norrisnick 1 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 I don't remember the exact circumstances, but I thought he took the big contract from Boston as a UFA and Detroit chose not to match it. I don't remember a whole lot of ill will. Besides, that was a very different team and coaching staff in 2001 than we have now. According to the 'What it means to be a Red Wing' book, Marty called Kenny with the offer he got from Boston. Essentially crying because it was too good to pass up and knowing that the Wings wouldn't match. Apparently Kenny reassured him that he was doing the right/smart thing by taking the $20M. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mudvayneowns91 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 Im not so sure about Bert right now. If I had to make a trade now, I'd take Guering over Bert only because of the fact Bert has been injured and hasent played in a while. Maybe if he surprizes everyone in his 2/3 games before the deadline, then I'd take him, but for now I dunno how he will play after the injury . I would also pass on Lapointe, even though I really liked him in a Wings uniform. Not sure if Fedotenko is being mentioned in Wings rumors but I'd take him over Marty because hes about 6 years younger, a bit taller, and has better stats. He also scored some goals when Tampa won the cup (including the GWG). Im not completely sure on this but I think Ruslan is faster than Marty. (Fedotenko is also my favorite Non-Wings player in the NHL) but that aside, I just hope we get someone who will make an impact in our playoff run, unlike good ol' Cross... I'm not too familiar with Fedotenko's ability to hit, but I'd imagine half the reason we'd even be looking at Marty is because he's gritty. idk about everyone else, but I'm sick of teams hitting us hard and we dont having much of an answer for them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cicada 4 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 i'd take Lapointe back in a heartbeat.. he's had some pretty bad linemates since he left tbh...i think he'd work on our 2nd line, or our checking line Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShanahanMan 473 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 The authority reports thus: ooooo.....a "quiet moment".....i like that . Still sounds like progress is being made, if we sign Guerin or Tkachuk I'll be more then satisfied.......just, don't sign someone like anson carter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mudvayneowns91 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 i'd take Lapointe back in a heartbeat.. he's had some pretty bad linemates since he left tbh...i think he'd work on our 2nd line, or our checking line Ok, say we do get Marty back. What exactly is his salary now? and do you think that's the salary we'd have to take? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 Ok, say we do get Marty back. What exactly is his salary now? and do you think that's the salary we'd have to take? I think it's 2.4 mill. and he has another year on his contract, so yes the Wings would have to pay it next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShanahanMan 473 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 (edited) Ok, say we do get Marty back. What exactly is his salary now? and do you think that's the salary we'd have to take? 2.4 million, but I believe his contract expires july 1st. sorry, question answered above me. Edited February 20, 2007 by shanahanman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cicada 4 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 Ok, say we do get Marty back. What exactly is his salary now? and do you think that's the salary we'd have to take? i think he's on about 2.5, so we'd have to take about 800k of that.. i think he's signed for next year though as well, so that may create issues... i'm not saying it's going to happen and i'm not saying it's necessarily a great idea... but i always loved him as a wing, and i think he could do a job for us Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mudvayneowns91 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 (edited) i think he's on about 2.5, so we'd have to take about 800k of that.. i think he's signed for next year though as well, so that may create issues... i'm not saying it's going to happen and i'm not saying it's necessarily a great idea... but i always loved him as a wing, and i think he could do a job for us Well, whether it's 2.4/5, that's not bad at all. That would be a great signing, but I'd hope Kenny wouldn't just stop there. I'd love to add him, but we'd still need to add a guy like Guerin. Edited February 20, 2007 by Mudvayneowns91 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShanahanMan 473 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 Marty Lapointe kinda sucks, I don't see him being on our 1st two lines. 2 days later...... Well, whether it's 2.4/5, that's not bad at all. That would be a great signing, but I'd hope Kenny wouldn't just stop there. I'd love to add him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superstarsingh 23 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 Id like Lapointe even though his salary scares me a bit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 794 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 Id like Lapointe even though his salary scares me a bit saying stupider should scare you more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheUkrainian 49 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 I'm not too familiar with Fedotenko's ability to hit, but I'd imagine half the reason we'd even be looking at Marty is because he's gritty. idk about everyone else, but I'm sick of teams hitting us hard and we dont having much of an answer for them I'm not completely sure but the last few games that I have watched had him hitting a good amount, although most games he gets about 4-9 registered hits (more than our team total sometimes... ), thats as of recent i think. I know theres a hits count somewhere but my internet is crapping out right now so I'm not gunna find it. I think he has a potential to do a lot better with the wings, playing on a top caliber team and all.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mudvayneowns91 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 2 days later...... I'm not sure I said exactly that, but I will eat my words a bit. I don't think he has much offensively anymore. We need a player who will muck it up with others and protect our players if needed, he does that, no? I'd be just as happy signing Laraque. Do you think Marty would be on our first 2 lines? All I hear about is that we need to sign a top 6 forward, and you know as well as I know, Marty isn't that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted February 21, 2007 This is what the Prosportsdaily has shown today for what we're interested in. We got Tkachuck, Guerin, Roberts, Bertuzzi, Blake, Smyth, Stumpel and Carter. I'm not too keen on Stumpel or Roberts really, but the rest wouldn't be bad to pick up. what'd you guys think? http://www.prosportsdaily.com/nhl_rumors.html Id take Roberts and Stumpel over Carter any day of the week. I might even prefer Willy in the lineup over Carter. The last thing we need is a soft, lazy floater. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nutz2u Report post Posted February 21, 2007 Lapointe sucks @2.4M Jamal Mayers @.9M B4 Lapointe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShanahanMan 473 Report post Posted February 21, 2007 I'm not sure I said exactly that, but I will eat my words a bit. I don't think he has much offensively anymore. We need a player who will muck it up with others and protect our players if needed, he does that, no? I'd be just as happy signing Laraque. Do you think Marty would be on our first 2 lines? All I hear about is that we need to sign a top 6 forward, and you know as well as I know, Marty isn't that maybe not the 1st or 2nd but definitely the 3rd. He's tough and he can score.......we could use that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mudvayneowns91 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2007 (edited) maybe not the 1st or 2nd but definitely the 3rd. He's tough and he can score.......we could use that. see, so my comment isn't totally off the wall Id take Roberts and Stumpel over Carter any day of the week. I might even prefer Willy in the lineup over Carter. The last thing we need is a soft, lazy floater. To be honest, maybe Blake is our cheapeast option. He's old at 34, but we wouldn't have to give up to get as much as the others. Plus this year he's having a good as year as he's ever had Edited February 21, 2007 by Mudvayneowns91 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShanahanMan 473 Report post Posted February 21, 2007 see, so my comment isn't totally off the wall not totally....but he doesn't suck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted February 21, 2007 Take what you want from this, but a buddy of mine works for a large hockey publication and said that he was told that the Wings are the final stages of trading for Todd Bertuzzi in exchange for Igor Grigorenko and a first round pick. If its true it sounds good to me! WHAT? Bert for Grigs AND a 1st is not a good deal. Grigs is the closest thing we have to a power forwad who's ready to come in and Bert wont play before the deadline. The only way I see this deal happening is if Bertuzzi will then sign a long-term contract with Detroit which, in that case, would be a fair offer. see, so my comment isn't totally off the wall To be honest, maybe Blake is our cheapeast option. He's old at 34, but we wouldn't have to give up to get as much as the others. Plus this year he's having a good as year as he's ever had I agree Blake would be a good, fairly cheap option. People can knock him for his age or sieze, but hed be our fiestiest guy up front and our fastest bar none. Plus he scores ugly goals, goes to the net, and is oozing confidence right now. Not a bad option at all and lightyears ahead of Carter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mudvayneowns91 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2007 not totally....but he doesn't suck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted February 21, 2007 The Islanders are still in the playoff hunt. So tell me why they would get rid of their leading scorer in Jason Blake? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mudvayneowns91 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2007 WHAT? Bert for Grigs AND a 1st is not a good deal. Grigs is the closest thing we have to a power forwad who's ready to come in and Bert wont play before the deadline. The only way I see this deal happening is if Bertuzzi will then sign a long-term contract with Detroit which, in that case, would be a fair offer. I agree Blake would be a good, fairly cheap option. People can knock him for his age or sieze, but hed be our fiestiest guy up front and our fastest bar none. Plus he scores ugly goals, goes to the net, and is oozing confidence right now. Not a bad option at all and lightyears ahead of Carter. And you gotta love the fact that statistically, these past two years he's been scoring and getting assists so much more than he has had in the past The Islanders are still in the playoff hunt. So tell me why they would get rid of their leading scorer in Jason Blake? Idk man, but there are multiple sources saying that he's avaliable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut03 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2007 I'd prefer Guerin over Tkachuk just because Guerin is alot faster and seems like he has a better attitude and more leadership than Keith Tkachuk. However, why hasn't anybody commented on Gary Roberts?? Why hasn't his name come up on the boards more often? In my opinion, he's EXACTLY what we're looking for right now. A playoff rental, which could turn into another year if he pans out with our team and likes it here. He's a veteran who plays with a big mean streak (anyone even watch his days in Toronto??) I can't remember how many times I saw him play great while bitten with a big injury, and coming up huge in important games with huge goals/hits/fights. He's character all the way, and can also score for a 40 year old. Somebody please tell me why we aren't looking deeper at him?? Him and Guerin and we have a great run to look forward to in my honest opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted February 21, 2007 see, so my comment isn't totally off the wall To be honest, maybe Blake is our cheapeast option. He's old at 34, but we wouldn't have to give up to get as much as the others. Plus this year he's having a good as year as he's ever had Blake isn't going anywhere, with the Islanders being in a close race for a playoff spot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
