LIDDYGIBBY5 1 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 I'm usually not one to complain about signings, but gimme a break. I sure as sh*t hope that this isn't true. Why waste money on him? Let a youngster from GR get some experience before you sign a player that is 7 or 8 years past the end of his prime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whoisjohngalt? 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 Maybe the Wings will invite him to tryout for the team, but i don't think there is anyway they would sign him before training camp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaolla 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 Babcock loves the guy and he is real good friends with Yzerman, but man I hope he didn't sign here I would much rather see Murray or LaCouture get a shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LidstromIsASuperhero 29 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 I don't see this happening. Following the '03-'04 season, Holland specified that Thomas and Hull would NOT be offered contracts, period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mutherpucker27 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We do not need a 42 year old on the team, no matter how sweet a player he is/was. I have no problem w/ Stumpy, but he is NOT what the team needs. By the same token, what possible reason do you guys have for screwing up the development of one of our top prospects by making him ride the pine in the NHL instead of getting top line minutes in Russia? You guys do want him to turn into a decent NHL player, right? Not going to happen if he doesn't get ice time. If Holland says he ain't ready, he ain't ready. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 If not Grigorenko, at least Matt Ellis then. He's 6'1 and well built, and could be handy on the 4th line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VladyIBELIEVE16 257 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 Please no. ^ what he said Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 By the same token, what possible reason do you guys have for screwing up the development of one of our top prospects by making him ride the pine in the NHL instead of getting top line minutes in Russia? You guys do want him to turn into a decent NHL player, right? Not going to happen if he doesn't get ice time. If Holland says he ain't ready, he ain't ready. Who says he has to 'ride the pine'? With everyone saying that Holmstrom should be a 1st or 2nd line winger this season, why shouldn't Grigorenko be? 15 minutes a night couldn't hinder his development to the extent where he wont turn into a 'decent NHL player'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaolla 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 If true hope its a two-way deal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mutherpucker27 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 Holland says Grigorenko isn't ready for the NHL and needs another year. He's the GM. I've never even seen the guy play; all I know about him is what I've heard about him. I would guess the same is true for most of the ppl on this board. Detroit's got one of the top scouting staffs and best player analysis in the league. They didn't even think he was ready to come to the rookie camp (unless I'm mistaken, I don't think he was there). I'll take their words for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VisiblyShaken 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 Who is responsible for removing the Depends undergarments after games at the Joe?? Well, their job just got uglier! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Pancake 6 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 No offense to our veterans, especially Stevie, but I really hope that this year's theme will be The Last Hurrah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRW Dominance 255 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 If true hope its a two-way deal Not gonna happen if the deal is true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diehrd 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 I hope this isn't true. I agree. Three or four years ago, absolutely but not now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManiacStan 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 Hrmmmph... That's all I can say... just... hrmmmmph. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ToddDaGod 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 No thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p_diddy_datsyuk_13 2 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 this is a good signing if it's true... thomas is a seasoned vet... who will provide depth and good leadership for all of our youth this year... as for GRIGORENKO... he would've been here one or two years ago if not for the accident... he is back to where he was before it and the wings just want to see if he will be worth the investment by allowing to see if he is capable of further evelopment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GodofHockeyStevieY19 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 Well he is a RW(which the Red Wings are desperately lacking), but damn hes definitely up there in the age department. I mean he did get released by the Wings for a reason. But If hes still got game left, then I guess im ok with it. But if hes got nothing left in the tank then this is just a waste of time and money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 this is a good signing if it's true... thomas is a seasoned vet... who will provide depth and good leadership for all of our youth this year All of our youths. And they are??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ToddDaGod 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 this is a good signing if it's true... thomas is a seasoned vet... who will provide depth and good leadership for all of our youth this year... Yzerman and Chelios provide plenty of leadership on their own, not to mention Lidstrom, Draper, and Shanahan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockeyh 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 E-Rock, SO glad I was eating while viewing your signature pictures! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 Say no to Stumpy! Williams, Ellis, so many options out there to fill up the wings. peace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 I'm just sick of people in the hockey world saying Detroit are a bunch of old farts. And they were saying this back in 2002. I was very jealous of Calgary's fast young hungry gritty team in the 04 playoffs. Please, I do not want Detroit to be old and slow any longer. I would rather miss the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YzermanZetterberg 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 Maybe Thomas is a fall back option in case the Datsyuk meeting/decision doesn't go our way on Sunday. If we are not getting Datsyuk, I could see Stumpy being part of an "offense by committee" type of situation. He would be a far cheaper option than Bondra (about 20% of what Bondra supposedly wants), and would contribute at both ends of the ice. Whether we get Datsyuk, Thomas, or Bondra, I still see us keeping a few guys from the group mentioned previously (LaCoutre, Murray, et al). If we do get Datsyuk back, however, I also have to say NO WAY to Stumpy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trevorscott 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 i think the signing is ok not great but this is the first year cap and a 1 year deal if he sign it will be is a stop gap u gotta look at injurys and stuff if the youth don't play good and we start the season bad he played ok in the end of last season - the playoff but then again not many play well i'm not for the signing or againest it but mybe he can still put a bit in for 1 year when a few of our players will have that bit of exp in gr russia ect .... imo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites