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#2684074 Mrazek avoids arbitration... signs 2 year deal

Posted by poel on 27 July 2016 - 04:18 PM

He only went to arbitration because Mrazek wanted like $5 million. Holland requesting arbitration brought Mrazek back down to earth. Holland gets full credit on this one to be honest. We were the only team in the league to file arbitration AGAINST a player rather than the usual players filing against the team. 


We did well. Not to mention Mrazek will be an RFA after this contract is up too. This is a perfect win-win for us. 


Down to earth? Andersen got 5 millions longterm. Mrazek > Andersen. And it's not even close. Mrazek was better last season despite Andersen playing behind the better team and a far better defense. Mrazek also proved to be a clutch player. Always was at his best in the playoffs. Andersen hardly stops anything in the postseason.


We're talking about pure goodwill from a player probably wanting to help the organization and keeping a good relationship with the management. He might even saved Holland's job by accepting 4. Would have been tough to fit Mrazek in at 5 millions. 


Inconsistency is no reason to lowball Mrazek at all. He clearly wasn't himself after that Schenn attack. Was reportedly ill right after and hardly stopped a puck the following four games he played. Call me whatever you want but I immediately felt that something was wrong with him after the incident. Either him or the club probably just didn't want to reveal the reason behind it all. What's for sure is that he got misused at that time. Should have given a rest. He definitely lost his way there. 






In the future Holland better stops wasting money for useless or average players. We got several terrible contracts we'll probably never get out of (Nielsen, Helm, Green, Nyquist, Ericsson, Howard). I also think that Glendening and Ericsson earn too much for what they bring to the table. How things go at the moment maybe even the Zetterberg contract will come back to hurt us. It's 1 to 12 for Holland.

#2680453 Other than Stamkos, which FA forward do you want?

Posted by poel on 29 June 2016 - 11:53 PM

If Staal is available for max 2 years at around 5 millions each I'll be ok with him. He's still easily a top6 centerman and will be for 2 more years at least. Nielsen and Backes aren't top6 centers even though they at times played in this role. We need pure scoring to replace the magic man. Backes and Nielsen aren't good enough and want long term deals, too.
Shipachev would be interesting though. I'd love to see the guy play for the wings. By far the best FA-Center. If we miss out on him I'd still suggest to trade for Hanzal.

#2679555 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by poel on 26 June 2016 - 10:57 AM

I agree. If Detroit believed this guy was a franchise defenseman, they would never trade the pick away just to get rid of Datsyuk's contract. They had other offers on the table and other avenues they could have explored. My belief is they weren't high on Chychrun and used his hype to their advantage. Time will tell how good he is but I don't think he was as high on our draft board as other teams.


Or maybe Holland thought that the guy we got is pretty close to Chychrun and that the draft was pretty deep upfront. At least Holland already told Chayka ahead of the draft that he'd be willing to trade his pick. 


I also agree that it's not sure we would have picked Chychrun but it would have been the obvious choice. And, that's for sure, the deal only happened because Chychrun was still available at 16. Chychrun was the guy the Yotes wanted. If he's not available at 16 there's no Datsyuk-deal. We got a little lucky there.

#2679528 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by poel on 25 June 2016 - 08:19 PM

I think we'll add two forwards. Stamkos and then a supporting player. I'm losing hope in a defenseman, tough. I guess we could tackle that next year. Baby steps.


If we're able to lose Ericsson I'd be ok to play the kids. With Ericsson I'd be concerned. I never really liked him but he was always solid. Last season he was beyond terrible. I'd rather play Ouellet or Smith. 

To me it's not written in stone that there's no d-man available though. Minnesota wants wingers for a defender. I don't want Spurgeon but I think they're more thinking about Scandella, Brodin or Dumba anyway. Brodin is a rocksolid workhorse similar to DeKeyser, Scandella is a typical stay at home defenseman with a big shot. Dumba still has to learn a lot but he has tons of skill. Sky's the limit for him...and he's a righty. I'd take them all. Problem probably is that Holland doesn't have the balls to give up something significant in a trade. For all three of them I'd happily trade away Nyquist, Tatar plus pick or prospect. 

Same situation in Anaheim who wants wingers or cap for forwards and therefore seems willing to give away Fowler.

Holland should also keep an eye on Trouba. If it's true that he's demanding a lot of money or might doesn't want to resign at all Holland has to have an offersheet ready. Two Michigan top defenders might be available...Holland better doesn't miss out on them if there's the slightest chance...

#2679273 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by poel on 24 June 2016 - 10:33 PM


Real money vs no money. Even if he were on LTIR for Arizona they would have to pay him 1.1 million. With Pavs contract they don't pay any real money. 


Sure. I forgot that you have to pay LTIR's. Makes sense now....

#2678551 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by poel on 21 June 2016 - 07:13 PM

All it means is that when he's on the ice the team directs more shots at the opposing net than they do if someone else is on the ice. In this respect the stats are quantifiably true. Maybe your perception is skewed. Either way I tend to put more faith in math than I do your eyeball test. But that's just me.
What's more, when you break down his WOWY stats you see that every individual he plays with directs more shots on net than if he weren't playing with them. Its pretty iron clad.


Like Babcock said a while ago...stats are nice to know but at the end of the day you judge by what you see...

Tatar was brutal recently...hard not to see that. In his rookie season he was a lot better, played with intensitiy. Last season he scored a few point but at the same time he was lazy and a turnover machine.

#2668248 ECQF Game 1 GTD: Red Wings at Tampa Bay Lightning, 7:00 ET

Posted by poel on 13 April 2016 - 08:47 PM

WHY ON EARTH would you still play Helm with 4min to go? Really, Blash? He's been terrible for years and 2 of 3 Tampa scored because of him...

#2668226 ECQF Game 1 GTD: Red Wings at Tampa Bay Lightning, 7:00 ET

Posted by poel on 13 April 2016 - 08:42 PM

Abdelkader's stupidity is annoying.  He hurts this team too much.  


If Abdelkader is stupid, then what's Helm, Nyquist, Tatar or Andersson? C'mon. Abdelkader scored a goal and has drawn a penalty already. At least he sticks up for himself and doesn't just take Drouin's crap.

#2534578 Ice Bucket ALS Challenge: Bettman edition

Posted by poel on 19 August 2014 - 06:02 PM



Brunner nominated Pavel :lol:

#2531877 Mike Green to Wings?

Posted by poel on 12 July 2014 - 09:35 PM

They have a combined four years on the job. Stevie's team went to the conference final in that span and Tampa Bay might be the favorite in the East heading into next season. Nill got Dallas into the playoffs in the West and has done a great job adding two huge pieces through trades already.

Holland just continues to make lateral moves since those two have left and the Red Wings have no direction under his leadership. Too bad Holland didn't stick to his word and retire when Nick did, so Nill would have gotten the GM job in Detroit before leaving.



As much as I like Holland because what he's done for the Franchise...i have to agree at this point. He made a lot of mistakes over the last years. He's not willing to take risks. Pav and Z will not play forever. He absolutely missed the opportunity to give the youth a chance and add the missing pieces to form a team that can make a push for the cup...

Franchise players are not cheap and they're hard to get. Big trades are always a risk. To trust young players by giving them fixed roster spots is also a risk. But just by resigning and overpaying your useless veterans, you probably won't be able to win anything...

#2405734 What does Babs do?

Posted by poel on 15 May 2013 - 10:25 PM

Well, Mr. Babcock, thank you very much for loosin game 1 one of this series.

Wings won twice against the ducks by spreading the offense. There's just no reason to change anythin und put Z and Pav together. Wings are very easy to control with a lineup like this.

If we are able to create offense over at least three lines it should be no problem to defeat the ducks.


Wrote this long time ago. Pav and Z don't work anymore. Wings won game 7 because Babcock separated them. Today again. Chicago dominated the game in the 3rd period because Babcock changed the lines.


Will be interesting to see what Babcock plans. Maybe it's a good idea to bring in Tootoo and add some energy.

#2387474 Red Wings record with/without Quincey

Posted by poel on 21 April 2013 - 07:44 PM

Not that I liked the trade for Quincey, but have you actually watched any games that Q has played in the second half of this season? He isn't the reason the team is losing.


He's one of the reasons why Wings PP doesn't work and he's one of the reasons why Wings don't score.

#2383613 Red Wings lack offensive creativity

Posted by poel on 12 April 2013 - 08:03 AM

This is all because Babs is switching the lines so bad.

If we wanna make the playoffs it's the time to put some goal scorers into the bottom six. Bring in some quality instead of size und put together what belongs together. Plus we are in need of skillful defensemen. Makes no sense to let play some lazy guys like Ericsson or Quincey. Especially on the PP:



Tatar, Datsjuk, Franzen

Nyquist, Zetterberg, Brunner

Cleary, Filppula, Abdelkader

Miller, Emmerton, Eaves


Kronwall, Lashoff

Smith, Kindl

DeKeyser, White



- Kronwall and Lash already played together very successfully. Lash is a very good defender and would allow Kronwall to create some offense. Plus he moves the puck a lot better than simply sweepers like Colaiacovo, Ericsson or Quincey.


- Zetterberg and Brunner are not scoring on 5vs5 since they were separated by Babs. Think Nyquist could be a good addition because he worked well with Brunner in 1,2 games.


- Tatar is a young guy but has the quickest hands (after Datsjuk and Brunner) of the whole roster. He's a natural born goalscorer and should get a call up very immediately. Wanna see him paired with Datsjuk and Franzen. Franzen can take Abby's job and drive hard to the net. He has the body and he's useless if he's just standin arround.


- Filppula is not scoring altough he's playing in the bottom six all the time. Can't accept that anymore. Maybe he would feel confident as 3rd line center along with some hard working guys who can create a lot of space for him.



So I'm pretty sure that reunite what worked and put together what belongs together would be the key...