Viperar 16 Report post Posted March 26, 2007 5 Reasons Lang SHOULD NOT go: 1. Huddles DOES NOT approve 2. Who would be our big scapegoat? Seriously, who? 3. He is 5th in like everything. Who doesn't like a #5 guy? 5 is a good round number 4. He usually can do stuff in the playoffs which is always good. 5. He has a funny song when he scores a goal at the Joe hahahaha huddles probably def doesnt approve...housing is important id assume Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted March 26, 2007 (edited) My ideal lineup for next season, assuming no roster players are traded. Free agent acquisitions are underlined. Hudler/Datsyuk/]Hartnell I think I just threw up in my mouth. I would never EVER in a million years welcome that piece of s*** to the Wings. ...I honestly don't want Malts or Langer to go. Sammy can go. I'm a fan of Schneids as well. I don't get why people rag on this guy? He is still a very good defensman and is fiesty as hell. He can get the job done. He hasn't had his best season but so what? That's the problem with Wings fans. A player can be consistently good for years but once they have ONE not so great season they bail on them and want them gone. IE: Langer and Schneids. Maltby and Lang always show up in the post season..and honestly that is what matters most isn't it? Edited March 26, 2007 by hockeycrazy3033 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viperar 16 Report post Posted March 26, 2007 i think if lang shows up big in the post season he might be able to reconcile himself with us, and sammy will be the new attack beacon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted March 26, 2007 5 Reasons Lang SHOULD NOT go: 1. Huddles DOES NOT approve 2. Who would be our big scapegoat? Seriously, who? 3. He is 5th in like everything. Who doesn't like a #5 guy? 5 is a good round number 4. He usually can do stuff in the playoffs which is always good. 5. He has a funny song when he scores a goal at the Joe So true! Also I would definitely miss him saying "You know" about 10 times per interview! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwfan007 18 Report post Posted March 26, 2007 I have to agree with you about all of them in fact. I don't think Hasek would be good mentor at all. He seems like more of a person you watch, not learn from. Not like Ozzie. He seems like a good guy and easy to get along with. as good as dom is, I would not want any up and coming goalie to watch him and try to emulate him. He has his own system, and I think any attempt at it by an outsider would be disastrous. He would be a good mentor just like Kenny Rogers is a good mentor for the tigers pitching staff, dom has been there and back, has won everything there is to win, and is not content with that... thats what drives him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poxer 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2007 I'm not saying Dom would be a bad guy or friend just not something you could learn a whole lot from and probably someone you dont want to learn from because he plays a undiscplined game unline Marty Brodeur. Dom, like Kenny Rogers, leads by example IMO. I just don't think you want someone to play like Dom. I don't want another flopping around goalie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Schneids_is_awesome 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2007 5 Reasons Lang SHOULD NOT go: 1. Huddles DOES NOT approve 2. Who would be our big scapegoat? Seriously, who? 3. He is 5th in like everything. Who doesn't like a #5 guy? 5 is a good round number 4. He usually can do stuff in the playoffs which is always good. 5. He has a funny song when he scores a goal at the Joe LMFAO...Langer has shown up in the playoffs in the past. His song, now that there is no irish jig, is second to none--except maybe the song played when Cleary scores goes on. Regardless, if lang shows up again in the playoffs, keep him and some how some way get rid of Sammy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crashnburnluder 385 Report post Posted March 26, 2007 I was curious about Calgarys situation on contracts.... I heard that Kipper and Iginla's contracts both expire at the end of this season... anybody know if this is true... The reason I ask is that Kipper is going to be asking for a lot more then he is getting right now... and if i heard correctly they dont have enough cap room to support both the pay for Iginla and Kipper so they might have to choose... So if true and they let the goalie go instead of the captain... there might be a possibility too... Im just throwing that out there... as I said before im not 100% sure of there situation... I was curious about Calgarys situation on contracts.... I heard that Kipper and Iginla's contracts both expire at the end of this season... anybody know if this is true... The reason I ask is that Kipper is going to be asking for a lot more then he is getting right now... and if i heard correctly they dont have enough cap room to support both the pay for Iginla and Kipper so they might have to choose... So if true and they let the goalie go instead of the captain... there might be a possibility too... Im just throwing that out there... as I said before im not 100% sure of there situation... sorry dont know why it douple posted... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShanahanMan 473 Report post Posted March 26, 2007 Lilja, woa woa woa woa Lilja Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted March 26, 2007 Yes, I want Dom gone. I didn't like the signing the first time around, I think Ozzie would have gotten the job done then as well. I think you are right, Ozzie is no longer a number one goalie. I would run split duties between Ozzie and Howard. Maybe even bring up Liv. At some point these guys need a chance to play on a regular basis in the NHL. Yeah, Dom is cheap, but slated for UFA status you have Belfour and Joseph. Both have put up similiar number as Hasek, but play on MUCH worse teams. Having Dom around for one more year just doesn't make sense. He has proven this season that he is a shell of what he once was. Oh man, just quit now, dude. Your comment on Grigs already hurt your credibility in my eyes, but this post just shattered it. Let me get this straight: you don't think Ozzie is a number one goalie, so you think that the best solution would be to split the time between Mr. Not-A-#1-Goalie and a rookie goaltender who has proven inconsistent at the AHL level? Further, you say that Belfour and Joseph have similar numbers to Hasek on worse teams; Belfour's 2.81 and .901, and Joseph's .896 and 3.21, don't quite match up with Hasek's 2.13 and .908. Check your stats. Sheesh. What a bogus comment. Finally, you say that Hasek has proven he is a "shell" of his former self when he has been one of the best goaltenders in the league. Right on, man. Honestly, just give it up and walk away. Lang should go. Datsyuk, Filppula, Zetterberg, and Hudler are all natural centers with a level of skill. Lang's money can be used on a guy like Smyth or Hartnell who will not only bring grit and physical play, they will be natural wingers who can put up points. Maltby shoudl go. He makes far too much for what he brings, and is already outperformed on this team by several cheaper players. My ideal lineup for next season, assuming no roster players are traded. Free agent acquisitions are underlined. Smyth/Zetterberg/Holmstrom Hudler/Datsyuk/Hartnell Calder/Filppula/Kopecky Cleary/Draper/Maltby Samuelsson Lidstrom/Kronwall Schneider/Vishnevski Lebda/Chelios Lilja Osgood Liv/Howard/McLennan Why would you have two players who play the EXACT same role--Homer and Smyth-- on the same line? The only fair comparison for goalies is save percentage. I think Belfour is at .901 and Joseph is at .890ish. Dom has a much better team in front of him than either of those to. And the Wings play in a weaker division. All I am saying is while Dom has been good, he hasn't been great. Rob Luongo, he is GREAT Hasek's save percentage probably suffers from the fact that he sees very few shots from the perimeter, and very few shots in general. Luongo is great.... hummokay, I fail to see the point. Datsyuk - Going to receive way too much money for what he contributes when it matters. Also, the kid has a lot of talent and he could easily bring back a lot in return to the organization. How on earth would be bring back lots in return if we didn't sign him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted March 26, 2007 (edited) It wouldn't kill me if the following people were not with the Wings next year, my feelings are neutral for all of these guys... Lilja Maltby Lang Samuelsson I'm assuming though that Lilja and Samuelsson have one year left on both of their contracts next season, so for better/worse they are staying. Some people I'd like for the Wings to resign are Markov and, if Holland can do it at a reasonable price, Datsyuk (please for the health of the forums, let's not go down this path). As for the 'tending, I'm surprised Hasek's groin hasn't bucked the kicket yet (knock on wood). If he can maintain his physical health, I don't have a whole lot of doubts that he can still be one of the better goalies in the league, even being over the hill. I'd like to see Osgood in a starting role again next season with Howard as backup, but if Hasek comes back healthy for one last hurrah, you won't hear much complaints from me. Edited March 26, 2007 by SouthernWingsFan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted March 26, 2007 Just for clarification... After this season Samulesson has 2 years left on his contract. He signed a multi-year extension at the tail end of last season for 3 years. Unless the Wings buy him out, which will never happpen, he will be a Red Wing for another 2 years. Just thought I'd get that out there for everyone who expects him gone after this season, which will not be the case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sibiriak 84 Report post Posted March 26, 2007 Just for clarification... After this season Samulesson has 2 years left on his contract. He signed a multi-year extension at the tail end of last season for 3 years. Unless the Wings buy him out, which will never happpen, he will be a Red Wing for another 2 years. Just thought I'd get that out there for everyone who expects him gone after this season, which will not be the case. Quit shattering people's delusions Since when did signed contracts or no trade clauses matter to anyone on this site? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted March 26, 2007 I know I'm a little late in stating this, but you know who I think needs to go? Its the people that start these types of threads when the Wings are in the midst of a losing streak, and then say nothing of the sort when they're winning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted March 26, 2007 Quit shattering people's delusions Since when did signed contracts or no trade clauses matter to anyone on this site? Jeez, you're right. How could I be so stupid? Despite having a no trade clause, people still think we can trade Draper for Darcy Tucker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted March 26, 2007 I know I'm a little late in stating this, but you know who I think needs to go? Its the people that start these types of threads when the Wings are in the midst of a losing streak, and then say nothing of the sort when they're winning. Also, just to clear things up, Osgood isn't going anywhere, people. He's still on a contract through 07-08. Btw, those dissing him and saying he can't be #1..you are all outta your mind. He's done it before and he can do it again. Especially since he's an even better goalie now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted March 26, 2007 Also, just to clear things up, Osgood isn't going anywhere, people. He's still on a contract through 07-08. Btw, those dissing him and saying he can't be #1..you are all outta your mind. He's done it before and he can do it again. Especially since he's an even better goalie now. How is Osgood a better goalie now than he was in 1998? Or any of his other years here in Detroit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
interminded 1 Report post Posted March 26, 2007 How is Osgood a better goalie now than he was in 1998? Or any of his other years here in Detroit? Because he said so. And I tend to believe Ozzie when he says something like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted March 26, 2007 Because he said so. And I tend to believe Ozzie when he says something like that. Yep! How is Osgood a better goalie now than he was in 1998? Or any of his other years here in Detroit? I've watched him over the years and a lot when he was on the Isles and Blues. He became a MUCH better goalie. He's more confident, quicker, aggressive, and just all around more solid in net. Ask Ozzie yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Offsides 21 Report post Posted March 26, 2007 How is Osgood a better goalie now than he was in 1998? Or any of his other years here in Detroit? Ozzie is like a fine wine...that doesn't age, but only gets better :!: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted March 26, 2007 Ozzie is like a fine wine...that doesn't age, but only gets better :!: Quote of the year #2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viperar 16 Report post Posted March 26, 2007 I know I'm a little late in stating this, but you know who I think needs to go? Its the people that start these types of threads when the Wings are in the midst of a losing streak, and then say nothing of the sort when they're winning. well i know there are plenty of complainers in here, but i think this subject is set in stone at this point cause we're gonna have to drop someone to make cap space, and make moves during the offseason...i get what youre clawing at though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FinRedWing 172 Report post Posted March 27, 2007 (edited) Just for clarification... After this season Samulesson has 2 years left on his contract. He signed a multi-year extension at the tail end of last season for 3 years. Unless the Wings buy him out, which will never happpen, he will be a Red Wing for another 2 years. Just thought I'd get that out there for everyone who expects him gone after this season, which will not be the case. Come on now! Williams had a contract with the Wings,Ozolinsh w/ NYR etc. etc. Having a contract doesn't mean that he'd automatically play for the Wings that long. Trades happen. And if a player is underachieving,he could always be placed on waivers too. Quit shattering people's delusions Since when did signed contracts or no trade clauses matter to anyone on this site? See above. Edited March 27, 2007 by FinRedWing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted March 27, 2007 Just for clarification... After this season Samulesson has 2 years left on his contract. He signed a multi-year extension at the tail end of last season for 3 years. Unless the Wings buy him out, which will never happpen, he will be a Red Wing for another 2 years. Just thought I'd get that out there for everyone who expects him gone after this season, which will not be the case. Worst news I’ve heard for some time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted March 27, 2007 Come on now! Williams had a contract with the Wings,Ozolinsh w/ NYR etc. etc. Having a contract doesn't mean that he'd automatically play for the Wings that long. Trades happen. And if a player is underachieving,he could always be placed on waivers too. Most likely situation tells me he won't be moved. Ask Ozzie yourself. Care to introduce me? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
