Wings_Dynasty 267 Report post Posted March 16, 2007 (edited) sorry, i am a grammar and spelling nut... it is statuTe of limitations, not statue anyways, I don't think the South needs more NHL teams. There just is not the market. eg: PHX, FLA, NSH, ATL... grow up NHL, I mean come on, hockey in Vegas? If a movie has to happen, put it in Seattle or Canada According to Buttman, your point is mute, GRAMMAR THAT! Also, I would rather see a Winnepeg team to fill that huge gap between Calgary and Ottawa, but then again if they want ratings in the US, they need a US team with US fans. So a Dakota or Montana team may be the answer as opposed to Vegas. Seattle isn't a bad idea, but they aren't a very well known market when it comes to sports. They try, but don't succeed. I don't know what the NHL ratings are in Canada, but they are hurting here and that's why ESPN dropped it and why we have to put up with OLN. Edited March 16, 2007 by Wings_Dynasty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted March 16, 2007 I don't have a problem with a team in Vegas. Instead of expanding though, I think the League should relocate a franchise. Seattle sounds good to me too. They should move the Panthers and the Kings to Vegas and Seattle. Florida and Georga shouldn't have 3 teams, and I think overall the LA market would do better if there was just one Franchise there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted March 16, 2007 According to Buttman, your point is mute, GRAMMAR THAT! Also, I would rather see a Winnepeg team, but then again if they want ratings in the US, they need a US team with US fans. I don't know what the NHL ratings are in Canada, but they are hurting here and that's why ESPN dropped it and why we have to put up with OLN. Really, in all being, it's almost impossible to think the ratings would suddenly shoot up if there was a team in Vegas. Most people would laugh at that thought to begin with. And besides that, I highly doubt a Las Vegas team would make any news, even if it had Sid or someone of that nature on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sibiriak 84 Report post Posted March 16, 2007 Fine, it's really really close though. Here's my better argument; Detroit is geographically closer to an eastern conference team that has changed conferences already than Columbus Also, Detroit has been in the league longer and has seniority is choosing if they want to move. Detroit has more rivals in the east than Columbus. Detroit is smarter than Columbus. And I'm pretty sure Detroit's dad can beat up Columbus' dad. If it helps, NWA is in south central Columbus, while JLA is in southEAST Detroit. According to Google Earth, JLA is 2.16 miles West of NWA. So you see, JLA is West from NWA Noway Detroit gets to go East then. Seriously speaking, I live in Columbus, so I'd rather see Detroit live 4 times a year than once in 3 years. As to original rivalries, they seemtobe important only for the purists. If Detroit plyed ina more competitive division, much of the impetus behind a move to the east would be gone. And in 5-10 years, the Central may become the strongest division in the NHL, we just don't know. If Chicago gets their act together, Columbus finally hires a competent GM, Blues continue to improve, the Central may become attractive to watch fairly soon. Also, more interconference games will eventually be scheduled. It'll take a few years but it will happen. So I don't think moving to the East should be high on the Wings list of priorities. But building a new arena at least 2.5 miles to the east from the Joe may be Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted March 16, 2007 I don't have a problem with a team in Vegas. Instead of expanding though, I think the League should relocate a franchise. Seattle sounds good to me too. They should move the Panthers and the Kings to Vegas and Seattle. Florida and Georga shouldn't have 3 teams, and I think overall the LA market would do better if there was just one Franchise there. Disagree on the LA point. The Kings, despite being horrible, have a much better fan base than the Ducks. I think after seeing an attendance figure for this season, the Kings were still ahead of the Ducks despite all of the problems they've had this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Dynasty 267 Report post Posted March 16, 2007 So you see, JLA is West from NWA Noway Detroit gets to go East then. Seriously speaking, I live in Columbus, so I'd rather see Detroit live 4 times a year than once in 3 years. As to original rivalries, they seemtobe important only for the purists. If Detroit plyed ina more competitive division, much of the impetus behind a move to the east would be gone. And in 5-10 years, the Central may become the strongest division in the NHL, we just don't know. If Chicago gets their act together, Columbus finally hires a competent GM, Blues continue to improve, the Central may become attractive to watch fairly soon. Also, more interconference games will eventually be scheduled. It'll take a few years but it will happen. So I don't think moving to the East should be high on the Wings list of priorities. But building a new arena at least 2.5 miles to the east from the Joe may be Then we're the Windsor Wings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sibiriak 84 Report post Posted March 16, 2007 Then we're the Windsor Wings Or Toledo Wings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted March 16, 2007 Disagree on the LA point. The Kings, despite being horrible, have a much better fan base than the Ducks. I think after seeing an attendance figure for this season, the Kings were still ahead of the Ducks despite all of the problems they've had this season. Ok, well Anaheim then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sting 11 0 Report post Posted March 16, 2007 This would be a colossal mistake. It's irrelevant which conference the Wings play in if the league collapses around them. The league is too big with 30 teams -- no more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted March 16, 2007 Then we're the Windsor Wings It'll be easier for me to go to games then . The new arena should be closer to Hockeytown Cafe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted March 16, 2007 I will be very surprised and extremely disappointed if the NHL added two more franchises in the next 5 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank 0 Report post Posted March 16, 2007 I kind of doubt the NHL will expand into Vegas. The league needs to consolidate before expanding again. It isn't like they are generating humongous ratings or actual attendance figures right now. NEVER, underestimate the owners greed or lack of forsight. They would expand to 30 more cities if it menat more sweet expansion fees. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StaticWithABeat 0 Report post Posted March 16, 2007 24 teams was perfect...26 was acceptable...30 is too many...more than 30 would be simply retarded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theman19 47 Report post Posted March 16, 2007 just no,.....no more expansion for the love of Bob probert,...no more,... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted March 16, 2007 NOOOOOOO When will we STOP??? How can the sport with the LEAST fans have the MOST teams?? Ho hum. I dont mind Vegas (even though it is a glorified suburb). I Used to go their every 6 weeks for over a year and the city is probably 50% transplanted northerners. Ive probably had upwards of 100 people come up to me when i was wearing anything U of M and tell they were from michigan or went to u of m. it was craziness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted March 16, 2007 I'd like to see the source for his supposed "fact." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted March 16, 2007 If they wanted to RELOCATE a team to Vegas, that would be one thing. Ship the COYOTES to Vegas. They have no fans and have to pay just to have a team there with all the money they lose. If theres an expansion draft, at least Lilja and Sammy should go unprotected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJmonak10 0 Report post Posted March 16, 2007 nhl.com reports that in an effort to stop the detroit/columbus controversy as to who gets to move east, and also to preserve the thriving detroit/colorado rivalry, the nhl will have expansion markets next season in portland, seatle, vegas, mexico city, honduras, salt lake city, nagano, and honolulu. this will effectively move detroit, columbus, dallas and colorado to the eastern conference. peace will be restored. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bender 0 Report post Posted March 16, 2007 This would be a colossal mistake. It's irrelevant which conference the Wings play in if the league collapses around them. The league is too big with 30 teams -- no more. qft Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted March 16, 2007 If they wanted to RELOCATE a team to Vegas, that would be one thing. Ship the COYOTES to Vegas. They have no fans and have to pay just to have a team there with all the money they lose. If theres an expansion draft, at least Lilja and Sammy should go unprotected. I like the idea of moving the Coyotes. The fan base is horrible, and since the team is LOSING money it should be fine. Contracting or moving a team that is losing money really shouldn't be too big of a deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bogeygolfer 4 Report post Posted March 16, 2007 it's made clear by the wings that if there is a team that goes east it should be the wings, and it's also been said that there was some sort of deal made between the league and the wings. Also from what I've read holland said, the wings will be putting up a huge stink if they don't go east Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rikadyn 16 Report post Posted March 16, 2007 it's made clear by the wings that if there is a team that goes east it should be the wings, and it's also been said that there was some sort of deal made between the league and the wings. Also from what I've read holland said, the wings will be putting up a huge stink if they don't go east could you imagine what the protest would be, IMO something extreme like refusing to ice a team for the road games would be the biggest f*** You to the league Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted March 16, 2007 could you imagine what the protest would be, IMO something extreme like refusing to ice a team for the road games would be the biggest f*** You to the league Oh right, the league would really give a s***. Let's forfeit half our games to protest not moving conferences. You win the prize for biggest clown-ass idea I've seen all week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JayUp88 1 Report post Posted March 16, 2007 could you imagine what the protest would be, IMO something extreme like refusing to ice a team for the road games would be the biggest f*** You to the league haha oh man that would be bad for the game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheLegend19 1 Report post Posted March 16, 2007 Fine, it's really really close though. Here's my better argument; Detroit is geographically closer to an eastern conference team that has changed conferences already than Columbus Also, Detroit has been in the league longer and has seniority is choosing if they want to move. Detroit has more rivals in the east than Columbus. Detroit is smarter than Columbus. And I'm pretty sure Detroit's dad can beat up Columbus' dad. If it helps, NWA is in south central Columbus, while JLA is in southEAST Detroit. According to Google Earth, JLA is 2.16 miles West of NWA. That's the point I try to make. Don't we have some sort of seniority because we've been in the league 80 years longer than them? On the point of Detroit's dad beating up Columbus' dad, there's no fight. It's Columbus. They are a nothing town. They mean nothing to anybody that has any connection to Michigan, Ann Arbor, of the University of Michigan. (Hell, anyone who has a brain for that matter ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites