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Z basically says Bettman should be fired
frankgrimes and one other reacted to Hockeytown0001 for a post in a topic
I agree with Z. -
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Ryan Suter pissed off
Z Winged Dangler and one other reacted to martinezsvsu for a post in a topic
im sure parise rubbed his back, calmed him down, and tucked him in -
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What would your proposal be?
frankgrimes reacted to stevkrause for a post in a topic
4 step plan proposal: 1. Fire Bettman 2. Hire a real commissioner who has the balls to stand up to the owners and do what's best for the league 3. Change the bulls*** BOG ruling back to a majority vote system by the owners instead of only needing 8 teams to pass, and disallow league owned teams from voting 4. Let the rest sort itself out once the cancer is removed Put this in place and we'll be playing hockey again by mid November... -
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[Retired] Official Lockout Thread
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The players are willing to do that -
1 pointDon't make up numbers and use them as if they were facts. The league made $126.5M in 2010-11. About 4% of revenue. We don't know what the profit was last year, since Forbes doesn't have those numbers yet. (However, the numbers we do know, and growth trends for those we don't know, suggest it's very possible the league may have turned record profits last year.) Secondly, the average purchase price for an NHL team was $139M. Average ownership length is 14 years. Average team value as of last November is $240M, for an appreciation average of $101M. Average profit for the first 6 years of the prior CBA, plus the last year of the CBA before that was $24.5M. Even if we assume profits for last year of only $110M, it brings that to $28.2. Profits or losses from '98-99 through '02-03 aren't available, but considering the league could have, but didn't (in fact, the league agreed to extend that deal 4 years beyond it's original end), open negotiations for a new CBA before each of those years it's hard to imagine any losses were significant. We'll just say the league broke even over that span. So in total profits, income plus appreciation, the average owner has seen pretty close to (and possibly more than) a 100% return on investment minus whatever was lost in '04-05. Average annual ROI is probably at least 6%, and that's even with losing an entire season. Average annual return on revenue over the life of the last CBA is likely around 5%. And that was with a players' share of 54-57%. All the players' proposals have been less than that. So you can continue to make up "facts", act like owners can't make any money, etc...but saying it doesn't make it true. Even at 57%, the league as a whole does decent. At 53-54%, the league as a whole would be doing better than the vast majority of industries in the US. The problem in the league is not player salaries, nor player contract rights. The problem is the revenue disparity. That is an issue the owners need to address among themselves. The players have offered to slow (almost stagnate) their salary growth for a time to help. The owners should be saying 'thank you'. In regards to the bolded section, it simply isn't possible to take an immediate pay cut and honor every contract at the same time. They can take a relative cut in the future, and they have already offered to do so. But the owners are demanding both an immediate cut, and a larger relative cut in the future. Neither is justified by the numbers. And here's something for the owners to think about, if they're already worried about their public image: Imagine how much worse it will be if we're still locked out in a month, and the Forbes numbers do come out showing record profits.
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Ryan Suter pissed off
Wing Across The Pond reacted to RippedOnNitro for a post in a topic
Did he forget the $10M signing fee which is not subject to future cba's already...lol -
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Missing Wings This Fall (anyone heard anything on Franzen yet?)
Motown4013 reacted to number9 for a post in a topic
He was going to play for Jokerit but then he got bored -
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CHL, Other Junior Leagues Look to Ban Fighting
Hockeymom1960 reacted to number9 for a post in a topic
maybe cause....uh.....it's a different culture I don't know much about Football or Rugby but if they choose not to allow fighting cool, good for them, I don't care. I just hope they keep their pansy sport to themselves and don't meddle with mine. -
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Missing Wings This Fall (anyone heard anything on Franzen yet?)
Z Winged Dangler reacted to YougotDatsyuked for a post in a topic
He has been floating around Detroit -
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Who can tell me something about the Red Wings
55fan reacted to DinoFromCN for a post in a topic
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CHL, Other Junior Leagues Look to Ban Fighting
Hockeymom1960 gave a reaction for a post in a topic
Violence in the NHL is measured and controlled by rules and penalties. If someone did something truly unsportsmanlike, and got caught, there would be repercussions. Hmm, well.... visions of Weber smashing Z's head in the boards just flew through my mind... so let me clarify and say that there should be repercussions, according to the rules. I was more entertained by hockey prior to the crack down on physical contact and clutching and grabbing. -
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CHL, Other Junior Leagues Look to Ban Fighting
Hockeymom1960 reacted to newfy for a post in a topic
Refs will generally break up any fights right away until bantam rep hockey which is about 14 years old. At that point depending on the size of the kids they can stay out. So basically once you become a teen you can choose to fight in Canada however if one guy starts beating on someone else that doesnt want to refs will jump in right away. And I actually think hockeys attitude towards fighting makes the country less violent. Kids will shake hands after a fight and theres a bunch of stories about the respect fighters have for each other and grabing a beer together after a game. I've shaken hands with plenty of guys after I fought them in hockey and Lacrosse