Wings fans acting like babies

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

Many people figured Mclennan would get 3 to 5 game suspension. Well, he got 5 games. The slash was to the midsection, not the face like Simon's so he probably shouldn't have gotten any more than that. IMO, that's a fair suspension. The league, as wrong as it is simply doesn't suspend people for their actions, it suspends them sort of for their actions but moreso for the resulting injury to the player. Franzen is fine. Mclennan is gone. Done and done, move on.

Playfair gets fined. Great! Coach should get fined for not keeping his team under control. No complaints there.

Flames get fined 100K. Even Greater! Can't complain about that.

Now back to the crying game. Iggy didn't get suspended. Oh, boo freaking hoo. What were you going to suspend him for? Cross checking Matty? If so, we could have 75 suspension this series alone for cross checks. Suspend him for butt ending Matty? Okay, show me a definitive replay of him butt ending Matt. It doesn't exist because it didn't happen. He jabbed Matty in the side, big deal. Stop crying and being freaking babies about it.

Langkow doesn't get suspended. Ehhh, i'm sort of iffy on that one. One part of me doesn't like it because it was a sucker punch and should be a suspendable offense, plus Lebs is gone for a game. Another part of me has seen all the scrums in this series alone and seen about 40 punches to the head or face by players on both teams and nobody has been suspended. Look, if they weren't going to suspend Byron Ritchie when he flew into the pile throwing a bareknuckle, haymaking right hand at Cleary who was down on the ice with Stuart on top of him, then they aren't likely to suspend anybody for a punch like that. If the punch isn't flagrantly obvious like Tootoo on Robidas or Bertuzzi on Moore, then they aren't going to call suspensions for it. The league has no history of suspended players that i'm aware of for a punch like the one Langkow threw.

Calgary got a lot of discipline handed their way as they should have. But holey crap are the sad sack tears flowing and the homerism in full swing this morning. IMO, the league got it right. They punished the obvious (McLennan), they fined the Coach and organization and they let the rest go as it was hardly suspendable (Langkow is so borderline).

We need to move on and quit acting like a bunch of ******* because Iggy didn't get 5 games and Langkow didn't get 10 games. What on Earth would ever make anyone who has watched their fair share of hockey think that either of these guys was ever going to get suspended?

forgive me, i didn't get any action last night from the old lady, couple that with all the whining on here today and I guess I just had to vent.

please feel free to call me an asshat for calling you guys (you know who you are) a bunch of whiny homers.

[cgyfireman 0]

I agree....we've got a game to play...the Dome's gonna be rocking tonight...can't wait.

You know it's the playoffs when there's this much emotion...that's what it's all about.

[esteef 2,679]

Langkow doesn't get suspended. Ehhh, i'm sort of iffy on that one. One part of me doesn't like it because it was a sucker punch and should be a suspendable offense, plus Lebs is gone for a game.

I'm fine with all of it except Langfag not getting anything. Maybe the refs didn't see it, but the league sure as hell did, and did nothing. 1 game would've been enough for me.

peace,

esteef

[HockeyCrazy3033 168]

Most of us are pissed because of Langkow. FINE we can understand that Iginla maybe doesn't deserve a suspension, but Daymond sure as hell does.That's why we are pissed. Suspending the punk Jamie, while it needed to be served, doesn't mean a damn thing because he's useless anyways. Langkow needs to be out, period. Complete BS what he did to Lebda, and any fan of any team in the league would agree if that was their player being sucker punched, and then being held around the neck after to further hurt him some more.

Edited April 22, 2007 by HockeyCrazy3033

[Yzerfan1999 81]

Many people figured Mclennan would get 3 to 5 game suspension. Well, he got 5 games. The slash was to the midsection, not the face like Simon's so he probably shouldn't have gotten any more than that. IMO, that's a fair suspension. The league, as wrong as it is simply doesn't suspend people for their actions, it suspends them sort of for their actions but moreso for the resulting injury to the player. Franzen is fine. Mclennan is gone. Done and done, move on.

Playfair gets fined. Great! Coach should get fined for not keeping his team under control. No complaints there.

Flames get fined 100K. Even Greater! Can't complain about that.

Now back to the crying game. Iggy didn't get suspended. Oh, boo freaking hoo. What were you going to suspend him for? Cross checking Matty? If so, we could have 75 suspension this series alone for cross checks. Suspend him for butt ending Matty? Okay, show me a definitive replay of him butt ending Matt. It doesn't exist because it didn't happen. He jabbed Matty in the side, big deal. Stop crying and being freaking babies about it.

Langkow doesn't get suspended. Ehhh, i'm sort of iffy on that one. One part of me doesn't like it because it was a sucker punch and should be a suspendable offense, plus Lebs is gone for a game. Another part of me has seen all the scrums in this series alone and seen about 40 punches to the head or face by players on both teams and nobody has been suspended. Look, if they weren't going to suspend Byron Ritchie when he flew into the pile throwing a bareknuckle, haymaking right hand at Cleary who was down on the ice with Stuart on top of him, then they aren't likely to suspend anybody for a punch like that. If the punch isn't flagrantly obvious like Tootoo on Robidas or Bertuzzi on Moore, then they aren't going to call suspensions for it. The league has no history of suspended players that i'm aware of for a punch like the one Langkow threw.

Calgary got a lot of discipline handed their way as they should have. But holey crap are the sad sack tears flowing and the homerism in full swing this morning. IMO, the league got it right. They punished the obvious (McLennan), they fined the Coach and organization and they let the rest go as it was hardly suspendable (Langkow is so borderline).

We need to move on and quit acting like a bunch of ******* because Iggy didn't get 5 games and Langkow didn't get 10 games. What on Earth would ever make anyone who has watched their fair share of hockey think that either of these guys was ever going to get suspended?

forgive me, i didn't get any action last night from the old lady, couple that with all the whining on here today and I guess I just had to vent.

please feel free to call me an asshat for calling you guys (you know who you are) a bunch of whiny homers.

want to see whining? go over to calgarypuck.com . According to them, every wings player who throws a check is intending to injure and should get 20 games. Its ludicrous over there.

I would have given McLennan a couple games, and i would have given Langkow a single game. Iginla got his punishment in the form of PIM's and embarrassment, no suspension needed, not even close.

Thats how i see it.

[rivieraillusions 0]

Many people figured Mclennan would get 3 to 5 game suspension. Well, he got 5 games. The slash was to the midsection, not the face like Simon's so he probably shouldn't have gotten any more than that. IMO, that's a fair suspension. The league, as wrong as it is simply doesn't suspend people for their actions, it suspends them sort of for their actions but moreso for the resulting injury to the player. Franzen is fine. Mclennan is gone. Done and done, move on.

Playfair gets fined. Great! Coach should get fined for not keeping his team under control. No complaints there.

Flames get fined 100K. Even Greater! Can't complain about that.

Now back to the crying game. Iggy didn't get suspended. Oh, boo freaking hoo. What were you going to suspend him for? Cross checking Matty? If so, we could have 75 suspension this series alone for cross checks. Suspend him for butt ending Matty? Okay, show me a definitive replay of him butt ending Matt. It doesn't exist because it didn't happen. He jabbed Matty in the side, big deal. Stop crying and being freaking babies about it.

Langkow doesn't get suspended. Ehhh, i'm sort of iffy on that one. One part of me doesn't like it because it was a sucker punch and should be a suspendable offense, plus Lebs is gone for a game. Another part of me has seen all the scrums in this series alone and seen about 40 punches to the head or face by players on both teams and nobody has been suspended. Look, if they weren't going to suspend Byron Ritchie when he flew into the pile throwing a bareknuckle, haymaking right hand at Cleary who was down on the ice with Stuart on top of him, then they aren't likely to suspend anybody for a punch like that. If the punch isn't flagrantly obvious like Tootoo on Robidas or Bertuzzi on Moore, then they aren't going to call suspensions for it. The league has no history of suspended players that i'm aware of for a punch like the one Langkow threw.

Calgary got a lot of discipline handed their way as they should have. But holey crap are the sad sack tears flowing and the homerism in full swing this morning. IMO, the league got it right. They punished the obvious (McLennan), they fined the Coach and organization and they let the rest go as it was hardly suspendable (Langkow is so borderline).

We need to move on and quit acting like a bunch of ******* because Iggy didn't get 5 games and Langkow didn't get 10 games. What on Earth would ever make anyone who has watched their fair share of hockey think that either of these guys was ever going to get suspended?

forgive me, i didn't get any action last night from the old lady, couple that with all the whining on here today and I guess I just had to vent.

please feel free to call me an asshat for calling you guys (you know who you are) a bunch of whiny homers.

Actually, I'm quite glad the latter two douchebags didn't get suspended because I want to see the look on their faces when they get their asses handed to them tonight. GO WINGS.

[YoungGuns1340 1]

Can the mods change this thread title to "Red Wings fan acting like Calgary fans"???

I havent heard anyone say anything about wanting Iginla to get 5 or Langkow to get 10, but to say that complaining about Langkow getting NOTHING is "acting like a baby" is ridiculous. Iginla was the one leading his team into pathetic antics at the end, but he shouldnt have gotten a suspension. Langkow shouldve gotten a game. And it wasnt borderlin, either.

[Guest Crymson]

Many people figured Mclennan would get 3 to 5 game suspension. Well, he got 5 games. The slash was to the midsection, not the face like Simon's so he probably shouldn't have gotten any more than that. IMO, that's a fair suspension. The league, as wrong as it is simply doesn't suspend people for their actions, it suspends them sort of for their actions but moreso for the resulting injury to the player. Franzen is fine. Mclennan is gone. Done and done, move on.

Playfair gets fined. Great! Coach should get fined for not keeping his team under control. No complaints there.

Flames get fined 100K. Even Greater! Can't complain about that.

Now back to the crying game. Iggy didn't get suspended. Oh, boo freaking hoo. What were you going to suspend him for? Cross checking Matty? If so, we could have 75 suspension this series alone for cross checks. Suspend him for butt ending Matty? Okay, show me a definitive replay of him butt ending Matt. It doesn't exist because it didn't happen. He jabbed Matty in the side, big deal. Stop crying and being freaking babies about it.

Langkow doesn't get suspended. Ehhh, i'm sort of iffy on that one. One part of me doesn't like it because it was a sucker punch and should be a suspendable offense, plus Lebs is gone for a game. Another part of me has seen all the scrums in this series alone and seen about 40 punches to the head or face by players on both teams and nobody has been suspended. Look, if they weren't going to suspend Byron Ritchie when he flew into the pile throwing a bareknuckle, haymaking right hand at Cleary who was down on the ice with Stuart on top of him, then they aren't likely to suspend anybody for a punch like that. If the punch isn't flagrantly obvious like Tootoo on Robidas or Bertuzzi on Moore, then they aren't going to call suspensions for it. The league has no history of suspended players that i'm aware of for a punch like the one Langkow threw.

Calgary got a lot of discipline handed their way as they should have. But holey crap are the sad sack tears flowing and the homerism in full swing this morning. IMO, the league got it right. They punished the obvious (McLennan), they fined the Coach and organization and they let the rest go as it was hardly suspendable (Langkow is so borderline).

We need to move on and quit acting like a bunch of ******* because Iggy didn't get 5 games and Langkow didn't get 10 games. What on Earth would ever make anyone who has watched their fair share of hockey think that either of these guys was ever going to get suspended?

forgive me, i didn't get any action last night from the old lady, couple that with all the whining on here today and I guess I just had to vent.

please feel free to call me an asshat for calling you guys (you know who you are) a bunch of whiny homers.

I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you. What'd you say?

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

I'm fine with all of it except Langfag not getting anything. Maybe the refs didn't see it, but the league sure as hell did, and did nothing. 1 game would've been enough for me.

peace,

esteef

hey esteef, i'm curious how it works. I know with Mclennan he got a match penalty so its a definite review by the league. but what about a complete non-call. As I recall Langkow didn't even get a penalty. Would that them mean the Wings would have to protest or send video to the league like Bowman used to do? I wonder if there's an automatic review or anything for something like that. And yeah, if he got a game i wouldn't mind either as I thought that was sort of an iffy call one way or the other. 1 game or no game I guess somebody will always be pissed on either side of that debate.

