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[Schneids_is_awesome 0]

Are you guys kiddin me? You are going to make a blanket statemnet that the whole Predators fan base is ignorant because of a couple of fans?

I just read this whole thread and one of your people said the wings one 3 cups. Well, is it 3 or 10?? Boy you guys don't know she-at about hockey.

I've been lurking on this board for a while, finally decided to join the fun.

Okay, wings ten cups, Preds none. How long were the wings in the league before they one 1? The cups argument doesn't really hold water.

Anyway, good luck tonight. It should be interesting how our respective MASH units play tonight.

As mentioned in the 1st two pages of this forum, people were like ohh Wings have win 10 cups to Nashville's 0. Then it came up that that isn't a fair assumtion because Nashville wasn't around way back when. So the three cups are the Stanley Cups we won while Nashville was in existence. Infering like u said later in your post that comparing Stanley Cups isn't fair is a bunch of crap. If Nashville had won a single Cup in that time period I am sure that would have already been mentioned a couple times in this forum. If Stanley cup victories can't be counted, what can? Can central division, western conference, president trophies--any of that stuff be counted? If these teams can't be compared to by past success how can they be compared? I am sure you'd say the present because that is the only time that Nashville has been able to keep up with the wings. Anywho, looking forward to the game tonight. Good luck tonight--looks like both sides will need it with all the injuries (is it true Forsberg is out?).

EDIT:: We won one cup during Nashville's time in the NHL...still more than zero, but me bad, not 3.

Edited March 6, 2007 by Schneids_is_awesome

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

So the three cups are the Stanley Cups we won while Nashville was in existence.

Not to be a dick here, but it's actually just one. Nashville entered the league a year after Detroit's back to back runs.

No matter. I'm sure most people know what's being said when reference is made to three Stanley Cup victories.

[Guest paveldatsukthenextsavard]

"3. I'd trade the highly overated Lidstrom. He sucks, and should be sent to the Minors. "

wow... just wow

[hated and proud 0]

To schneids: I think the wings have only won 1 cup since the Preds have been in the league. I think you have to compare teams during the time they've both been in existance. Other wise it's like a 60 year old saying to a 9 year old "I've screwed 30 women, what do you say to that youngster."

to enforcer: don't know willy29. I'm a new and improved troll.

To wings fans: This whole wings suck thing...speaking for myself anyway, doesn't really mean the wings are aweful and they suck. It's more like "I hate the wings." Noone can honestly say the wings suck. I mean come on...look at what they've accomplished and they're level of play!! This Preds fan has npthing but respect for this team. Your scary and fun to hate.

Heroes beat me to it.

"3. I'd trade the highly overated Lidstrom. He sucks, and should be sent to the Minors. "

wow... just wow

Yeah...what can you say. This person is obviously blinded by "hate" for the wings. Dumb statement...no doubt.

Edited March 6, 2007 by hated and proud

[Zetter is Better 0]

There wasn`t that much booing and it was all from the retarded classless Nashville fans.

[Schneids_is_awesome 0]

Not to be a dick here, but it's actually just one. Nashville entered the league a year after Detroit's back to back runs.

No matter. I'm sure most people know what's being said when reference is made to three Stanley Cup victories.

To schneids: I think the wings have only won 1 cup since the Preds have been in the league

Haha, sorry..not up to date on my Nashville Preds history...clearly. So many expansion teams and I can't keep them all straight...damn Bettman.

Edited March 6, 2007 by Schneids_is_awesome

[Zion 93]

LOL @ Lidstrom being overrated. Trolling at its worst.

[Zetter is Better 0]

"3. I'd trade the highly overated Lidstrom. He sucks, and should be sent to the Minors. "

wow... just wow

^STUPID COMMENT^

PLEASE IGNORE

[WingsZR2 1]

I've read it all and now its time to chime in with my first hand perspective of the Nashville fans.

When hockey first came to Nashville there were more Wings fans at the game than Preds fans. Over the years those #'s have shifted but there are still plenty of Winged Wheels in attendance. In the beginning Tennesseans didn't know anything about hockey which lead to the "schooling" of hockey related terms on the jumbotron during the game. They do a lot of s*** talking in Nashville which I couldn't understand because until last year they didn't have a leg to stand on. I've had a fair # of intelligent conversations with the Nashville fans but more often than not I get into an argument when they mention that we "bought" our cups. My best defense to that is when you've been one of the top teams in the last 15 years and you have the management/ownership that we do, if you can put the best product on the ice then do it but in 02 we did have our problems with the Canucks and Avs, the league didn't just hand the cup over right away. I've heard the Wings called a bunch of old farts, a classless organization, and that its our time to step down. Then there is the whole Cheli is a sissy thing, I take that to heart since he is frickin Captain America and if that’s how they feel about the captain of team USA so be it. Speaking of the Captain I heard a 40 something year old at the game on 2/24 talking about Stevie, he keep going on and on about Yzerman having herpes. People at work ask me why I don't give the Preds any respect and I'll always say respect is earned, not given. I'll respect them when they've accomplished something, so far that haven't done anything to warrant it. Part of me is thankful that Nashville has a pro NHL team and that they are in the Wings division so I can watch them live at least 4 times a year, part of me is pissed at the over expansion of the NHL and the current schedule that goes along with it. I guess you can find arrogance anywhere you go, in some places it stands out more than others.

Proudly supporting the boys from Hockeytown in the Music City

WingsZR2

Also the thing about Lids being overrated, I wonder how they will feel when he collects his 5th Norris?

X 10

[WingNutt 12]

Ok with the Nick being over rated comments aside. I didn't really think the Nashville fans were that bad on thier forums. They didn't say anything that was class-less, Most everyone on here is getting all uptight about it. The St. Lois forums were 100 times worse. Nashville was giving reasons to "hate" the team but in some of thier post it was almost like a complement in disguise. Legion has been on the LGW forums for a long time and he has never been a problem and I consider him to be a pretty good guy. Nashville doesen't like us because they know how good we are and how we are a threat to thier team. the jersey thing is dumb I feel but the rest of thier fans atleast RESPECT our team enough to chose thier words to be tasteful.

The St. Lois boards crossed the line multiple times, making fun of our players getting hurt and making comments not only about the team, but the fans, the city, and the entire STATE of Michigan.

This is HockeyTown like it or not.

Not saying I'm a Nashville fan or anything but I respect thier fans WAY WAY more than the select few from the Blues Forums.

Edited March 6, 2007 by WingNutt

[Hockeytown Red Wings 245]

Didn't we just have this conversation last week, only it was the Blues forum? People hate the Wings, when you're as good as the Wings have been for the last 15+ years, people get sick of your s*** and hate you.

It doesn't help that some of the Wings fans here are arrogant and like to think they're superior to other team's fans just because of who they root for. I love talking hockey with anyone, so long as they're not an idiot homer.

[The Enforcer 13]

To schneids: I think the wings have only won 1 cup since the Preds have been in the league. I think you have to compare teams during the time they've both been in existance. Other wise it's like a 60 year old saying to a 9 year old "I've screwed 30 women, what do you say to that youngster."

to enforcer: don't know willy29. I'm a new and improved troll.

To wings fans: This whole wings suck thing...speaking for myself anyway, doesn't really mean the wings are aweful and they suck. It's more like "I hate the wings." Noone can honestly say the wings suck. I mean come on...look at what they've accomplished and they're level of play!! This Preds fan has npthing but respect for this team. Your scary and fun to hate.

Heroes beat me to it.

Yeah...what can you say. This person is obviously blinded by "hate" for the wings. Dumb statement...no doubt.

Lets all welcome little willy back to the boards.

[chelios4eva 0]

Wow I'm acctually very surprised

I mean I know some comments are pretty retarted, we all know which ones. But at least some of the people will admit that they hate us cause we're better. Such as "The same reason why everyones becoming to hate us [predators]), I mean thats true, I'm starting to hate the preds because they are starting to rise up and give us a run for our money. If you go to other boards (Blues, Avs), they wouldn't even admit that. Like once I posted on a blues that there team wasn't preforming to the best that they can righ tnow, (I wasn't trolling, but it was part of my argument), and no one would agree, they were just like well look at our record, its not that bad. We're still playing great hockey.

Some of these fans atleast would put a good reason for hating us, I don't mind them hating us as long as its a good reason.

Edited March 6, 2007 by chelios4eva

[BlueMonk 102]

I do wish the Preds boards had better moderation. I believe we only have one Admin/Mod and it can take quite a while sometimes before he comes on and takes down trolls, duplicate threads and other trash. I mean, he's a good mod for sure, but it would be nice to have a few more.

Oh, I've never even been to the Preds board. I was just taking a gratuitous opportunity to speak in generalities and pat myself on the back.

[vandypred 0]

Didn't we just have this conversation last week, only it was the Blues forum? People hate the Wings, when you're as good as the Wings have been for the last 15+ years, people get sick of your s*** and hate you.

It doesn't help that some of the Wings fans here are arrogant and like to think they're superior to other team's fans just because of who they root for. I love talking hockey with anyone, so long as they're not an idiot homer.

As a former denizen of the Gateway City (leader in crime to boot suckuz!!!), it was very easy to have extreme prejudice towards the Wings since the mid-80's, so I understand some of the crazy stuff from Blues fans. There is a direct correllation to the poaching of Demers from the Blues to the rise of the Wings in the 90's and they played second fiddle to the Wings and spent almost as much on salaries and acquisitions trying to buy a cup themselves. Sounds like sour grapes; but it does suck when you have to drink it. A lot of folks their tend to think that all culture culminates the confluence of the Missouri and Mississippi Rivers. I was one of them till I transplanted in the 90's to NashVegas. So I had history in the Wings rivalry in Blue colored glasses. Always respected them; but the players they had acquired at trade deadlines were generally always a result of poor league economics and helps fuel the perception that they we're 'buying' players because they could afford players like Lang, Chelios, and Shanahan. A lot of the time, perception is reality in their minds view. I always hated seeing Shanny do so well in Detroit when he was shipped to Hartford for Pronger by Keenan in just one of the many cruddy moves the Blues have done over the years and Hull in the red hurt too. Plus looking so much like the old Soviet teams in uniform and machine-like prowess doesn't help the guys like me that grew up on the other side of the winged wheel and experienced the Miracle on Ice... make assumptions (plus it seemed like y'all had Stevie Y and a bunch of 'ov's for a few years).

But I'm in Nashville now for the long haul and love having a good team. Some of us are more exuberant and childish than others. I've always been courteous to Wings fans as they do show up for their team and help attendance. I've had many Michigan transplants in the office and we have had some good banter over hockey over the years.

A lot of the homer sounding posters on our boards is a result of expansion to a certain extent; but also of pent up angxst over what was once a hopeless cause to being one of seeing the light. People get stupid in success. But I see a lot of homer comments here too that I find funny and rediculous at the same time. Just remember, there are rednecks everywhere, they just seem to show up on TV from here more because of the music industry and fan fair. Trust me most of the locals leave when that lot shows up. Tourists thinkin' we all wear cowboy hats and western wear and wearin' it to fit in is hilarious to watch. Expect us to get better over time and a deep playoff run will help to cement tohe corporate base that most other teams enjoy. Y'all have it based on success and longevity. We're less than 10 years old in a non-traditional market and will take a hot run like the 99 Titans had to the Super Bowl to really captivate the business community and buy into them.

[hated and proud 0]

Didn't we just have this conversation last week, only it was the Blues forum? People hate the Wings, when you're as good as the Wings have been for the last 15+ years, people get sick of your s*** and hate you.

It doesn't help that some of the Wings fans here are arrogant and like to think they're superior to other team's fans just because of who they root for. I love talking hockey with anyone, so long as they're not an idiot homer.

Thank you HockeytownRW. I agree 100% with this post.

[Viperar 16]

I have only ever come across one nashville fan and he was definately courteous and had a good discussion with him, never been to nashville though

[Kp-Wings 3]

I don't understand why many people prefer to pay attention to matters at OTHER message boards. It confinds me.

While I do agree that the comments, the ones about Lidstrom especially, amoung others, were really taken out of context, they weren't being posted here. Would you all prefer that these comments be posted there or here?

[BuckeyeWingsfan80 209]

That board hurts my head.

I have a couple cousins in Tennessee who are Preds fans. I'll have to show that thread to them

[Dawn of Pred 0]

That board hurts my head.

I have a couple cousins in Tennessee who are Preds fans. I'll have to show that thread to them

I live in Nashville and am a season ticket holder. I also have been a hockey fan since the sixties since I grew up in NY and saw a "real dynasty" on the Island as a season ticket holder of NY hockey clubs since 1966. The reason the acrimony exists for Preds fans is Wings fans believe they have a right to claim dominance because of their history. Plus we have so many complaining GM workers at Saturn plants in Spring Hill we just cant stand them. They show up in red and root for the wings but the rest of the yr they wear pred gear. Yes the guy who sits next to me is one of those wing flip floppers. And we try to avoid talking to him. I told him why last Wing game and he looked shocked. That is a better flip flop than Al Gore. Truth be told, The Red Wings over the last ten yrs they did less with more. They never won as much as they should have given the roster and payroll and any Wing fan knows that deep inside.

Now the Preds come as a bad expansion team and the wings beat up on their little brother. Well, little brother is not so little anymore and now he can spank the big dog. This decade of the Pred has begun. This team is loaded with tons of young talent and will be good for a long time. The wings, while still solid are close to done over the next decade. Age is everywhere important and the cubbbard is not packed. The wings style will allow them to stay in games and Lids is a stud player and always has been. But the preds are very deep and can play way more styles than any team in hockey. Shea Weber is virtual unknown in most places but watch him play and you will see a future Norris winner. Press goes to a Phaneuf. I'll take Weber for the long haul. They have 4 deep lines, and two proven netminders. Say what you will Foppa is kyptonite to the Wings. And unlike Pavel and Zetterberg he shows up bigger in post season and has avg over a point a game in post season. Oh yeah, he kills the Wings too. Your pain will be over shortly. And Tootoo will kill Boots. I'll leave on a nice note. I have always liked Draper. He is a great and underated hockey player.

Edited March 6, 2007 by Dawn of Pred

[Guest LivingtheDream]

I live in Nashville and am a season ticket holder. I also have been a hockey fan since the sixties since I grew up in NY and saw a "real dynasty" on the Island as a season ticket holder of NY hockey clubs since 1966. The reason the acrimony exists for Preds fans is Wings fans believe they have a right to claim dominance because of their history. Plus we have so many complaining GM workers at Saturn plants in Spring Hill. They show up in red and root for th ewings but the rest of the yr they wear pred gear. That is a better flip flop than Al Gore. Truth be told, The Red Wings over the last ten yrs they did less with more. They never won as much as they should have and any Wing fan knows that deep inside.

Now the Preds come as a bad expansion team and the wings beat up on their little brother. Well, little brother is not so little anymore and now he can spank the big dog. This decade of the Pred has begun. This team is loaded with tons of young talent and will be good for a long time. The wings while still solid are close to done over the next decade. Age is everywhere important and the cubbbard is not packed. The wings style will allow them to stay in games and Lids is a stud player and always has been. But the preds are very deep and can play way more styles than any team in hockey. Shea Weber is virtual unknown in most places but watch him play and you will see a future Norris winner. Press goes to a Phaneuf. I'll take Weber for the long haul. They have 4 deep lines, and two proven netminders. Say what you will Foppa is kyptonite to the Wings. And unlike Pavel and Zetterberg he shows up bigger in post season and has avg over a point a game in post season. Oh yeah, he kills the Wings too. Your pain will be over shortly. And Tootoo will kill Boots. I'll leave on a nice note. I have always liked Draper. He is a great and underated hockey player.

Welcome to the forum Dawn of Pred! A few zingers there, some may even hurt due to some little bit of truth, but I think we can take it. I personally don't see a rivalry on par with the Avs rivarly, but I sure like watching Wings-Preds games. Very exciting, intense and some darn great hockey. Unlike Chicago, Columbs, St. Louis... you never know what to expect in playing the Preds. The great thing about this is it is great hockey and the NHL needs more of that!

Funny you didn't mention your best player - Kariya. I have watched him at live games and when you see him cruising around and the things he does it is hard not to realize he is one of the most dangerous offensive players in the game. He is so good and comes through so often it is really hard not to "hate" him as an opposing fan. I'd say he qualifies as kryptonite more than Foppa, but that is just quibbling.

Should we have won more cups? Could we have been more of a dynasty? Perhaps, but I'm a half glass full kind of guy and as a Wings fan through rough times and the best of times, I'd say our glass is one of those giant beer mugs and it is spilling over all over the floor. I believe they have the highest winning % of any sports team in the past 10 or more years. Say what you will, but that is HUGE and shows smart management, dedication and vision. The Preds may be good, but they have yet to prove they are worthy of the very highest status in the NHL. We'll see what happens.

Edited March 6, 2007 by LivingtheDream

[Legionnaire11 0]

I think the Wings have done quite well in the age of free agency. If they had the owners who would spend money, and the scouting staff that would get the right players in say the 70's or 80's, then they would have won more cups. But in this era, to win 3 cups in 10 years is pretty amazing, so i don't think Wings fans should be feeling like they could have gotten more.

[DVDplayer 0]

The wings, while still solid are close to done over the next decade. Age is everywhere important and the cubbbard is not packed.

Really? Haven't heard that before! No wait...I HAVE heard that before...that's what fans of rival teams (and hockey "experts") have been saying about the Wings since about 1996.

They have 4 deep lines,

When healthy, Nashville has 4 deep lines.

When healthy, so do the Wings.

and two proven netminders.

Hasek and Osgood have both been the starting goaltenders for Stanley Cup winning teams.

Say what you will Foppa is kyptonite to the Wings.

Floppa hasn't been on the winning end of a playoff handshake against the Wings in almost 7 years (2000)

And unlike Pavel and Zetterberg he shows up bigger in post season and has avg over a point a game in post season.

You are half right.

Pavel, to this point, HAS been a playoff disapointment.

Zetterberg, on the other hand, had 6 goals in 6 games last year vs the Oilers which isn't too shabby.

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

Truth be told, The Red Wings over the last ten yrs they did less with more. They never won as much as they should have given the roster and payroll and any Wing fan knows that deep inside.

I couldn't disagree more. I count my lucky stars every year that, even when the Wings don't win it all, I've had the wonderful opportunity to see them with the Stanley Cup three times. It's so hard to win it in this era with so many good teams and so much roster turnover, that to win it as much as they did in that small time frame was a huge accomplishment to me.

You can talk all you want about payrolls and whatnot, but in the end you need to be just as good as you are lucky, and so the Red Wings orginization has been extremely blessed with their success in recent years. And you know, they worked too hard to get what they did, to just say "they shoulda won more." Talk about easier said than done.

[Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA]

Not all of them are that bad. Two sides to every story. Get over it and let our game talk.