maltbyrocks18 0 Report post Posted September 10, 2005 Then why would he come to the Wings? your quite the optimistic fan arnt you?? as long as we get datsyuk, i believe we have not to bad of a chance at the cup this year. i believe with the new rules our depth of skill will truely show for once with out the bear hugging dats and zetts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sepster 0 Report post Posted September 10, 2005 (edited) some one from the Griff's where we have some very solid prospects in the making, where their salaries dont count against our cap. The salaries do count against the cap if the player is playing for the NHL club. They don't count if it is a two-way contract and they're playing for the farm team. as long as we get datsyuk, i believe we have not to bad of a chance at the cup this year. i believe with the new rules our depth of skill will truely show for once with out the bear hugging dats and zetts I agree, if Datsyuk comes over (and I am cautiously optomistic) than what other team could say they have the Russain Leagues MVP, Swedish Elite's leading scorer and the AHL's Best Defensivemen ON TOP of the defending Selke Trophy winner and a three-time Norris winner? Edited September 10, 2005 by Sepster Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsRdabest 0 Report post Posted September 10, 2005 no way thomas is coming back to detroit,he's going back to the leafs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted September 10, 2005 Oh you. You are an odd one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted September 10, 2005 (edited) Oh you. You are an odd one. Ditto.... That is freaky Edited September 10, 2005 by Rivalred Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naslund19 0 Report post Posted September 10, 2005 I like Thomas and all, but I just don't see the point to sign him again. I'm not so sure about this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naslund19 0 Report post Posted September 10, 2005 Oh you. You are an odd one. Hmm..Shane_Pffanes jr., anyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted September 10, 2005 Oh you. You are an odd one. Hmm..Shane_Pffanes jr., anyone? hahaha, what happened to that guy?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aeothe Kaear 0 Report post Posted September 10, 2005 I agree, if Datsyuk comes over (and I am cautiously optomistic) than what other team could say they have the Russain Leagues MVP, Swedish Elite's leading scorer and the AHL's Best Defensivemen ON TOP of the defending Selke Trophy winner and a three-time Norris winner? Nobody, but individual awards don't win Cups... just ask the last two teams we've iced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TNBT 3 Report post Posted September 10, 2005 I have nothing against Thomas, but I would rather see someone from Grand Rapids get a chance. If this was 10 years ago then yeah, lets get Thomas signed up. However, this will probably be the last or second last season where we have this veteran team of Yzerman, Shanahan, Chelios, etc. so I would rather see us bring in some of our young guys now and let them get as much experience as possible before we have to throw them in full-time in another year or two. Also, I doubt that Thomas would have signed yet. If Holland does plan on signing him, then it would be AFTER we find out what happens with Datsyuk, as that will determine how much cap space we have to work with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaKineMaui 8 Report post Posted September 10, 2005 I like Thomas and all, but I just don't see the point to sign him again. I'm not so sure about this one. I guess it would be a cost issue.....I guess? And i agree - I don't have the answer, but exactly how old can this squad afford to be.....I'd rather roll the dice on a kid from GR. Lord forbid we let a kid try and play his way into the bigs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted September 10, 2005 (edited) your quite the optimistic fan arnt you?? as long as we get datsyuk, i believe we have not to bad of a chance at the cup this year. i believe with the new rules our depth of skill will truely show for once with out the bear hugging dats and zetts. Yeh sorry for the negativity, but I doubt we will be anywhere near good enough to challenge for the Cup this season. I mean we’ve lost Datsyuk & Hull who combined for 55 goals, and also gone are handy offensive players McCarty and Whitney. From our defense we’ve lost Dandenault, Hatcher and Woolley. Our goaltending is also questionable. During the 2003/04 season the main problem we had was our speed, due mainly to our age. As this problem has clearly not been addressed, I honestly see this as a long, tough season. Edited September 10, 2005 by Aussie_Wing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maltbyrocks18 0 Report post Posted September 10, 2005 Yeh sorry for the negativity, but I doubt we will be anywhere near good enough to challenge for the Cup this season. I mean we’ve lost Datsyuk & Hull who combined for 55 goals, and also gone are handy offensive players McCarty and Whitney. From our defense we’ve lost Dandenault, Hatcher and Woolley. Our goaltending is also questionable. During the 2003/04 season the main problem we had was our speed, due mainly to our age. As this problem has clearly not been addressed, I honestly see this as a long, tough season. its alrite, i havent been to optimistic about whats been going on either to be honest. i dont see us being able to challenge for the cup AT ALL to be honest if we dont sign datsyuk. i think its at the point of the chance we have left for this season, rests in datsyuks decision this sunday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ToddDaGod 0 Report post Posted September 10, 2005 and also gone are handy offensive players McCarty and Whitney. Did you just McCarty a handy offensive player? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted September 10, 2005 Yeh sorry for the negativity, but I doubt we will be anywhere near good enough to challenge for the Cup this season. I mean we’ve lost Datsyuk & Hull who combined for 55 goals, and also gone are handy offensive players McCarty and Whitney. From our defense we’ve lost Dandenault, Hatcher and Woolley. Our goaltending is also questionable. Datsyuk will probably re-sign, defensive liability that he is. Hull is replaced by Lang (who actually had a +/- of 2 on the Washington Capitals, for chrissakes); Lang is bigger, stronger, and better defensively--he obviously doesn't have as good of a shot and isn't a floating one-timer machine, but we already have enough of those. Mac never did anything offensively. Cool Ray's slack can easily be picked up by Williams if he has a decent season (assuming he plays top line minutes, anyways), or Homer. Even Maltby and Draper could shore that one up. As long as Datsyuk signs, we will have four lines that are as good as any in the league. We won't be able to just roll them like we used to, but that might get key guys like Williams even more time to refine his game. The issue in my mind isn't the guys we will ice on opening night, but the lack of depth. We haven't been this shallow in a decade--so it'll be up to the kids to carry the old folks from time to time. Not a problem when you consider that stretch in December last year where half the Wings starting roster was out, but Datsyuk and the rest of the kids hopped the team up on their back and allowed them to dominate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted September 10, 2005 Did you just McCarty a handy offensive player? Come again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted September 10, 2005 (edited) Datsyuk will probably re-sign, defensive liability that he is. Hull is replaced by Lang (who actually had a +/- of 2 on the Washington Capitals, for chrissakes); Lang is bigger, stronger, and better defensively--he obviously doesn't have as good of a shot and isn't a floating one-timer machine, but we already have enough of those. Mac never did anything offensively. Cool Ray's slack can easily be picked up by Williams if he has a decent season (assuming he plays top line minutes, anyways), or Homer. Even Maltby and Draper could shore that one up. As long as Datsyuk signs, we will have four lines that are as good as any in the league. We won't be able to just roll them like we used to, but that might get key guys like Williams even more time to refine his game. The issue in my mind isn't the guys we will ice on opening night, but the lack of depth. We haven't been this shallow in a decade--so it'll be up to the kids to carry the old folks from time to time. Not a problem when you consider that stretch in December last year where half the Wings starting roster was out, but Datsyuk and the rest of the kids hopped the team up on their back and allowed them to dominate. Yeh that's all very well, but as I said earlier: During the 2003/04 season the main problem we had was our speed, due mainly to our age. As this problem has clearly not been addressed, I honestly see this as a long, tough season. Two words are bound to summarise our season: TOO OLD! Edited September 10, 2005 by Aussie_Wing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seth 0 Report post Posted September 24, 2005 As Im sure most of you have said already this rumor is full of BS and there is no way this is happening. More leafs propoganda. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites