frankgrimes on 07 October 2013 - 12:30 AM

Like I have said before I wish him well, he doesn't owe the DetroitRedWings anything nor do they. That being said I was one of the few people who wanted him back, his scoring-touch would have helped this team out.

#2442469 10/5 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Bruins 4

Posted by frankgrimes on 06 October 2013 - 10:21 PM

Forget about Tatar :( Babcock was quoted saying he was looking for more and that's why Tatar played, but he didn't get it from him...Personally I thought he was one of the better players. Makes you question, what Tatar has to do in order to become a regular on this team same for Nyquist? If you have an elite team and almost every position is helt by better players, I would understand it but this is certainly not the case here. Some veterans on this team are just taking roster spots away from future players. Reading the Brunner thread is funny, the DetroitRedWings could need a guy like him. i also thought the problem lays on the Wing not the Center position, when you have two guys like Z and Pasha you better surround them with quality wingers.

#2442034 Steve Yzerman wants Game Misconduct penalties for fighting

Posted by frankgrimes on 05 October 2013 - 03:34 AM

No hip checks???

Really is that how you see things?


A cup winning team is boring?????


You are an all or nothing type of guy/gal I am assuming.


And you realize Yzerman is not asking for fighting to be abolished? He is asking for stiffer penalties.


But hey who cares if getting punched in the head led to players killing themselves as long as you are entertained.

And if Athletes are so willing to accept the dangers why are there class action suits in the NFL and NCAA because the leagues did not do enough to prevent long term damage from concussions?


Yes that is how I see things. Hip checks are a great thing - like pointed out by F Michael - if they are done right.  Yzerman is asking for something that could be the first step and a stupid step!


Maybe just maybe if these guys would also be appreciated by the stupid media and some of the anti-fighting crowd their lifes would be easier? These guys are having the toughest job in the NHL and other than some fans, teammates and coaches they are only reading/hearing how useless they are and that they don't belong to the NHL how about that crap/bs? What happened to Rypien and Belak is horrible but at the end  It's not about me or anyone else being entertained, it's about players feeling safe with these guys on the ice, it's about on ice policy and clean up your game or someone is going to come to you. You think a guy like Lucic is trying to run Miller again with John Scott on the Sabres roster? I highly doubt it.


If Lucic runs Howard tonight he has - and will answer - to Tootoo big deal Tootoo has no chance against him, would we have a guy like say Colton Orr he wouldn't even be thinking about that possibility.


Personally couldn't care less what other leagues are doing, this is hockey a different sport the NFL could fold and I wouldn't care so let them do whatever.

#2441538 Steve Yzerman wants Game Misconduct penalties for fighting

Posted by frankgrimes on 04 October 2013 - 11:33 AM

As far as I am concerned the anti-fighting crowd and Bettman can go  watch soccer, baseball or basketball. Players are the ones who should know better than everyone else and they've already voted FOR fighting so it's here to say and I am very glad it is. Also, one has to keep in mind how the DetroitRedWings were a much bigger deal a few years ago when we've had guys like Downey, McCarty and Koccur. Yes, the DetroitRedWings were more skilled too but those guys are also great locker-room guys and people other players are feeling better with.


If everything is in the name of player safety and enforcers are providing that everything should be fine.


This stupid league led by an undersized new york based *******, who has no clue about the game is more and more going the way of becoming soccer on ice and yet there are people who are ok with that. The nonsense will only stop once this game has been destroyed once and for all.


I'd rather see no NHL, than an even more dumbed down product (aren't failed franchises, no hipchecks and less hitting enough of a dumbed down)? For the 8 ,3 million a year waste of human being not it seems...when will the owners wake up and kick this guy out of the league.


I am glad, there are teams like the Leafs who are tough, skilled and not getting pushed around easily. I love our rivalry with them but there fourth line should be something other teams should want to recreate too. With guys like Devane, Broll  in the minors they can soon ice even a third line from hell...and that's impressive.


Also the stupid Blackhawks are a freaking boring team to watch, rather see the Blues or Kings style.

#2441411 Patrick Roy goes crazy on Bruce Boudreau

Posted by frankgrimes on 03 October 2013 - 06:31 PM

Funny smashing someone's face.into the Plexiglasses gets you a 2.500 fine but shoving a buckle is 10.000 just stupid.

funny how the Disneyclub backed down after Roy sent out Bordelaeu and McLeod

#2441252 Steve Yzerman wants Game Misconduct penalties for fighting

Posted by frankgrimes on 03 October 2013 - 01:37 AM

I'm puzzled by people mentioning the Draper/Lemiuex and Lidstrom/Laperrierre hits.  On both occasions we had fighters on the team., on both occasions they did nothing to prevent the hit occuring.  No point circle jerking over Downey dropping the gloves when Lidstrom is already out injured.  Clearly Downey failed as an enforcer.
Lemiuex was a dirty SOB his entire career and enforcers did nothing to stop his cheap-shotting.

Not true at all, it was a bounding moment for the whole team. Downeys job was to take care off business after the incident and he did a damn got job, that is wy enforcers are needed. Rats should have to answer for their crap ON THE ice if suspensions are coming on top of that fine.

#2440664 Steve Yzerman wants Game Misconduct penalties for fighting

Posted by frankgrimes on 02 October 2013 - 06:06 PM

It's not watering down the game though. Hitting is part of the game, fighting is not. It is ancillary and unnecessary. The GAME stops when two guys start fighting. Haroldnepsts said it, removing fighting would not have major effect on the game itself.


It wouldn't? Guys like Kaleta (nice to meet him tonight without an enforcer...), Cooke, Torres and other over the line rats would have a field day with younger and star players because they won't have to answer to qualityguys like Orr, McGrattan, MacIntyre, McLaren, Engelland or Thornton or Scott.


Like I said if people hate fighting that much, there are other sports to watch..Yes hitting is part of the game and that's why this stupid front-office and the department for players safety has been to remove it from the game, with ridiculous rules.

#2440658 Steve Yzerman wants Game Misconduct penalties for fighting

Posted by frankgrimes on 02 October 2013 - 05:55 PM

I agree that there are times to fight (someone throws a cheap elbow in a check, some drives hard into a goal, or some other unsportsmanlike act that requires retaliation) but I agree with #19 there should be a stiffer penalty than just a 5 min major.  I don't know if it's a game misconduct automatically, but the NHL should definitely track those players that are prone to fighting and institute a progressive suspension criteria. Get the goons out of the game, eliminate stupid injuries, protect the stars, make the game better.


I love this... Cherry is a fricken idiot.


Cherry has seen and probably played more hockey than 90 % of this planet he knows what he is talking about and I am glad there are people like him, who don't tolerate the watering down of this great game.

#2440649 Steve Yzerman wants Game Misconduct penalties for fighting

Posted by frankgrimes on 02 October 2013 - 05:33 PM

Hockey is a dangerous, violent and sometimes hard to watch - i.e. Parros accident - but if people can't deal with that go watch soccer, baseball or basketball. Nobody is forcing these guys to fight they both are agreeing and they know exactly the risks and benefits of it.


The Captain will always be THE captain but in this case I have to respectfully disagree with him. I'd stop watching the NHL if they ever ban fighting and destroy the game even more than it already is. Maybe he has forgotten how players like McCarty, Downey and Koccur prevented other guys from taking runs at him and step over the line...

#2440238 Baertschi and Zibanejad thrown under the bus publically

Posted by frankgrimes on 01 October 2013 - 05:00 PM

Just did some usual tsn video searches and found out, that Muray has thrown Zibanejad under the bus stating he wasn't impressed with his camp and therefore sent him down. I am very sure this has nothing to do with Melynk being cheap and rather pay 70k instead of 925k for a rookie... Burke - who isn't even the GM - stated that he isn't thrilled with Baertschi , moaning about his lack of "playing all 3 zones" and compete level... If this is the way canadian teams are dealing with their prospects it doesn't come as a surprise that some people don't want to play there. I mean, demote the guys and give them the reasons for doing so internally but going public with this crap and destroying their confidence and maybe the relationship is just wrong. sent from a mobile device autocorrections errors are possible!

#2439710 What former Red Wing would u want to meet?

Posted by frankgrimes on 28 September 2013 - 10:32 PM

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#2439051 Wings to Keep Tootoo?

Posted by frankgrimes on 25 September 2013 - 09:53 PM

Ok, I see your point but.... Ottawa vs.NYR in the 2012 playoffs and Boyle takes liberties with Karlsson. Alfredsson blows a gasket and cross checks Rinaldo to the face. None of these are enforcers. Carkner takes Boyle to school in an epic beatdown. Everything calms down and we get back to hockey and the Sens lose in 7. Ottawa still lost. Carkner never fought another enforcer in that series and left as a UFA to fade into hockey's wilderness.
How did Carkner change the outcome of that series other than making the highlights at 11pm? Ottawa was still beaten by skill.

It's false to assume that enforcers are there to change the outcome of a game, that's what guys like Sidney, Pavel or Suter are for. Enforcers are on the ice to protect the young and star players. Look at the Islanders teams.tried to bully them till they have had enough and took the Penguins to school score and fightingwise! Since then the Pens are bringing more of a clean game against the Isles and the rest of the league took notice.

I'd also like to add that the Send could ice a pretty tough team if you guys are.dressing Kassian, Neil and Carkner that's a very good 3 punch trio.

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