kmis 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2007 (edited) I bet if Alfie ate a baby on the ice, you'd all would complain that Pronger didn't stop it and that Pronger should be suspended. Edited June 5, 2007 by kmis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRockit 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2007 Only thing disappointing about Alfie (or Ottawa) making that cheap shot... was waiting til game 4 to do it. If they want to match the Ducks cheapshot plays, then they should have started it in the first minute of game 1. Ottawa has a lot of cheap shots to make up for in this series. I thought you weren't giving 'ratings' to cheap hockey? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dicksmack 33 Report post Posted June 5, 2007 Apparently the Ducks were rather fired up in the hallway after the second period, and were shouting at the Ottawa guys. You could argue that sparked the Ducks since they were all over the Senators in the third. Dumb, gutless move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jocu 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2007 If he doesn't get a game suspension then there is no way in hell Pronger should have been suspended. Gutless, he could have killed someone doing that. Back in 94-95 in the Conference finals Bernie Nichols of the Devils shot a puck at one of the Rangers at the end of Game 6 and he was suspended. Any number of things can happen when you shoot a puck at somebody and they don't expect it. He fakes a slapper lifts his head and takes a look then fires it right into Scotty. Way to ruin a respectful career Alfie. You're now labeled a skumbag in my book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roberto Who? 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2007 If he doesn't get a game suspension then there is no way in hell Pronger should have been suspended. Gutless, he could have killed someone doing that. Back in 94-95 in the Conference finals Bernie Nichols of the Devils shot a puck at one of the Rangers at the end of Game 6 and he was suspended. Any number of things can happen when you shoot a puck at somebody and they don't expect it. He fakes a slapper lifts his head and takes a look then fires it right into Scotty. Way to ruin a respectful career Alfie. You're now labeled a skumbag in my book. i didnt expect him to do such a thing....your right on with what you said.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRockit 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2007 I bet if Alfie ate a baby on the ice, you'd all would complain that Pronger didn't stop it and that Pronger should be suspended. That would probably be The Best Thing Ever for hockey. A ratings bonanza, a huge hit for our sport. Kinda like the Harding Hit on Kerrigan's knee did for figure skating in '93-- the rest of the decade was pure media gravy and a bonafide bonanza for both amateur and pro FS. During season, it was harder to NOT find a FS event on a given weekend. Guess what? It was equally as hard to NOT find a hockey game on telly then, too. Guess sports on ice are iced. Bad pun sadly not intended. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRockit 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2007 (edited) i didnt expect him to do such a thing....your right on with what you said.... RobO, I would expect you to not know much about the Sens-- after all, your team has not played them. (this is a REALLY good reason to watch every hockey game you can: never know who One's Team will be facing) I dunno if you have Central Ice available out in SoCal? I assume you do? Get it, if you can, for the next season. I'm just completely amazed at this sudden turnaround by Wingsfans, "ooooo, Sens are dirrty!" Ehmmm, I hate to say I told you so, but I TOLD YOU SO before the Sens even beat out the Sabres. I'll drag up old posts if you want me to (I'm so suree you don't, heh). SENS ARE physical, and don't shy from the dirty. They've just met a team that is far MORE physical and far more accomplished at The Cheap Shot than they are. And Murray is a laugh and a half-- "hypocrisy, wherefore art thou?" And Burke sucks. And I am SO happy to be a Wing fan. Yes, we may not have made the SCF this year, but we made it out of this quagmire of bad officiating, worse play, with pride intact and with heads high. No sour grapes, here. Just grapefulness.* *please blame the pun-age on Lou_Siffer, or any of the other punny eejits that give me odd ideas) Edited June 5, 2007 by RedRockit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted June 5, 2007 If he doesn't get a game suspension then there is no way in hell Pronger should have been suspended. Gutless, he could have killed someone doing that. Back in 94-95 in the Conference finals Bernie Nichols of the Devils shot a puck at one of the Rangers at the end of Game 6 and he was suspended. Any number of things can happen when you shoot a puck at somebody and they don't expect it. He fakes a slapper lifts his head and takes a look then fires it right into Scotty. Way to ruin a respectful career Alfie. You're now labeled a skumbag in my book. This post reminds me of an article done by sensationalist media who never cover the NHL. I'll reiterate -- even if, we'll say, Alfredsson shot the puck on purpose at Niedermayer (I still have my doubts), the game was still in play, it wasn't after a whistle, and here's a nifty thought.. it didn't hurt him. He never so much as flinched. The issue with Alfredsson is, if you assume his intentions were heinous, disrespectful at best -- not a physical cheap shot that can end careers. To even put these incidents in the same sentence shows a lack of objectivity to an Nth degree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted June 5, 2007 Alright folks, after hearing all this Ducks are dirty blah blah, how bout those Senators? Alfredsson fires the puck at Niedermayer, can you imagine if a Duck had done this? Also another Senator threw a blind glove on suckerpunch in the scrum. Lets hear some Ottawa bashing now, dont be hypocritical! It sure does suck. Now both teams have done bad things. What's your point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scotzman 29 Report post Posted June 5, 2007 I have no idea why in the world Alfie did that. The fact is, he did it. He deliberately shot that puck at Scotty Nieds... what an idiotic play. All that being said, who cares? The series is over. The Ducks just have the Mojo and the better team... Goodnight Sens. By the way, Cherry was great in the 2nd intermission on NBC... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRockit 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2007 It sure does suck. Now both teams have done bad things. What's your point? I can't speak for Lou's point, but I'll sure speak for what I believe we're being told: the NO. 1 & 2 seeds in the playoffs have been defeated by obstructionistic teams. Regular season officating has gone by-the-by... by the bye. Make of that what you will... I'm worried it bodes ill for next post-season-- I mean, should the Wings spend their extra cap dollars on BigBad over SkilledPlaymaker? I dunno, but I surely hope KH can sort this one out. I do trust him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Izzy24 44 Report post Posted June 5, 2007 Yeah, f*** Alfredsson, in the third period he took a shot that almost hit Giguere!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted June 5, 2007 What he did was awful, and he should get punished for it. BUT that doesn't make the Sens a disgrace. The Ducks are a dirty, cheap shot team and everyone knows it. What Daniel did, while awful..doesn't add up to all the crap the Ducks have pulled. I'm still rooting for the Sens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wild Wing 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2007 ^Just out of curiosity, there has been only one defined "cheap shot" in this series, and that would be Chris Pronger's. Eliminate that one instance in this round, and tell me the Ducks are a "dirty team." I don't judge Ottawa by Alfie and Neil, Minnesota by Boogaard, the Kings by...well the Kings suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted June 5, 2007 (edited) ^Just out of curiosity, there has been only one defined "cheap shot" in this series, and that would be Chris Pronger's. Eliminate that one instance in this round, and tell me the Ducks are a "dirty team." I don't judge Ottawa by Alfie and Neil, Minnesota by Boogaard, the Kings by...well the Kings suck. Well I'm talking about the entire playoffs. Not just this round, and hell..even the season for that matter. The Ducks are known to be a team full of goons, and are known for their dirty style of play. Surely not all of them..but Pronger isn't the only bad guy on that team. They get away with a lot of crap and it irks me to no end. I'm not saying the Sens are innoent or tthe most classy team in the league either, but they blow the Ducks outta the water on that. They are a greatly skilled hockey club that has everything going for them, and they don't have to resort to cheap shots, and dirty plays when down or out. Edited June 5, 2007 by HockeyCrazy3033 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRockit 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2007 Well I'm talking about the entire playoffs. Not just this round, and hell..even the season for that matter. The Ducks are known to be a team full of goons, and are known for their dirty style of play. Surely not all of them..but Pronger isn't the only bad guy on that team. They get away with a lot of crap and it irks me to no end. I'm not saying the Sens are innoent or tthe most classy team in the league either, but they blow the Ducks outta the water on that. They are a greatly skilled hockey club that has everything going for them, and they don't have to resort to cheap shots, and dirty plays when down or out. Just in case you missed this on the Sens Road to the Cup: Alfy boards Tallinder Neil Spanish Archer And the latest Top Two Hits from Neil: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXzx9Qicdwg They don't blow the Ducks outta the water at anything: they are only a bit less successful at being sleazy than the Ducks, and have a bit less size and a lot less depth. I DO admire the Sens for getting there, but they dirtied up a team at least as classy and skilled as the Wings on their way. Please make no mistake: these are the SENS, not the SAINTS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted June 5, 2007 (edited) Just in case you missed this on the Sens Road to the Cup: Alfy boards Tallinder Neil Spanish Archer And the latest Top Two Hits from Neil: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXzx9Qicdwg They don't blow the Ducks outta the water at anything: they are only a bit less successful at being sleazy than the Ducks, and have a bit less size and a lot less depth. I DO admire the Sens for getting there, but they dirtied up a team at least as classy and skilled as the Wings on their way. Please make no mistake: these are the SENS, not the SAINTS. I could of sworn I said the Sens weren't innocent either? But IMO yeah, they do blow the Ducks outta the water when it ultimately comes down to who has more class, in which Anaheim has none. Btw, I love Drury and he's one of my faves, but Neil's hit was in no way a dirty one. Late..yeah..dirty? No. He skated by and pushed/ shoved him. That was all. The reason he got hurt was because his head hit the ice. Edited June 5, 2007 by HockeyCrazy3033 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRockit 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2007 I could of sworn I said the Sens weren't innocent either? But IMO yeah, they do blow the Ducks outta the water when it ultimately comes down to who has more class, in which Anaheim has none. Btw, I love Drury and he's one of my faves, but Neil's hit was in no way a dirty one. Late..yeah..dirty? No. He skated by and pushed/ shoved him. That was all. The reason he got hurt was because his head hit the ice. I'm sorry, I know you said the Sens weren't innocent, and I'm not trying to give you grief. It's not you or your posts, I'm just so frustrated by all the sudden, and to my mind, undue, Sens-timent here. Even though I'm strongly rooting Sens myself, I just think that some people (again, not you, HC) are putting the Sens up on some kind of Winglike pedestal, and they SO don't belong to be spoken of in the same breath as the Wings this year. It's just... listen, you have NO idea how much I have heard/seen from my SabreFriend re the Sens. She is near robotic in her ability to pick up everything that goes on on the ice (she can see goalie interference at the same time a X check is going on halfway across the ice-- part zebra, I think), and I've watched most of the Sens Sabres games throughout the season with her (saw the Brawl at her house), and really learned just who they are as a team and about their play. Learned quite a bit about their tendencies towards the cheap dirty play. You know the first two games in this series, the ones the Ducks won? Think of the Sens as the bully on the block that just met the bigger bully on the next block. Then think of Brian Murray whinging about the officating, and going to Big Daddy Scotty "because they're picking on us".... Pot. Kettle. Black. (although it did give me my first true grin about hockey since the Wings were eliminated) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bullocks Report post Posted June 5, 2007 (edited) Just in case you missed this on the Sens Road to the Cup: Alfy boards Tallinder Neil Spanish Archer And the latest Top Two Hits from Neil: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXzx9Qicdwg They don't blow the Ducks outta the water at anything: they are only a bit less successful at being sleazy than the Ducks, and have a bit less size and a lot less depth. I DO admire the Sens for getting there, but they dirtied up a team at least as classy and skilled as the Wings on their way. Please make no mistake: these are the SENS, not the SAINTS. you can actually argue that the sens have more depth then anaheim...actually, no need to argue, the sens do have more depth then anaheim. but the ducks do get the job done, my hats off to them. sure when we faced them, i hated those dicks lol and especially pronger...but w.e, u have to admire them because baring a miracle they will be the stanley cup champs. their the only team that got the job done. Edited June 5, 2007 by bullocks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zetter is Better 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2007 Trust me, the Sens are not a dirty team. They were frustrated over all the interference that wasn't being called. Right at the start of the game that ***** bag Beauchemin slashes Neil like a pansy and the stuff got dirttier from their. I was at the game there were a lot of cheap shots by the Ducks that was probably not seen on T.V. The Ducks are a dirty team, I thought you knew that after our series with them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted June 5, 2007 Give me a break with this stupid thread. It was an average shot that hit Scott square in the armour. It was hardly close to "killing" or "badly hurting" someone. Talk about exageration. Unlike Pronger's elbow. I'd like to point out that McAmmond didn't play last night. But if this is what Duck fans need to justify their own teams ******-ness then fine. But at least frame it that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TEX-WING 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2007 Yeah, f*** Alfredsson, in the third period he took a shot that almost hit Giguere!!! :rotflmao: theres no need for that that kind stuff in the game, esp with the small old school pads Gigi wears Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted June 5, 2007 Aye, alfi was just testin' the waters t' see just how much his side o' the game can get away with without gettin' a penalty. Ye'll ne'er get me buried booty! Ahoy, me would gather that alfi had better aim than hittin' him in the thigh area... In the face would have been much more appropriate for a cheap shot... especially after scullywag Prongers head huntin'. Gar, Where can I find a bottle o'rum? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JayUp88 1 Report post Posted June 5, 2007 Well after that little stunt i don't like him anymore. but i still would rather see the sens win, i like ray and danny and would love to see them with the cup Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CAredwingsfan91 28 Report post Posted June 5, 2007 i didn't see Alfie do ANYTHING to niederdouchebag Share this post Link to post Share on other sites