[Kp-Wings 3]

I agree with every point, except Langkow. He didn't get s*** on the play. No penalty, no suspension, no fine. Nothing! At the very least he should have gotten penalized from the play.

Iginla should not have been suspended. Look back on my post history and you will see that I've said this all along. Iginla really did nothing too bad on the play at all. If Schneider was hurt on the play, then I'd feel different. But it really didn't have a big effect on anything.

I agree with most of your points though. Some of us are being homers to an extreme. But the Langkow incident should have been at least penalized on the play. That's what I'm really made about, is the fact that he got away with nothing.

[Bob_Essensa 0]

Most of us are pissed because of Langkow. FINE we can understand that Iginla maybe doesn't deserve a suspension, but Daymond sure as hell does.That's why we are pissed. Suspending the punk Jamie, while it needed to be served, doesn't mean a damn thing because he's useless anyways. Langkow needs to be out, period. Complete BS what he did to Lebda, and any fan of any team in the league would agree if that as their player being sucker punched and then being held around the neck after to further hurt him.

You said it perfectly.No need for my post now.

[CloudConnected 0]

Yeah, I'm a little miffed at no Langkow suspension, just because of the concussive aftermath. If Lebda didn't get hurt, then I could see this outcome. But the fact that the cheapshot knocked out our speediest defenseman for a game makes me a little irked about that ruling.

[Andy Pred 48 337]

And these actions by the Flames is why we should have a Boogaard type

player sitting on the bench to give the cheap shot ass'es a slap when they do go over the mark. If we had then all these new threads wouldn't even be on here to whine in the first place.

[akustyk 84]

gotta agree with you but...

suspension to Noodles who is utterly insignificant to the series and was only used by Playdirty as a tool is BS. it only displays how the league is unprepared to handle such matters.

fine will do nothing to Flames. they'll pee on that. throwing out McLennan does not affect the series in any way as long as we don't kill Kipper. now cowarding and letting the Flames away with the s*** they've been doing is a message from Campbell that this is tolerated and that they are to continue this. and we can expect a lot of s*** in tonight's Game 6.

truth being said, the suspension is coherent to what NHL has done before and we can't expect more (even more in playoffs where such calls should be extremely analyzed).

whatever. I want Wings to start focused and play their game, forgetting about yesterday. kick their asses and send them golfing, which is all this bunch of sissies deserve

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

want to see whining? go over to calgarypuck.com . According to them, every wings player who throws a check is intending to injure and should get 20 games. Its ludicrous over there.

I would have given McLennan a couple games, and i would have given Langkow a single game. Iginla got his punishment in the form of PIM's and embarrassment, no suspension needed, not even close.

Thats how i see it.

i agree with you. Flames fans are being ridiculous with the accusations of us trying to head hunt their guys and running kipper. What can you do? I've just seen the Langkow thing way too many times to expect he was ever going to get suspended.

[henrik40 76]

The thing that pisses me off the most is people saying "well that's just playoff hockey". Yeah, you're right but you have to keep your emotions in check. I know every series gets aggressive but yesterday was beyond aggression. If what occurred yesterday was the emotion of playoff hockey, then I am disgusted with the NHL. Swinging your stick and taking numerous cheap shots is not emotion, it's plain stupidity.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

And these actions by the Flames is why we should have a Boogaard type

player sitting on the bench to give the cheap shot ass'es a slap when they do go over the mark. If we had then all these new threads wouldn't even be on here to whine in the first place.

Minny has Boogard and it didn't keep Brad May from punching Johnson's lights out the other night. And what did Boogy do after that? Absolutely nothing. He didn't prevent it from happening and he didn't get any retribution and now Minny is playing golf.

s***, i'd like to have Boogey too but he wouldn't help in the playoffs. We'd just be facing the same kind of s*** Calgary is now with the fines and such.

[Echolalia 2,961]

The main reason why I think Langkow got off the hook was because Detroit never said Lebda is out because of a resulting concussion.

He actually hurt himself from bending his leg against the boards the wrong way, but they tried to walk the 'concussion' line by saying Lebda is out because of headaches. Now you should be able to see where that gets iffy. He got punched, but its pretty clear that he doesn't have a concussion.

With that said, what I'm worried about is a torn acl or something similar.

[Burninator 0]

Good post.

I honestly think that the NBC broadcast has a lot to do with this hysteria. Pete McGuire (sp?) got way too excited. He acted as if Mclennan had chopped Franzen's head off. I thought he was way too hard on Calgary. Calgary was not playing a very good game, but Detroit weren't angles either. The slash to Kipper, Maltby trying to take off Nilson's head with an elbow, Mclennan getting sticked in the face (incidental) by Franzen all were missed by NBC. What Calgary did was worse than Detroit, don't get me wrong, but I don't think that they should get off looking like everything wasn't provoked on some level.

Langkow should have gotten a penalty. The ref's missed it no doubt. But no suspension.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

I agree with every point, except Langkow. He didn't get s*** on the play. No penalty, no suspension, no fine. Nothing! At the very least he should have gotten penalized from the play.

Iginla should not have been suspended. Look back on my post history and you will see that I've said this all along. Iginla really did nothing too bad on the play at all. If Schneider was hurt on the play, then I'd feel different. But it really didn't have a big effect on anything.

I agree with most of your points though. Some of us are being homers to an extreme. But the Langkow incident should have been at least penalized on the play. That's what I'm really made about, is the fact that he got away with nothing.

Langkow definitely should've gotten a roughing minor there. Only explanation has to be the refs didn't see it.

[Wings_Toledo 233]

I have to agree with GST on this one, to a point. I think the actions that the league took were appropriate. I don't think what Iginla did was enough to warrant a suspension, really. And the Lebda hit and the resulting cheap shot by Langkow was really kind of a combination of retaliatory acts. Even though McLennan wasn't going to see any action in this series outside of last night, I think 5 games sends the message that if you lose your composure like that you're going to be punished. We can beat this pack of goons without having to have their best players suspended, so let's just beat them fair and square and move on the next opponent.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you. What'd you say?

you gotta get those wHine corks outta your ears first

[esteef 2,679]

hey esteef, i'm curious how it works. I know with Mclennan he got a match penalty so its a definite review by the league. but what about a complete non-call. As I recall Langkow didn't even get a penalty. Would that them mean the Wings would have to protest or send video to the league like Bowman used to do? I wonder if there's an automatic review or anything for something like that. And yeah, if he got a game i wouldn't mind either as I thought that was sort of an iffy call one way or the other. 1 game or no game I guess somebody will always be pissed on either side of that debate.

I'm not sure exactly if it has to be called or not to be reviewed, but my guess is no. It just puts too much pressure on the refs to catch EVERYTHING. The issue I have is the league puts out at the beginning of the year that they won't tolerate actions such as these at the end of a losing effort, and then some of the offenders get off scott free. Get them all or they just lose credibility to me.

It just makes the league look like a bunch of turds in sweaters.

esteef

[SpankEmRed 1]

The Iraqi Flames are just so pissed that the Wings aren't just rolling over like they pretty much did a few years ago. All this is saying is that it ok to sucker punch someone in the face when a) they're down and b) they're not looking. So be it. Can't wait to see how 'neutral' the Iraqi fans are once the Wings take matters into their own hands... which is now what they are forced to do.

Pretty soon the hockey world will forget all about Bertuzzi and Steve Moore. The Iraqi Flame punks are now a corporate manifestation of everything that is wrong with this sport. So the Iraqi Flames are not only without any integrity, but also without remorse, no matter... they should be shut down completely in just 60 more minutes of ice time. That's retribution enough for me. I say they should have let their useless backup play. THAT would have been fun to watch.

Edited April 22, 2007 by SpankEmRed

[Firehawk 305]

want to see whining? go over to calgarypuck.com . According to them, every wings player who throws a check is intending to injure and should get 20 games. Its ludicrous over there.

I would have given McLennan a couple games, and i would have given Langkow a single game. Iginla got his punishment in the form of PIM's and embarrassment, no suspension needed, not even close.

Thats how i see it.

Yeah i was reading that board and it is laughable. They all think the wings are getting away with murder. HUH? They're letting things go at times on both sides and calling everything at times on both sides. I still am not sure where they get off saying the wings are trying to injuer flames players lol.