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Does everyone want Bert to re-sign?

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I love Bertuzzi and I want him back more then anything this summer. I would be comfortable with the Wings paying him up to $5 mil next season. A healthy Bertuzzi is worth more than $5 mil. If they lock him up to a multi-year deal, I'm getting my Bertuzzi jersey the next day

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Yes. He proved himself in the Anaheim series, and was slowly getting better. Now he just has to get healthy, and stay healthy, and we'll all be good. :cool:

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You can thank OsGod for Bert loving Detroit. When he came back from suspension in his first game here we went down shook his hand and welcomed him back to the NHL. That's gotta count for something (OsGod's idea) :D

:cool: and :clap: Classy move, I'm sure it meant a great deal to him. (wut no roses? corsage? Didn't anyone ever tell OsGod that if he's gonna go out with a new guy for hockey season he should at least bring him chocolates?)

Bert stays, I hope. I'm not as concerned about the back injury issue as perhaps I should be: he had a relatively strong finish to the playoff season despite the injured tailbone, and I just love his attitude and ethic and the strong desire he showed. I think he's got a lot of great hockey miles to go on him, and I can't see us getting anyone near his quality for the price I'm thinking Holland's gonna get him to agree to.

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If we don't keep him, he is going to dominate with another team.... I'd rather have him doing that here..... :cool:

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No thank you. i am not a bertuzzi fan and i dont want him back. i know he was hurt, but he showed absolutely no heart out there. if he was healthy enough to play, then he was healthy enough to give some sort of effort, and he didn't. he was lazier than lang and i don't recall him winning one battle for the puck. spend the money on someone else who gives a s*** and will actually help this team out.

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No thank you. i am not a bertuzzi fan and i dont want him back. i know he was hurt, but he showed absolutely no heart out there. if he was healthy enough to play, then he was healthy enough to give some sort of effort, and he didn't. he was lazier than lang and i don't recall him winning one battle for the puck. spend the money on someone else who gives a s*** and will actually help this team out.

You mean how whenever he had the puck and one or two guys were on him, he'd push them off with one hand and singlehandedly carry the puck from end to end? Or when he'd steal the puck in the corners and do what I just mentioned all over again?

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a healthy Bertuzzi can be the best player in hockey.

If he ever gets his 03/04 form back , he'll be a monster

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Absolutely.

We finally saw Bertuzzi getting better despite his back injury during the middle part of the Duck series.

We all know how much of a pain in the a** he was to play against in the opening round of the 2002 playoffs back in the Vancouver days, we all know what he can bring to the table.

He has some time to get healthy now without any major travel over the next few months, he can re-cooperate in Detroit or back in his home in Kitchener and get better.

We've read that he wants to stay with the Wings, it's a managable distance from his home. Hopefully Bertuzzi and Holland can come towards some mutual agreement for a contract that is somewhat less than the $5M he was roughly making this year.

I'd say a 2/3 year deal around $3M a year might make sense, but I'm no GM so who knows.....

Maybe offer him an incentive laden contract like the Wings did with Hasek this past season? It's kind of a similar scenario. You know what Bertuzzi can bring to the table, much like Hasek this past season, but health is/was in question.

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You mean how whenever he had the puck and one or two guys were on him, he'd push them off with one hand and singlehandedly carry the puck from end to end? Or when he'd steal the puck in the corners and do what I just mentioned all over again?

well, i'm glad we're not exaggerating his play in the playoffs...geez.

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well, i'm glad we're not exaggerating his play in the playoffs...geez.

Did I say that it was the way he played the entire post season? No. Did I say he'd steal the puck constantly? No. I believe I said whenever he had the puck, be it was often or rarely..when he had it he did his thing.

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Man , If only there were no salary cap.

We could sign our 2nd line. It'd be Smyth-Drury-Bertuzzi. That'd be sweet.

But Bert definately has to come back , for like 3 years

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In short, as long as he can be signed for a resonable price. And remember, if we resign him, we lose a first rounder. That's a lot to give up on something you arne't sure about.

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a healthy Bertuzzi can be the best player in hockey.

If he ever gets his 03/04 form back , he'll be a monster

2002/2003 was his best season. Unless you want him to go out there and break some necks, I don't think you want him in his 2003/2004 form.

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2002/2003 was his best season. Unless you want him to go out there and break some necks, I don't think you want him in his 2003/2004 form.

02/03 , Thats what I meant, Thats for catching that , I dont want him breaking any necks. Unless its Claude Lemeuix or Chris Pronger. But even Prongers a strech

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You mean how whenever he had the puck and one or two guys were on him, he'd push them off with one hand and singlehandedly carry the puck from end to end? Or when he'd steal the puck in the corners and do what I just mentioned all over again?

when did this happen? there were a few times when he had the puck and there were two guys on him, but when did he push them away and do anything useful with it? when the puck was in the corner he'd try to tap at it unsuccessfuly with his stick and then back off.

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2002/2003 was his best season. Unless you want him to go out there and break some necks, I don't think you want him in his 2003/2004 form.

Well I always yell, "BREAK HIS HEAD" during fights... he now fits the bill :ph34r:

so yeah :blush:

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No, injured backs never truely heal and players are never 100% after.

However with that said... The promise of what he could bring is tempting.

2 Year incentive heavy contract with the team being able to opt out after one and a player option for a third year would be my offer.

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Did I say that it was the way he played the entire post season? No. Did I say he'd steal the puck constantly? No. I believe I said whenever he had the puck, be it was often or rarely..when he had it he did his thing.

no, "whenever" he had the puck he did not go end to end. that's not what you meant, was it?

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No,injured backs never truely heal and players are never 100% after.

However with that said... The promise of what he could bring is tempting.

2 Year incentive heavy contract with the team being able to opt out after one and a player option for a third year would be my offer.

So what you are saying then is Zeta is also damaged good and should be let go or signed for a heavily reduced paycheck.

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As a spine specialist, I can tell you that he will never be 100% and he will never be able to use his body the way he did in the past. He'll always have great soft hands, but a power forward he will never be. If we sign him, I would use him for trade bait. Not that I have anything against they guy, but he will likely always be the shell of a player that he was.

You can't compare Zets and Bertuzzi. I'm assuming that they both have degenerative disc disease; a disease that results in low back pain from annular tears. This is a non surgical condition. We are currently in the process of pilot studies looking at biologic intradiscal injectates, but surgical intervention doesn't work. Burtuzzi's sugery may have resulted in fibrosis and scarring.

Burtuzzi may have had a herniation, but the herniation can never happen unless the disc starts to degenerate.

I'm guessing on their diagnosis, but a surgically treated back regardless of the condition already has a strike against it.

I'd get rid of him before the rest of the NHL figures it out as well.

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In short, as long as he can be signed for a resonable price. And remember, if we resign him, we lose a first rounder. That's a lot to give up on something you arne't sure about.

The way I understand it, we lose a 2nd rounder if we re-sign Bert.

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as it was stated earlier 85% efficent Bert is better than many of the people we could get on this team.

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my feeling is that many of us like the *idea* of a player like bertuzzi. a big, tough forward with some grit and a nose for the net. my opinion is that bert was that player but no longer is that player.

and i would *not* spend $5mil to find out if i am right.

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