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  2. arag

    2020 Offseason

    The real reason Yzerman acquired Staal. To do just that.
  3. kipwinger

    2020 Offseason

    I don't hate the trade or anything, but I always love these stories about how good a person some player is, but they deliberately downplay how bad they suck as a player. Regardless of how good this dude is supposed to be in the locker room, he sucks. He's WAY past his usefulness. I'm happy with the 2nd rounder, but let's not kid ourselves, he's not any better than an Ericsson or a Daley. Filppula/Nemeth = Gagner/Staal. It's the same thing. Just plugging holes while obviously tanking. Pretty sure the "culture" of the team was not worse off in the hands of Filppula, Helm, Abby, Ericsson, and Daley (who have all won Cups) and Green, Nemeth, Dekeyer (who are all quality veterans) than it will be in the hands of Staal and Gagner, guys who have collectively won jack s*** in the NHL.
  4. xault

    2020 Offseason

    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2020/09/26/red-wings-acquire-defenseman-marc-staal-draft-pick-future-considerations/3551732001/ Good Stuff.
  5. kipwinger

    2020 Draft Thread

    Look, I can't speak for Mackel but I do think that he's not entirely wrong. Imagine if, as is the case, Byfield and Stutzle were hyped all year long getting comparisons to guys like Kopitar and Kane. And then imagine one of those guys falling to you and him not being anything close to a Kopitar or Kane. That's the story with Zadina. There were times in his draft year when people were genuinely debating whether he was a better player than Svechnikov. It seems absured now, but it actually happened. And then he fell, we got him thinking he was a Svechnikov level talent, and he simply isn't. So it's not unreasonable to think that the system that built this kid up (and into a "star" in the making) has failed fans of teams like the Red Wings. And I don't think it's unreasonable for guys like Mackel to think, "this isn't what we were told we were getting. This guy sucks.".
  6. The 91 of Ryans

    2020 Draft Thread

    Makel actually looks at Zadina's numbers. Thinks. Ah. I got it! Injuries!!! THAT's why he's a bust now. It was injuries all along.
  7. F.Michael

    2020 Offseason

    It’s not so much that he’d be ‘bad’ for the Red Wings - it’s just that he’s always benefited by having a good defensive partner, and a better group of players as a whole. I could see his numbers drop like what we had seen with Mike Green. I’d rather see Grand Master Y pass on Krug.
  8. nyqvististhefuture

    2020 Draft Thread

    Yes i thought smith was the next lidstrom who’s the f***s this ham
  9. The 91 of Ryans

    2020 Draft Thread

    The irony here is palpable
  10. CatBoyRossi

    2020 Draft Thread

    He thought brendan smith was the next lidstrom. Hes basically a joke poster.
  11. Neomaxizoomdweebie

    2020 Offseason

    Because Markstrom will not be any better in his 30s than Howard was. Probably worse. But if someone is so blinded by the "anyone but Howard" rhetoric, then they'll think ANYTHING is better. It isn't. Overpaying for a goalie, just because he isn't Howard, is dumb.
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  13. nyqvististhefuture

    2020 Draft Thread

    Ha , my experience is im a douchebag cause i dont agree with ppl here or the experts ... how dare i have my own opinion? Anyways i dont care im a douchebag , zadina will be good ... see i dont agree with you ... thus le douchebag
  14. mackel

    2020 Draft Thread

    @nyqvististhefuture, he's a douchbag who can't imagine people may not share his point of view... that's been my experience
  15. nyqvististhefuture

    2020 Draft Thread

    Your opinion doesnt matter to me , did you understand that? Good , enjoy the draft
  16. krsmith17

    2020 Draft Thread

    LOL another angry individual...
  17. mackel

    2020 Draft Thread

    Stop mentioning me every time you want to criticize someone. Also, there is literally nothing pointing in the opposite direction... the injuries are stacking up faster than goals for ole Zagina. #GFYkrsmith17
  18. krsmith17

    2020 Draft Thread

    And there's the illiterate part again... Try being less angry, learn to read and understand what people are saying... comprehension seems to be very difficult for you...
  19. nyqvististhefuture

    2020 Draft Thread

    Yes and raymond wont be better than those guys cause krsmith17 says listen to stevie and our scouts ok enjoy the draft, dont go for a certain player ... forget stutzle and just stfu and sit back and just wait for stevie to pick cause your a jackass who’s opinion doesnt count later
  20. krsmith17

    2020 Draft Thread

    LOL you're the one that inserted your dumb comment about how you won't be watching because of the Perfetti coverage they will shove down our throats... and will instead watch football... I don't give a s*** if you watch or not. Just suggesting that you have more of an open mind. You should try it... I also never said anything about Yzerman always being right, but I guarantee he knows more about every single one of the players in the top 10, than all of us jackasses combined. But yeah, Perfetti and Rossi will definitely be draft busts because nyquististhefuture said so... Almost as ridiculous as mackel calling Zadina a bust in every thread, despite everything pointing the opposite direction... Now that's a better analogy.
  21. krsmith17

    2020 Offseason

    Here is your answer. This is all I was getting at. Markstrom is a better option than Howard going forward. Why does any of this matter? Why do we care if Howard was better in his 20's or even early 30's? All that matters is who is going to be better going forward, and you answered that question above... I've already said that I'd prefer a cheaper option. It's not about Markstrom vs the rest of the options though. It's about Howard vs the rest of the options. And just about any other option is better than Howard at this point in his career, and going forward.
  22. nyqvististhefuture

    2020 Draft Thread

    K
  23. Neomaxizoomdweebie

    2020 Draft Thread

    Pretty sure that in any random draft that a pro GM and pro scouts will get a lot more right than you do. Just cuz I get a few strikes at the bowling alley, doesnt make me a better bowler than the professionals.
  24. nyqvististhefuture

    2020 Offseason

    We’ll have to eat salary , and we’ll be lucky to get anything . He’s a shell of the player he use to be and is a turnover machine and costs alot of goals . Fans will quickly turn on him As for the trade itself at 5,7 cap hit id have loved to get a 1st and i seen alot of ranger fans saying theyd have traded a 1st to be rid of him . Whatever its a 2nd ... would have liked one this year cause its a deep draft or the 2022 draft. Whatever its the 2021 draft , im hoping we’ll move it and 45th pick to jump into the 25-30 range and target someone they like who drops (maybe a peterka,khusnutdinov,foerster type if we’re lucky) As i think when the deadline comes and we move nemeth and maybe a few more pieces we might be able to land another 2nd or two so might as well try and use them to move up Id say use one to get georgiev but i suspect if that was an option we would have got georgiev now with staal .... umm maybe we’ll be picking askarov after all
  25. Neomaxizoomdweebie

    2020 Offseason

    Howard was better at age 25 thru 30 than Markstrom, who is now 30. Howard had a down year. Could be due to age, maybe not. Do I predict Markstrom's numbers to be better than Howard's from here on out? Yes. Because Howard is approaching 40 and Markstrom is just reaching his 30s. Do I expect Markstrom's numbers to be better in his 30s than Jimmy's was? No. Why would I? If Jimmy was a better goalie in his 20s than Markstrom, then I expect Jimmy is a better goalie in his 30s than Markstrom will be. His decline is inevitable too. It doesnt require a crystal ball to use common sense. Therefore paying Markstrom $6 million is ridiculous. He's not worth that, and it's not smart to do it just because "he's not Jimmy". But some of the Howard haters think that anything is better than Jimmy, even if it's an overpayment. Also, Markstrom's numbers haven't been much better than Bernier's but somehow paying him almost double Bernie's salary makes sense?
  26. nyqvististhefuture

    2020 Offseason

    Adding krug will be a mistake once he starts hitting 34-38 ... i know we suck and we’re desperate for good players but we also cant f*** it up cause we’re desperate Cholowski is looking to be expendable and sadly on his way out soon regardless (hes been a dissapointment,but at 22 i havent given up on him same as svech) Id like podkolzin but dont know if that gets it done
  27. nyqvististhefuture

    2020 Draft Thread

    Wtf do you care if i watch something or not? I dont give a s*** that you watch the view every day with your nan , to each his own there you go again with your yzerman and scouts ... ill let you in on a little secret precious yzerman and his scouts wont always get theyre picks right .. am i a pro? No , but once in a while nobodies like me will get a few right . Everyone here knows by now i wanted brannstrom over rasmussen and their careers are just about to begin but id pretty much still take him over what the “pro’s” picked you can love yzerman but you can have your own opinion and not agree with every f***en move he’ll ever make ... enjoy the draft
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