Post-Game 3: Flames 3, Red Wings 2 (4/17)

[Viperar 16]

I assume your talking about tangstoiggy, who IMO is a f*cking moron.

Am I right?

bingo

[rick zombo 3,739]

Booing Bertuzzi was lots of fun, especially considering how useless he was out there. Mayou gube your worst player on the ice besides Lang.

Mangled english aside Bertuzzi played a better game than several Flames.

Edited April 18, 2007 by rick zombo

[Guest Agalloch]

I see Flames fans are getting cocky after winning one game. Good to see.

[HockeyCrazy3033 168]

What can you say? It was one of the worst games the Wings have played this season. Cleary and Draper were great, but the rest of the team was terrible. Bertuzzi was alright too, but needs to be more physical.

-Zetterberg was terrible. I can't believe I just said that, but it's the truth, and there's no way anyone can defend him for the game he played.

-Hasek was also very bad. The goal by Iginla was extremely weak. Some people would probably blame Lidstrom for the goal, but I don't see how you can.

-Danny Markov. No more bad penalties, please.

-The power play is awful.

I'm not even going to continue, because it was an awful game by the Wings. Cleary was amazing, and I don't think there's any doubt he's been the best player on the ice for every game so far in this series. I don't know what happened in the game, but all our best players decided to be terrible. Hopefully it doesn't happen next game.

It'd be nice if Zetterberg did something. He should be in game shape by now.

EDIT: I've also always been one to support Robert Lang, simply because he produces when it counts. Obviously, he has no interest in doing that anymore, either. He's amazingly bad now, and I don't know why. I can't wait to see him off the team. If Babcock would actually use his rookies, Filppula would be the second line center, but he's obviously too dumb to demote Lang.

Terrible? One of the worst games of the season? I think that is just a tad overboard.

I actually think the Wings played pretty darn good..especially for it being a road game. They obviously played nowhere near they did in games 1 & 2 but they were by no means awful, and they were not extremely outplayed by the Flames. A couple mistakes here and there, and a few bad penalties is what cost them.

I agree about Lidstrom, Hank, and Hasek. They all had really bad games. Those are probably the three most important guys on our team, and when you have all three of them having a bad game..it's not going to equal a win. That being said, we all know that Dom has a great tendency to bounce back quickly and play the game of his life following a loss in which he though he could of played much better. As for Lidstrom, it's like a once in a liftetime thing. LOL he'll be perfectly fine. Hank will get it going. He just needs to shake the rust off. It's not as easy as 1,2,3 when you've been out for 6 weeks.

Also, *not you* but lots on here including Flame fans need to lay the heck off a Bertuzzi. The guy just came back from a CONCUSSION. Do you expect him to be 100% out there right away? Give the guy a freaking break. Those saying he was invisible is pretty laughable. He played a pretty decent game, and to me that's pretty damn good considering it takes awhile coming back from the injuries he's had all season. Watch out tomorrow..that's all I gotta say.

Edited April 18, 2007 by HockeyCrazy3033

[Guest Agalloch]

Terrible? One of the worst games of the season? I think that is just a tad overboard.

I actually think the Wings played pretty darn good..especially for it being a road game. They obviously played nowhere near they did in games 1 & 2 but they were by no means awful, and they were not extremely outplayed by the Flames. A couple mistakes here and there, and a few bad penalties is what cost them.

I agree about Lidstrom, Hank, and Hasek. They all had really bad games. Those are probably the three most important guys on our team, and when you have all three of them having a bad game..it's not going to equal a win. That being said, we all know that Dom has a great tendency to bounce back quickly and play the game of his life following a loss in which he though he could of played much better. As for Lidstrom, it's like a once in a liftetime thing. LOL he'll be perfectly fine. Hank will get it going. He just needs to shake the rust off. It's not as easy as 1,2,3 when you've been out for 6 weeks.

Also, *not you* but lots on here including Flame fans need to lay the heck off a Bertuzzi. The guy just came back from a CONCUSSION. Do you expect him to be 100% out there right away? Give the guy a freaking break. Those saying he was invisible is pretty laughable. He played a pretty decent game, and to me that's pretty damn good considering it takes awhile coming back from the injuries he's had all season. Watch out tomorrow..that's all I gotta say.

I don't know why I said one of the worst games of the season, because it definitely wasn't. It was pretty bad though, because if Cleary and Draper hadn't been amazing, the game would've been 3-0 or must worse, since they were great defensively as well.

I have no worries, though. As you said, and as I mentioned earlier, you're not going to find all our best players having a terrible game at the same time. That, coupled with the fact that Calgary has to win one at the Joe, I'm still very comfortable with the series. I think the Wings can take the game tomorrow, too, if Lang and Zetterberg do something -- anything worth noting.

[Chase 0]

People are overreacting a bit here. This WAS NOT one of the worst games we have played all season. In fact, I thought we played pretty well.

Yes, Zetterberg did have a rough game. He completley missed Lidstroms pass, which resulted in Calgarys 2nd goal. He didnt genenerate many scoring chances either. But I am cutting him slack, considering he missed that last 20 game or so of the regular season.

Yes, Hasek could have stopped Iginla's goal. It was still a good shot though. Otherwise, Hasek is not to blame at all.

Overall, game 3 was like night and day for the Flames. They played a very good game, and I thought we weathered the storm well in the first period. We just need to execute better in game 4, and what I mean by that is stop going offsides, and capitalizing on 4 minuite powerplays.

It will be interesting to see if the Wings come back looking for revenge in game 4. I think we will make the necessary adjustments, and we will be ready thursday night to go ahead 3-1 in the series.

[MaynardJKeenan 1]

I assume your talking about tangstoiggy, who IMO is a f*cking moron.

Am I right?

I know i'm going out on a limb here, but i'm guessing tangs is a puckbunny

[Kp-Wings 3]

I know i'm going out on a limb here, but i'm guessing tangs is a puckbunny

...Zing!

[OsGOD 3]

-Zetterberg was terrible. I can't believe I just said that, but it's the truth, and there's no way anyone can defend him for the game he played.

While I don't say he was terrible in the game he sure wasn't Zeta like and hasn't been since returning from the injury. He is not the same confident player he was (you can see glimpses, but it definitely is not here yet) before the 1 month long injury. I have noticed that in games 1 and 2 both (and posted it in the GDT's when I returned from the game) that he doesn't look 100% yet. The announcers are talking all this praise about his efforts (probably where many on here get their info from anyways) but the truth be told... he was flubbing passes and skating VERY sluggishly and making terrible puck handling/passing descisions. I know the camera can only show you one aspect... but the behind the scenes is where you can really tell his "A" game has not been foundyet.. Like I said above, he is playing without much confidence and it shows in some of his decisions and puck handling plays. I am a sure he will bounce back, but the road seems to be long and hard.

Bert looks to have taken a step back after his most recent injury... He was showing signs up the Bert we all loved to hate on the canucks before that frightful Chicago game in April. Now his first game back from the injury is already placing his game one step behind what is was when he played in his first ever game for the wings. I was very excited to see him take the ice yesterday... now in hind sight he really wasn't at all ready.

The team will bounce back from this...We kinda have to!

I know it was a close game and I know the aquisition of Hasek was supposed to secure close games in the win column... but so far he hasn't really been tested all the much and when he was, he looked far from the "elite" goalie he is supposed to be. I am sure he will bounce back, but it is a bit disheartening that the game was so close and 40ft unchallenged, untouched twisted wrister sealed the loss for us.

I am hoping that Hasek does beat himself up over that goal... moreso than the beating he took for the dive. Mostly because the consequence of this blown save has way bigger implimentations.

Once again, the team will bounce back... we kinda have to!

[Guest Agalloch]

Just think about next year. How f***in' good are we going to be when we have a capable second line? No Robert Lang = riots on this board due to happiness. This may not have much to do with this topic, but I must bring it up. It's going to be exciting, that's for sure.

Same thing with the Tigers if they got rid of Fernando "Thug/blows games in extras" Rodney. That won't happen though.

[gameover 0]

What can you say? It was one of the worst games the Wings have played this season. Cleary and Draper were great, but the rest of the team was terrible. Bertuzzi was alright too, but needs to be more physical.

-Zetterberg was terrible. I can't believe I just said that, but it's the truth, and there's no way anyone can defend him for the game he played.

-Hasek was also very bad. The goal by Iginla was extremely weak. Some people would probably blame Lidstrom for the goal, but I don't see how you can.

-Danny Markov. No more bad penalties, please.

-The power play is awful.

I'm not even going to continue, because it was an awful game by the Wings. Cleary was amazing, and I don't think there's any doubt he's been the best player on the ice for every game so far in this series. I don't know what happened in the game, but all our best players decided to be terrible. Hopefully it doesn't happen next game.

It'd be nice if Zetterberg did something. He should be in game shape by now.

EDIT: I've also always been one to support Robert Lang, simply because he produces when it counts. Obviously, he has no interest in doing that anymore, either. He's amazingly bad now, and I don't know why. I can't wait to see him off the team. If Babcock would actually use his rookies, Filppula would be the second line center, but he's obviously too dumb to demote Lang.

A couple points here:

Zetterberg - gameshape? - lmao. That's good thanks. The guy missed 6 weeks of the season. Three games and a couple hard practices dont make up for missing about a 1/4 of the season.

Worst Games Wings have played this season -- you haven't watched too much? A one goal loss on the road in the playoffs? Get a grip on yourself.

Babcock will find a way to get this done...or he'll be looking for a new job.

[Kp-Wings 3]

Same thing with the Tigers if they got rid of Fernando "Thug/blows games in extras" Rodney. That won't happen though.

Unfourtantly no, that won't happen. The Tigers seem commited to him, because he'll occasionally pitch a good game or two. For the most part though he seems more intent about giving the other team a walk by ripping the ball right at the hitter.

Of course, this is another subject for another day.

[Guest Agalloch]

A couple points here:

Zetterberg - gameshape? - lmao. That's good thanks. The guy missed 6 weeks of the season. Three games and a couple hard practices dont make up for missing about a 1/4 of the season.

Worst Games Wings have played this season -- you haven't watched too much? A one goal loss on the road in the playoffs? Get a grip on yourself.

Babcock will find a way to get this done...or he'll be looking for a new job.

So you're saying that you aren't surprised he's been absolutely awful this series? You'd think he'd do something GOOD for the team, but so far, he hasn't.

And see my above post for the second part. Maybe you should read the entire thread before commenting.

To Kp: Yeah, he's vastly overrated. He pitches well when there's no pressure on him at all, such as blowout games. When you stick him in there with the game on the line, though, prepare to cringe. I also wish he'd, you know, wear his hat like a normal person.

Edited April 18, 2007 by Agalloch

[Mudvayneowns91 0]

I find it amusing everytime Bertuzzi was on the ice, they booed him.Being from Colorado/surrounded by Avs fans, the majority I've talked to hate the Flames. So, I ask why in the hell do they act like Bertuzzi did something so terrible to them? I can only think Flames fans are a bit slow

[tazzer82 0]

I find it amusing everytime Bertuzzi was on the ice, they booed him.Being from Colorado/surrounded by Avs fans, the majority I've talked to hate the Flames. So, I ask why in the hell do they act like Bertuzzi did something so terrible to them? I can only think Flames fans are a bit slow

I couldn't figure that part out either, I was telling my girlfriend that they were acting like Bert did that to one of their players. Just a little slow was that bunch last night eh? Though it was funny when Bert steamrolled one of the Flames players, I couldn't stop laughing.

[Chase 0]

Yeah why the Flames fans are booing Bert is beyond me. But whatever.

[HockeyCrazy3033 168]

The ripping on Hank needs to stop. Seriously.

Like I said before, it is going to take awhile for him to be absolutely on his game again. That's pretty fair seeing as how he's been out for 6 weeks with a herniated disk. That is not something you mess around with. A back problem is by far the worst you can have as a hockey player. Give the guy a break. He's an excellent player and we all know what he's capable of doing for the team so just let it be and let him do his thing.

Yeah why the Flames fans are booing Bert is beyond me. But whatever.

I'd imagine it has something to do with him being a former Canuck and well we all know the Nucks and Flames absolutely hate each other.

[ZatasGirl40 0]

You people need to lay off Hank. He's doing the best he can ok? I'm sure once the games get rolling on he'll start puting points up.

[Mudvayneowns91 0]

The ripping on Hank needs to stop. Seriously.

I'd imagine it has something to do with him being a former Canuck and well we all know the Nucks and Flames absolutely hate each other.

I thought that, but do they really boo every player that has been in a Cancuck jersey? Or for that matter, do they really boo at will to any Avs, Wild. Canuck or Oiler ?

(edit: forogt Oilers)

Edited April 18, 2007 by Mudvayneowns91

[Turretin 0]

If I could change the tone of this thread for a moment:

Wings up 2-1

Known playoff performers: Draps, Hank, Lids, Hasek, Chelios, Holmstrom...

Now, it is looking like we can add Dats, Flip, and Cleary to that list.

Also, anyone who thinks this "Babcock experience" has failed, is out of their mind. No question that the Wings have less talent than in the past, and are working harder to achieve the same goals. Their new versatility in playing styles already has paid off, and if you give the guy some more time, probably will continue to pay off in the future.

[arnoldbuck 0]

I thought that, but do they really boo every player that has been in a Cancuck jersey? Or for that matter, do they really boo at will to any Avs, Wild. Canuck or Oiler ?

(edit: forogt Oilers)

No ... just the ones who were damn good and punished you. Same deal with Crosby gettin' that taunts from Ottawa. It is because they know how damn good he is and what he is capable of.

[Jiggy_12 0]

Mangled english aside Bertuzzi played a better game than several Flames.

Sorry about that. My new keyboard has a mind of its own, and for whatever reason I can't seem to edit my posts.

But to the point, no he didn't. He was terrible, slow, and useless. Okay...I just described a couple Flames I guess. But we weren't the ones trumpeting Bertuzzi. He did exactly what I knew he would.

[Mudvayneowns91 0]

No ... just the ones who were damn good and punished you. Same deal with Crosby gettin' that taunts from Ottawa. It is because they know how damn good he is and what he is capable of.

I've never heard them boo a player like Joe Sakic or Naslund. I mean I know Joe doesn't have the hitting that Bert has, but they still "punish" in the sense of scoring. Don't you think a lot has to do with the incident with Bert and Moore is al I'm saying

[Jiggy_12 0]

No ... just the ones who were damn good and punished you. Same deal with Crosby gettin' that taunts from Ottawa. It is because they know how damn good he is and what he is capable of.

LMAO....you think thats why he gets the boo's?

Bertuzzi is a hockey villian. He has never played the Flames particularily well, he gets boo'd because of his past.

Fair or not, thats the reason.

[arnoldbuck 0]

I've never heard them boo a player like Joe Sakic or Naslund. I mean I know Joe doesn't have the hitting that Bert has, but they still "punish" in the sense of scoring. Don't you think a lot has to do with the incident with Bert and Moore is al I'm saying

Totally it does. But peoples picking and choosing who to boo varies team to team and player to player. It is hard for anyone to boo Sakic. He is just class act. Different players play with fans emotions in different ways. When Bert was with the Nucks, he was a devastating force and could single handedly turn the tide of a game. (as can others) But bert has the othe stuff about him which makes him an obvious target.

Edited April 18, 2007 by arnoldbuck